Facebook, Physicist, Sean Parker discussed on This Week in Startups
When you hear the wave of companies that came after you, you were part of this. I, you know, wave of internet companies and Sean Parker says listen, you know, when we created Facebook, or when we were scaling it and Timothy mingka's back this up and a lot of people who've worked there have said like we kind of regret what we did. They they did not pray at the altar of customer service. They prayed at the altar of customer manipulation and engagement at all costs. And they said, listen, we just wanted to take as much of your time as possible, and we just studied every way to do that. And that was down to the psychological level. What are your thoughts on the addiction of Facebook? And how they ran that company in contrast to your philosophy which was ethical moral slow steady customer service driven as opposed to. Let's just take every ounce of attention from these people, and we're seeing the unintended consequences of that you're documenting net with some of some of the people you've donated to our documenting net, which is this is correlating with anxiety. This is correlating with depression. This is correlating with a lack of reality, and the lack of truth Innis, and perhaps even. You know, the destruction of our democracy. There's a lot in there. Yeah. And I guess I kind of disagree with some of the harshness of the carrot character. Okay. The the social media platforms, basically, they're providing a really good service for people and people are voting for it by using it. They do need to monetize it because running those things cost a lot of money. Meanwhile, people are figuring out how to do things better. How to be more ethical about it how to be more transparent about it? It's really tough to do that. Particularly as the platforms are facing fire from the worst purveyors of disinformation. For example, in Washington. The purveyors this information are complaining about bias directed against the platforms. We're all the platforms are really doing is starting to enforce their terms against fraud and deception and disinflation. So maybe we need to see more on that. And to work the back channels between critics like Rene duress stra Zane up to her fetchy, folks. Like that who have really good on this criticism getting people to work together because we are in a national emergency. Maybe global we need people of goodwill to work with each other not to direct friendly fire at each other. Remember, I talked to veterans law knots infected by a terminology, but we we are in a real we're all in this together thing. I'm pushing people together even though diplomacy is not something I'm natural at because nerd. So to put my money where my mouth is I'm working with Omaha network and the Mozilla folks yesterday, we launched the responsible computer science challenge. Meaning how do you figure out how to put an ethics curriculum into computer science training? I was kind of lucky as a wanna be physicist. Because there is a lot of discussion about that among the creators of first nuclear weapons, and I am a wannabe physicist. Although in my first year, college, I decided I might need a job, and what will this? What is the mission? Here you're gonna take computer scientists to say, here's a moral framework to think about what you're building. Or maybe question what you're building? Because as we've discussed actually, it's it's become an unintended theme of this event, which is growth at all costs is now having a significant cost. Yeah. Well, the deal with this contest. It's a challenge where different folks will propose curricula for getting ethic straining into a computer sciences and related engineering. So the idea is to figure it out and then the start get it implemented in at different universities. And so on a lot of it has to do. Like the nuclear physicists were reflected afterwards, you think about what's going to happen regarding what you're doing because. You know, when you create say, tools, which could have enormous benefits, but also could be used for bad stuff. Think about the end intended consequences. I mean, you could start by watching. What's the Netflix show dark mirror black mirror? He asked should know better since I love TV. But. Watch in particular the episode called metalhead. Which one is that what was the premise? I did see this one. Let's say a robot dog. Yes. But not a nice one that meant that. Don't do a spoiler, no spoilers. But definitely my second favorite just for its sheer. Newel singular..