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A. dot com or call one eight six six Venus fly that's carnivore a dot com or one eight six six Venus fly call us today welcome back to coast to coast AM Richard Serra coming to you from Toronto in depth radio news talk ten ten and we are speaking with David Brody about his latest treasure Templar a the ninth in his Templars in America series and before we go to the phones couple questions I got this on my Twitter Jeremy wants to know if you have found any information David about a Louis Mueller of Georgetown New York and possible ties to the Templars he is somewhat of a local legend in the area especially concerning a hidden treasure much like oak island on his old state so that's in Georgetown New York David is Louis milieu Mueller ring about I will write it down right now and check it out as soon as you're done I'll move you learn shorts that I've never heard of that yeah Louise Mueller M. U. E. L. L. E. R. and that's in Georgetown he's a bit of a local legend interesting all right yeah the the just the judges panel that once key right that's the one that really holds the the the clues that's the one yes and I'm not sure I'm not sure to be honest Richard why that's the one that people focus on it may be that as of the thinking is that the judges are watching the temple are it's just the way their range of panels are arranged in the temple are are watching the holy grail in many many people think what could still use of the holy grail so if you follow the temple are the leads to the grail so that maybe the thinking as to why the judges or the the the the the panel that everyone thinks is is is that secret math are are there are there not photographs of the of the judges of the guest judges panel or any or any depictions drawings yeah so there is a photograph from the early nineteen hundreds of the panel and that's what has been you so you can find online and then also it after the panel stolen they hired a as our expert about cater to is actually a forger the paint from the painting a new panel and so that's it so the replacing panels what is on display now it's saying bobbles cathedral in dance so that the black and white photographs and then what color reproduction but again neither of those is the original and so is do you suspect we know whether the original is still out there is it in a private collectors hands was or was it possibly destroy no one's sure I mean again and no one knows where it is one theory is that it really is a map of the holy grail and that local group the Freemasons the logs has the custody of it as a way to keep treasure hunters away from finding the holy grail and that they still have the other to this day but that's just a theory and what about the the the long held theory that's oak island the the money pit our hope is that the resting paid place of these these unimaginably priceless treasures right I thought the V. oak island possibility I think that pertains to the Templar treasure of the physically on the gold and silver I I I don't believe that that something like the ark of the covenant of the holy grail would have been buried in a hit on an island off Nova Scotia have separate early but I don't think that the final resting spot for a religious artifact but it's entirely possible that treasure Templar treasure is in a little sense worse secreted adult island in either are still there or and this goes back to an earlier theory that I mentioned were retrieved and the seventeen seventies and used to fund the American revolution all right I would pick up on that point later let's go to the wildcard line Mike is in Denver Mike welcome the coast to coast AM good evening gentlemen I thank you so much for taking my call David I'm a big fan of your work in your books I wanted to give your opinion on two movies surrounding the knights Templar treasure the national treasure with Nicholas cage indeed if they cheat code now the da Vinci code they talked about the knights Templar treasure being more of a spiritual treasure in the sense of the bloodline of Jesus Christ in in protecting that treasure in itself in also on my when you get your take on the rumors of the eighteen Templar ships they would miss seeing and if the treasurer someday treasure could possibly have been located on those ships thank you Richard Mike thanks for that eighteen missing Templar ships well **** about with that is on on Friday the thirteenth of October thirteen oh seven that's the day that the king of France with the with the ascent of the pope raided the Templar treasury and I love the temple art that was in Paris one of his motivations the king of France was he the town park a lot of money and so what better way to get rid of your death that we get rid of your bankers so he raided the treasury in Paris expecting to find the Templar treasure when they got there it was empty is is is it N. lasted one of the reports is that the temp lights had been forewarned and that their treasure went out the night before and ended up at a port named La Rochelle and that eighteen Templar ships sailed from La Rochelle which is on the western coast of France probably up to Scotland and that that that was the first resting spot of the Templar treasure so that and so you know if if if the treasure have to go someplace okay and it wasn't in Paris when when Philip without the king rated the the the the treasury cell yes I have to go someplace and and Wallace seems to be a logical spot for it to end up because at that time Robert the Bruce controlled Colin he had been excommunicated from the church he was not beholden to the pope and so that makes sense as as as a destination and I think it my first question Richard you remember what it was about the something to do with the national treasure the movie