People forget shorts things at allegedly happened even develop false memories ted bundy hillside strangler timothy mcveigh. Oj simpson the menendez brothers. Michael jackson phil. Spector martha stewart. Jerry sandusky bill cosby harvey weinstein. Do you actually leave at the individuals. That i just need victims of either false memories or bad identification. If false information is incorporated into question the person adopted into their memory. Absolutely yes so. Dr loftus have you and i met for welcome back to season. Two of jury duty the trial of robert durst. I'm your host carryanne. solis. I'm joined by my co host brittany bookbinder tomorrow. We will release episode covering the third day of robert durst testimony today. We focus on the defenses. Only other live witness. Dr elizabeth loftus is a memory expert with an extensive resume both in terms of her professional accomplishments as well as the number of high profile criminal cases in which she has testified as an expert witness. She is generally called to cast doubt on the memories of witnesses. Why was dr loftus called to testify in this case. And why did the defense team choose her. As the opening act for robert durst himself in this episode will speculate on the possible reasons behind calling loftus and examine how effective that strategy has proven to be. We'll also explore the subtext of deputy. Da john lewis extensive cross examination of this witness. That's coming up after the break. Want the high stakes stuff. The believe the hype stuff criminally. Good emotional roller coaster can't believe what you're seeing stuff you know the good stuff. Amc plus has it all obsessed with the walking dead dive deeper than ever with the walking dead origins narrated by the cast before the new season. 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She's gonna talk about how ideas and suggestions other post event. Information had modify people's memories people. Forget the story. Things at allegedly happened or even develop false memories and reese can be contaminated misinformation from leading questions media reports and other witnesses. False recollections. While sam reese to be expressed with a great deal emotion and the belief that they're true as time passes in memory is getting weaker. Weaker you become even more vulnerable. Host yvette. fish as we've reported robert durst long-held version of events that he was not in los angeles at the time of berman's murder and that he did not write. The so-called cadaver note changed shortly before this trial began. He now admits that he was in los angeles and did in fact write the cadaver note however since his narrative is uncorroborated by any other witnesses. The jury had to wait for durst testimony which is expected to continue into next week to learn his complete story for the night that burma was murdered. Aside from presenting the jury with dirt zone words. It appears that the defense team strategy is to cast doubt on the deluge of evidence presented by the prosecution that points to dir skilled thus the defense called an expert witness whose role in this trial seems to be to impugn the memories of those who have testified to the damning statements made by both the defendant and the victim in this case on tuesday august third. Dr elizabeth lofter's took the stand and sad for close to seven hours over four different days on direct examination. Defense attorney david. Czeslaw asked loftus about her extensive curriculum vitae including her list of honorary degrees czeslaw. Then got to the heart of his examination. His questions seemed to take direct. Aim at the prosecution. In this case. Six to eight people are interrogated by the search person and they say the same thing that's still indicate a false memory. It can if if so six eight people are subjected to the same. Maybe problematic Interviewing or post amount suggestion some kind of suggestive information name. They might all end up believing something. That isn't accurate. It's important to note that the defense and prosecution cannot refer to specific witnesses or testimony when questioning this memory expert witness but chestnuts line of questioning begs the question. Who are the six to eight people that he is referencing. The defense team's narrative suggests that chasnoff is taking aim at the memories of a handful of susan berman's close friends who testified about information they had regarding susan's involvement in the alleged cover-up of kathy durst. Death czeslaw continued. If false information is incorporated into a question in the person adopted into their memory absolutely. Yes you explain how that works well. That's the kind of thing that we've actually done. In some of my experiments we incorporate false information into a question and we look to see what people do with that suggestive questions. So you show people say a simulated accident where a car goes through a yield sign before the accident and ask a leading question like did another car past the red car. When it was at the intersection with a stop sign that can cause many people to now believe in remember they saw a stop sign instead of yields time. That's just one experimental example of how a question that has embedded in some misinformation can be adopted by people. Both the question and answer appear to insinuate that the prosecution might have implanted false memories in witnesses by asking leading questions but who specifically among susan's friends is chestnut referencing. Could it be nick shaven. Nick you also mentioned that susan said to you that bob had confided in her to more easily set up an alibi. Do you remember telling the police. That is yes amused fourteen years now. We're not saying whether this is necessarily true or not. We're trying to figure out what susan told you that. Somehow she helped with an alibi and early. Yeah yeah yeah. I would say about tasks and again. It's not that year saying you believe to.