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"Uh-huh in San Jose welcome Tim America. I'm John. I'm Jessica Yellen. I'm John Lovett the Dan pfeiffer later in the show we'll talk to the founder under and CEO of the East Oakland Collective Housing Activists Candice Elders here but first. We got some news. We have some news to talk about tonight ways that there's some days some days. We don't know what we're GONNA cover. I shall see this week. Donald Trump has become the fourth president in history to face impeachment the it's GonNa take a while. It hasn't happened yet. We got some works in you. Guys Got Some Work Jessica. This has never happened like no. It's not always like this. You have come at just the right time excitement so speaker. Nancy Pelosi announced the inquiry based on a whistleblower complaint that was made public surly or today and begins like this. I have received information from multiple. US government officials at the president of the United States is using the power of his office to solicit interference from. I'm a foreign country in the two thousand election that includes pressuring a foreign country to investigate one of the president's main domestic political rivals the president's personal lawyer Mr Rudolph W Giuliani is the central figure in this effort attorney. General Bar appears to be involved as well. This allegation has been corroborated by a White House call summary Rudy Giuliani and the president himself who responded today by threatening the White House officials who spoke to the whistleblower blur with execution Giuliani on the other hand was last heard screaming on the phone a reporter these morons when this is over I will be the hero I will be the hero the you can't make it out. You can't make it up Jessica. Let's start with today's news which was the release of the full whistle blower complaint and the testimony of Joseph Maguire. WHO's the director of National Intelligence. What was the most important new information formation we learned from these big developments today. There's a lot I why first of all the director of National Intelligence said that the whistle blower did the right thing so so that takes out of the realm partisanship we could spend all night talking about the details of that report. I guess there are three big things complaint. One is that Giuliani was all over it doing follow up meetings according to the complaint and the State Department was so concerned that it was compromising sizing national security they were contacting Ukraine to help them figure out how to work around all of this guy not according to Giuliani screen shot at texts they were into it they were into it yeah superintendent that that there were ongoing contacts to encourage them to play ball and then the big thing. Is that it it alleges that the president that White House aides tried to cover up the president's phone call by hiding the transcript in a super classified server which I think Tommy into a better job explaining than I could. You tell us what's going on there with stashing all the call transcript and the classified server so so there's like levels of classification in their secret there's top secret and you actually email systems that can handle secret and top secret information but then there's some stuff that's called. Codeword information that is so oh sensitive in so secretive that it's given a special name. That's literally a code word to learn about that information. You get ready to crime no the to learn about that information you have to read into it reads like Rita document sign it right so it's a compartment it information and so there's an intelligence director at that works over in the the era and when there's a National Security Council meeting when you're going to talk about some covert action program or something like really sensitive they will bring in paper into that meeting and they'll table drop. I didn't put it in front of you because nobody doesn't get disseminated otherwise they were taking mundane call transcripts of trump with foreign leaders and they were so worried about about those things getting pushed around. They're putting them up on this secret server which means that no one will ever see them which is a total abuse of the classification authority to you. Hide embarrassing or damaging information violation of the presidential records act is a violation of an executive order that overseas when and how you can classify a information so it's against the law as well cry I mean when do classified server mishaps unclassified servers that will get you awful circle Dan. What are the responses. We're seeing from. Republicans from some Republicans in Congress has been you know what the president did did was wrong but this doesn't rise to the level of impeachment what I think it's good for all of us to sort of take a second like why is is this an impeachable offense what the president did with Ukraine the most impeachable action if I can have is abusing their power for their personal political game and that's exactly what trump did here he dangled in some way shape or form critical. US aid to a country that is under threat threat from Putin on the condition that as the call that Ukraine conduct a politically beneficial investigation into do one of trump's most likely political rivals it is a textbook definition is the answer to a political science class essay question. What is an impeachable offense. It is a is an absolute of abuse of his office and what is important about it is it's not even subtle he very explicitly asked for it out in the open and which is why like there was no option for the other than what they're doing here because it is an absolute abusive on that you cannot use the power of the presidency job yourself politically or financially trump is doing both this. One is the former not the latter now from a national security perspective. Why why has this whole episode been so troubling like what well I mean look withholding nearly four hundred billion dollars in military aid from a country. Sorry where you have the brand new president who was running on this anti-corruption platform who's sitting on the border of Russia where the Russians chains as recently as two thousand fourteen invaded there fucking country in annex part of it instill hold like seven to ten percent of their territory. He is signaling to this the new president's Alinsky in Ukraine and all these other foreign