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Of do not assume authorized to jettison all in time civilization the only thing that the white man has the Negro should want is that is how and so Buckley goes on like that for a bit and then he he this sort of major I guess substantive argument of Buckley makes for the end of his speech as he says the American racial situation is the product of an and forty calls an unfortunate conjunction of two factors on the one hand there are individual races out there and Buckley says that is a problem it's important to note that language or individual races a few bad apples if you will on the other side there are failures of the of the Negro community so uses the individuals on the one side community on the other and he says that although it's it is important the more opportunities be afforded African Americans it's also he says important for people like Baldwin to play the role of trying to encourage people with an eye his community is is Buckley puts it to take advantage of the opportunities that exist so I think that's a very deliberate word choice by Buckley and so I say that you know the slogans civil rights movement is freedom now Buckley slogan is some freedom one day when we decide you're ready is is the way I would I would conclude that so just wrap things up and then I'll take your questions Buckley involvement do me one more time so the the the debate happens February eighteenth March seventh nineteen sixty five is is known as Bloody Sunday if you seen the film some a you know what happens that day you see a protesters brutalized by album a lot law enforcement officers the the the debate transcript to condense transcript is published in The New York Times that same day the same day as bloody Sunday the Buckley Baldwin debate debate appears in New York times Sunday magazine Buckley involved in then invited on the television to meet again on the show David such kinds of those of you who you know may may be familiar with such kind here show called open end the last thing on at night so they can just keep talking and talking and talking and talking to they passed out in nineteen sixty seven the cap the two hours so Buckley involvements out there for two hours it was right before Buckley announced his candidacy for mayor of New York City and they discuss among other things blues police brutality in New York and by most accounts Buckley got the better of Baldwin that night so in in Cambridge Baldwin wins the vote five hundred forty four to one hundred sixty four so he's tramp in that regard Buckley I gets the better of him on open and for for various reasons and as they reflect on as many people reflect on the open end experience Baldwin says there's one moment the cause me to he says to my eternal dishonor lose that debate and refused to engage a Buckley and that was when Paul was describing the conditions in Harlem and the and the conditions under which people live and Buckley says do the landlords Tippy toe uptown and throw garbage in the streets there were bald one heard when Buckley said that was that he was saying to bald one of the people in Harlem deserved their fate and those people downtown deserve their fate and for bald when that was about as low as you can go Wimbledon was asked to reflect on his encounters a Buckley a few years later the belly hills hotel nineteen sixty eight is being interviewed by the only times he says after Buckley said that what I should have done is hit him over the head with my coffee Cup now I think of course that was a joke that contained a very serious idea at its core late in the the speech a Cambridge Baldwin says what concerns me most is that if we fail to hear each other then reason will lose its authority how relevant is that today if we fail to hear each other reason will lose its authority and there will be blood there will be fire next time and all this is that is what concerns me most Buckley for his part reflects on his encounters a bald and also in nineteen sixty eight Kerry wells writes a profile of Buckley for esquire and he says that of all the debates I've had and I've had you know Buckley that hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of debates I lost the debate at Cambridge by the largest margin but it's the performance that I'm most proud of why Garry wills Assam Buckley says because I didn't give them one damn inch so there's something about this story right that is essentially tragic you have these two people who are both so gifted in their ability to communicate they're so gifted in their ability to express themselves and they have these encounters that end in disaster and I think that's a lesson that we all need to think about in Baldwin says to us that none of us are off the hook this is an important message from Baldwin Baldwin proves to be a very powerful lens through which to view some but like William F. Buckley junior the Baldwin said we make a mistake when we only focus on those who we see as our opponents or as you know political politically ill informed or even evil Baldwin says we have to all think about the ways in which we are complicit through those millions of details of every day that he talks about the speech in the ways that we serve in some of the ways we behave to perpetuate systems of power thanks a lot I really appreciate you being.

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