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Have to do this now so many times a week it would boggle your mind so I've learned about it ninety three you get ninety three percent blood oxygen all crisis time you got covert nineteen patients coming in with blood oxygen levels in the seventies they should be dead they should be gasping for air their helmets should be replacing their brain should be shut down and they're not they're able to walk in there ambulatory that's making critical care doctors suspected that blood levels of oxygen which for decades have driven decisions about breathing support for patients with pneumonia and acute respiratory distress might be misleading them about how to care for people with covert nineteen a particular more and more doctors are concerned about the use of intimation and mechanical ventilators they argue that more patience could receive simple learnt noninvasive respiratory support such as the breathing masks used in sleep apnea in a C. pap machines at least to start with and maybe for the duration of the C. pap machine on these people put a mask over her mouth over over the nose and forced air into their mouth and nose you don't have to hook up to a ventilator that reads for them we just do it show Han Joppa internal medicine physician at Boston's Brigham and women's hospital said I think we may indeed be able to support a subset of these patients I think we have to be more nuanced about who we can debate once you intimate somebody it's it's it's tough to get people off metal layers once you put him on there once you want once they forget how to breed once they become accustom to breeding machine doing it for it's tough it's always a big moment of truth when they tell a pen paper to turn a breathing machine off just breed that they panic now none of this means the letters are not necessary or the hospitals are wrong to fear running out but doctors as they learn more about Covance nineteen MA question old dog mom about blood oxygen and the need for ventilators they might be able to substitute simpler and more widely available devices I hear the numbers and oxygen saturation laid below a saturation rate below ninety three percent the normals ninety five to a hundred percent mine's always around ninety eight ninety I sometimes I have a hundred defense one time it was at ninety three in the just to get in touch with him ninety three I'm fine look at me I'm fine number Sir you should be on the road to death no no look at me I'm breathing I'm fine I'm looking right at you number sorry you should be in trouble I'm not in trouble but you get to the seven days I don't even wait for you to talk about it they just they they run you off to the nearest emergency room I can't but people showing up in the seventies on these things and the doctors can't believe it understandably an oxygen saturation rate below old not blood oxygen out of oxygen in your blood stream ninety three below ninety three percent has long been taken as a sign of potential hypoxia and impending organ damage before the coronavirus when the oxygen level dipped below ninety three percent of doctors supported their breathing with noninvasive devices like C. pap N. bi level positive airway pressure ventilators that would be bi pap both work via tube into a face mask but because in some patients with covert nineteen blood oxygen levels fall to hardly ever seen levels into the seventies even lower doctors are incubating them sooner data from China suggested that early innovation would keep coronavirus patient's heart liver and kidneys from failing due to hypoxia this been the whole thing driving decisions about breeding support knock him out put him on a ventilator yeah if they show up below ninety three percent it's panic time but they're showing up at seventy percent are still ambulatory and they're able to breathe it's it's one of the oddities and I can't figure it out now the first batch of evidence his doctors learn more about this disease they're questioning how and how often mechanical ventilators should be used the first batch evidence relates to how often the machines failed to help are you ready you will hear some shocking numbers contrary to the impression that if extremely ill patients with covert nineteen or treated with ventilators they will live and if they are not treated with the letters they will die the reality is far different in the United States study of patients in Seattle only one of the seven patients older than seventy put on a ventilator survived only thirty six percent of those younger than seventy on a ventilator survived in a study published by the journal American medical association on Monday doctors in Italy reported nearly ninety percent of thirteen hundred critically ill patients were intubated and put on a ventilator only eleven percent receive noninvasive ventilation twenty five percent died in the I. C. U. fifty eight percent were still in the ICO sixty percent of been discharged but not being put on a ventilator has a higher survivability rate than people being put on ventilators this is what they can't figure out they're on the means are the way the figuring of tests and studies and so forth going on researchers in a wool hand for whatever it's worth here reported that thirty seven critically ill all covert nineteen patients put on ventilators thirty of the thirty seven died in a month in a US study again the patients in Seattle only one of the seven patients older than seventy on a ventilator survive six died thirty six percent of those younger than seventy survived forty four percent is a fit of about sixty four percent perished in a study published Monday yeah the numbers go to Italy but it's website called stat S. TATT we will link to it at Rush Limbaugh dot com not gonna take a break and we'll get started with you on the phones when we get back Limbaugh.

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