national treasure and the da Vinci code he also mentioned the Vinci code all right that is so so the debate you code that's a back to the same pressing a wheel what was what was the treasure was it something spiritual or was it something physical my sense of it is when you're talking about the holy grail that is something spiritual as opposed to something physically it is something that some kind of knowledge or secret that's my sense of what it's always been more than what Hitler believe which was some kind of magical as an object of some kind I would thought it was a metaphysical type thing a spiritual secret more than something substantive well there's actually a chalice of the holy grail in Hitler got his hands on and I like to think that his just like in them the raiders of the Lost circumstance we just melts the moment he he clasped it in is is filthy paws let's say hi to Jeff in Sonora California west of the Rockies Jeff good morning good evening welcome to coast to coast AM your your name fascinating subject growing and I was one of take care Mister Brody's brain a little bit about view topics maybe you know the bottom since he's written so many novels do you would you happen to know more detail about the subtext and its relation in dating back to Akhnaton what they're talking about golf this research and I'm very familiar with it and and and and you know Scott makes a point in in his book which I believe is entitled Akhenaton and how to act like that but I have a not exactly right but the the the whole the whole can flail the quickest way outside that that we see often times for trade in in Egypt shin iconography looks a little like the whole taxes Scott Scott traces of like that's all the way back to the mystery schools of ancient Egypt at one point Jesus study there in the Scott sort of place connect the dots with that book that going all the way back to the ancient mystery schools earlier I talked about the Duke of Burgundy being part of a sort of continue one of of members of society wealthy members of society who investigated and were students of the mystery schools of mysticism of the secret society and again that traces way all the way back to the the mystery schools in Egypt that mac guys the the the the druids of of blessed as east of the about British Isles yes Scott traces that whole look that's all the way back to as a teenager thanks for the call let's say hi next to Wayne is in Toronto or hear my backyard Wayne good morning welcome to coast are you there wing pretty good how are you terrific thanks you're on with Dave Brody go ahead I went hi David I was so concerned with the fact it seems that no one ever mentions some the brothers of Jesus what about their lineage since the marriage of the lamb is controversial yeah you know one of one of the possible line of the brothers of Jesus and and you know I'm not an expert on this so pardon me if I'm saying things that are not be right but I believe one of the lines traces to Cleopatra blunder merges with Cleopatra's line in northern Africa and one of the mysteries that that been swimming around for almost generation now is the burrows cave mystery in in southern Illinois and there's some researchers who believe that the the the explorers who came over in in in in the long before Columbus who came to southern Illinois this would have been in the first or second century AD from northern Africa and secreted objects thousands of artifacts in a cave in Illinois that that those people were led by Juba J. U. B. aching Cuba who was a descendant of the lines of both wanted Jesus is brothers and Cleopatra there's a fascinating tie in there I don't think that means your question but that's the one that's the as the popped into my head we were talking about the siblings of Jesus and their offspring we thank you for the call I think that's kind of a a Protestant conceived the idea that Jesus may have had brothers I mean that the term brothers that used in the Bible it brothers is kind of a loose my understanding anyway Middle East up people often refer to brothers it could be it could mean a cousin it could mean a close family friend but then the other thing the idea is that that his earthly father Joseph had children before he married merry and so those those would have been his half brothers by that and it's helping out to identifies your sort of extended family some male names that would have been his cortical brothers as well you touched on Scotland and this was one jurisdiction that was welcoming to the Templars so how does prince Henry Sinclair fit into all this so the the the finest college thirties early thirteen hundred to ten plus route law they have to flee a bunch of men up in Scotland probably with their treasure at that time squall was at war with England and you all many many of your listeners are seen the movie Braveheart with Mel Gibson Lee William Wallace and so one of the one of the legendary stories is that the the the Templars appeared at the ballot bonnet burn and sort of turn the tide the stock losing to the English in the temp what appeared and all the sudden the the day was saved and because of that Robert the Bruce gave them safe haven in Scotland so we'll fast forward a couple generations that's been around thirteen twenty thirteen twenty two in that range now is that thirteen ninety eight or so and the grand son prince Henry Sinclair of love one of the fighters at that battle one of the Sinclair fighters this is prince Henry Sinclair in his grandfather was part of the ballot gonna burn but he now embarks on a trip across the Atlantic perhaps with the Templar treasure I and ends up starting off in Nova Scotia perhaps near oak island and workings way down the Atlantic coast to New England then we knew the.

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