leaders that the way you get whatever you need from the United States is to take care of Donald Trump personally you grease. Tim Greece's Guy Rudy Giuliani. We are drunk. I keep banging around your capital. There's going to be like there's going to be a bunch of other countries that think okay. Donald wants election interference. What are we got like. Let's make something up. Let's hack and there's a million different ways. This could go south and trump is is just inviting all these people to to muck around in our elections. Hello IT IS THE PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE MR MR president trump. I have the two quick flags number one. Rudy Giuliani seems to be asking me for favors to help you win reelection. Also I don't know how to handle. He is crying about his divorce. Guidance appreciated gators just because I missed you America that's in Ukraine that was that you so obviously Nancy Pelosi and a lot of Democrats have been reluctant up until at this point to sort of come out in favor of an impeachment inquiry. This is after Robert Muller found many instances of the president obstructing justice along with with plus plenty of evidence. There's all kinds of allegations that donald trump has been funneling thousands and thousands of taxpayer dollars into the trump organization by trying to pressure people to stay in trump hotels all this kind of stuff. What do you think it was about this incident that sort of push the Democrats that were holdouts over the edge it it one hundred percent happened while he was president. It wasn't a campaign time event and he admitted to it like He. He himself explained what happened so there's no I did that. It has the appearance it's very plain to see what happened there and so it's not ought as confusing and convoluted as Muller report was there's also the sense that the Muller reports about the election so it was in itself partisan and so that was that divided did public and this doesn't have the taint of partisanship in the same way yeah. I also noticed like some Republicans. Their first statement was Oh. This is the Democrats trying trying to nullify the two thousand sixteen election. You're like what the fuck you talking about. No it's actually it's election interference with the two thousand election. He sought four and he did it again. committed the crime again he welt after Muller testified he encouraged and then welcomed foreign assistance and the two thousand sixteen election he got away with fit and then the day after Bob Muller testified in you see this in the call summary. Right he calls President Alinsky and he was like yes so there's this whole thing this guy named Robert Mueller. He did a terrible job bad performance anyway. I got a favorite ask but the other piece of this that is so weird though is he he asked Presidents Alinsky to touch base with the Attorney General of the United States because he still thinks that Hillary Clinton's secret server is he's just like on the Lam and Ukraine you know what I mean like the has got to find the right like fake name at a hotel and that bad boys sitting there like ripping a sig and he you can be absorbed like he's he's mentally unwell you so concerned about how we view the legitimacy of the two thousand sixteen election that he is getting himself impeached. I tried to like sometimes step into the Maga- mind like what what does he think he's GonNa find. If Hillary surfer was in Ukraine somewhere what what is it gonNA fight. He's GonNa find validation validation because I'm telling you there's something on that server that he wants wants more than anything which is a video of his father saying Donnie. I love you. That's what he's looking for and all all of us are part of the search but there's this other element. I think that it's about this scandal that has helped propel pelvis forward politically which is it feels like an old scandal. You have a whistle blower right like there was a secret thing that trump did not he did not announce. How's the crime on twitter in advance. She's ammo which is really it seems absurd but is confounded democratic tissues in the press for two years now which is he commits all its crimes in the open and so we don't have this. Watergate s scenario of reporters digging around in government and secret sources telling you things and then popping a big story that exposes information like this one happened according to the old rules and so Democrats and the press treated it like scandals the problem with the mother thing is he did all this witness intimidation intimidation on twitter right and so we we don't know how to deal with crimes committed in front of us but crimes committed in secret is something that we have a plan foreign policy. He also released documents documents in this case which is old side and in the past they haven't under pressure. They had to do it well. That's the other thing too. It's just it's been quite a week. What will this week began with. We're going to release that transcript and once you guys see it on your faces and the funniest part of it's amazing but it's worth remembering that okay so we hear that there's this whistleblower. We hear that there's this transcript we hear this complaint and the administration is signaling all of its. Republican allies in the media types goons. Don't worry once you see the words on the page. It's another report will put it behind us. We'll be fine and and we were worried about that too. Well hold on guys. Let's not forget. It's not just about the transcript. It's about the complaint. It's about the larger effort to corrupt the government and its work can Ukraine and then the transcript turned out to be far more damaging than I think anyone. I imagine looking gobsmack roared. I The I was like and then I realized you know what I forgot that they are to morally bankrupt and ignorant to know that the crimes they did did cry right and they they they didn't. They were trying to pull one over on us. They Donald Trump genuinely believes now. The people who work around clearly didn't believe this because they tried to cover up the abuse of power but Donald Trump clearly believed that what he said in that transcript was he got along. He began the day by saying you're GONNA see it's a beautiful call surprise and then inside of the of the transcript. It is an explicit lissette. Quid pro quo the exact same exact thing. They promised there wouldn't be in the transcript.."