Dave Ragan, Kathy Fairbanks, Twitter discussed on Forum

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Our Twitter handle is at. Forum Kathy Fairbanks with us represents the no on eight campaign, and Dave Ragan represents the yes. On eight campaign and carry fibers NPR's health editor curious it's safe to say that what we really need here is more regulation in this industry. I'm not saying yes or no on eight th that putting it aside when you when you when I read the propublica report, and it's pretty alarming. Well, there has been a lot of responses to some of the meteoroid parts we've seen and there have been some efforts in the California legislature to more directly legislate legislate regulate dialysis clinics, but some of those bills have stalled and not gotten all the way through. So this is a different way to that. You know, the union is supporting direct action on clinics. It's not being done legislatively. That is true it's being done through ballot proposition. And so depending on how you feel about that process know, and whether this will actually work that way, you know, again, this is not a direct regulation of how. How you know what the staffing ratio should be in each individual clinic, or what kind of to being or drugs patients need to be provided. This is a much more broad blunt way of telling the operators how they need to spend the money within their clinics before they can take out revenue overhead and profit. We've got a strong opinion here from a listener named mad who's in favor of proposition. Eight knee rights I used to drive rideshare and we'd drop off dialysis patients at a clinic and Oakland all the time. They are sick poor and the clinics are terribly dirty and in bad neighborhoods. It shows a lot that so much money is being spent and that the industry is threatening the lives of their own patients if they don't get their money. This is a huge bluff by the industry, and we shouldn't fall for it. One hundred fifteen percent markup on anything is plenty period. Your thoughts. I want to address something this idea that there is no regulation in dialysis clinics. They are regulated very heavily by the federal government by the centers for Medicare and Medicaid services. They have to. Three hundred seventy six separate federal regulations. In addition to state regulations. Half of them are unsanitary regulations are so let me let me get to that the data shows that that's not true CMS as I mentioned regulates every single dialysis facility in the nation. So you can and in the information is made public..

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