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And so they just have to kind of plot along and Nancy Pelosi is just going to fall away from the spotlight. So on to that point about playing defense a lot of the fights over these rules involved, you know, sort of blue sky ideas that are, you know, Donald Trump is not going to sign, but it sets it sets a table for how. Democrats might legislative they control the entire government in two years. And there was some discontent from the left about some of the things in the rules package. They brought back these rules called Pero that basically mean if you're going to expand an entitlement program, you need to to finance that with new revenues. There was some discontent about how powerful this green new deal committee is going to be it's not going to be able to directly propose legislation, and we saw Alexandria Casio Cortez was one of just three members of democratic conference who voted against the rules package because they didn't think it was progressive enough. Do they have valid concerns there. The vast majority of the progressive caucus decided that they were fine with this packaging. They signed off on it. I mean, I think that people like ASC wanted what they wanted for good reasons, and I agree with those positions. But also, I think this is a victory for them to get these discussions on the table. I read an interview with her actually where she basically said that that conversation has now widened the green new deal is something that no one had heard of or practically no one had heard of like a few months ago. And now, it's something that people I. To the left and people in the center are talking about, you know, she's widened the Overton window on the left when it's been actually it's been creeping so far right for so long. I think that the Pero a rule is an interesting compromise. My recollection in John correct me if I'm wrong they passed that. But also said, but we can violate this. When we want to like it. So I think that's actually pretty masterful deal making on the part of progressives. If they said, okay, we're gonna vote for this thing that sounds really good, but we cannot comply with it for the things we really really want. So what does what he did in the past? Anyway, they waved it anyway. So, you know, John Bresnahan capital bureau chief for politico. Thank you for joining us. Thanks for having me. It is January twenty nineteen. And that means we're about a month into the twenty twenty presidential election campaign. Former housing and urban development secretary Houlihan Castro who also served as mayor of San Antonio is expected to announce a presidential run imminently, but more notably Senator Elizabeth Warren is formed a committee to explore a presidential run. We're joined now by Mike konczal, Mike is fellow at the Roosevelt institute where he focuses on financial reform and progressive economic policy. Mike, thanks for joining us. Thanks for having me. So Mike on the show couple of weeks ago. We were talking about these proxy fights over Beto Aurora, which seemed to be an opportunity to relitigate the fight between Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton and over, you know, the level of progressivism that should be in the. Socratic presidential candidates agenda. Where does Elizabeth Warren sit in the fight over the future of the Democratic Party? You know, it's interesting so coming out of two thousand sixteen the tw- the Democrats had three major problems to overcome. They had to reestablish their base with people of color and younger people. They had to consolidate a lot of gains. They made with suburban moderate voters, and they needed to resecure and take back the upper midwest from President Trump, and the largely did this in two thousand eighteen very well now looking at twenty twenty it's still a challenge. But it's now going to.