Perez, Sprint, Paul Pierre Gasly discussed on The Autosport Podcast
Technically he drops down to 13th. Hindsight and if you can rewind time says that Paul Pierre gasly, who finished 11th in Q two, therefore he was the one to miss out on the Q three spot. He should have been in Q three in Paris should have been out in Q two finishing 13th, but they didn't have the information. They didn't have it everything sorted to hand at that point in time, and that's why we're talking hours after qualifying about Perez dropping broken basically half a grid spot and everyone in that gap going up a space. It does sound confusing. It does sound sort of you could say peak F one over complicating it, but there is a sort of a reason behind it in terms of where they were looking for the track limits and unfortunately an area that they weren't looking at for that instant sort of lap time deletion whilst qualifying is going on is where Perez fell foul. So yes, it's one of those unfortunate ones. I wouldn't say I'm sort of defending the rule makers or how they came to their decision, but they sort of didn't have the full facts at the time, therefore had to do it after qualifying, and that's why we're in this situation. But yeah, as you say, the bottom line is Perez will start the sprint, so not the full grand Prius. I know that the sprint race from 13th and everyone in between that gap goes up a spot. But of course, like you say, if he gains paces in the sprint race, he can end up back and forth. For the Grand Prix, which would be the massive irony if something like that would happen, which isn't too far off the world to possibility, given the pace he's got in that car. Yeah, and the car looks great. I have the FIA bulletin here. Thank you for sending that on. It says the team made the point that they took both risk and expended resources to compete in Q three. The stewards accept this point, however, in assessing a penalty after a recession, this is no different than any other situation. The usual penalty in deleting the lap time concerned and the stewards order the same penalty. Here, however, as a consequence, the driver would not have proceeded into Q three and therefore, in fairness to the other competitors, the stewards order that all lap times for Q three for the driver are also deleted. So that is their in their own words, their logic. We've seen this over the years in Formula One, you get that time between Q one and Q two or Q two Q three. They have a look at it. And if they can't identify it, then hard luck, right? Over the years, it's been like, well, that's obviously not fair. That person was blocked or impeded. And if it's not resolved in that gap, and that driver isn't given the penalty and then they can test that session, we've seen it time and time again, you just get lucky. Or you get unlucky in Formula One, whereas this is one of the first times I can remember where they've gone back and gone. No, no, no. We are inventing our own time machine to put things how we think they should be. Which I agree with you. Is P F one, like it's just, it's a little bit weird. And it doesn't do a huge amount for the fans. When they turn on their TV on Saturday. The fans that are watching on television, the fans that were there at the track. Would have gone, yeah, home or whatever, believing that Perez was fourth. Now, okay, Perez being in fourth is not exactly a headline factor. But it's very easy and very simple to say the poll sitter could have been in this situation. Whoever that may have been. And that just changes the whole story when it's quite easily to have quite easy to avoid. And that's the sort of problem that they keep finding themselves in. But on the other hand, rules are rules and they did apply them as accurately as they could. Okay. George Russell lines up forth in the Mercedes because he put in a good time before shunting, followed by Esteban ocon in the first of the alpines and a brilliant result for the two Haas drivers lining up now in 6th and 7th, doing some very quick mental arithmetic. On my notes that I've written. And Magnussen pipping Schumacher, but that's stunning we'll talk about in a minute. Fernando Alonso, second Alpine in 8th, followed by Lewis Hamilton, who was bottom of Q three, get bumped up, and Pierre gasly is in tenth, followed by Alban Bottas, Perez in 13th. Tsunoda and Lando, who at one point was running 8th early on in qualifying and had a shocker. Along with teammate Ricardo in 16th, stroll, Joe Latifi, Vettel lines up last, again, track limits catching out Sebastian Vettel. Where should we go next? Let's talk about the Mercedes crashes, two separate incidents, wiping out Russell and Hamilton, like I say Russell had a good time on the board, so starting up on the second row, which is brilliant. We should talk about, well, first of all, Hamilton brought out the red flags, about 5 and a half minutes to go. He ran into the barrier at turn 7. Talk us through this. Yeah, so, a very uncharacteristic error you could say from how it's and he did say sort of after qualifying, he partly held his hands up, but also wasn't really sure what happened. He lost the rear of the car going through this high speed corner and it is one of those where as soon as you lose it, well, you're on a one way ticket to hit hit in the barriers and I remember not so many years ago, Bottas did it in a Mercedes in a very similar situation. So it's not impossible to do. Many will do it after and since. But yeah, I think just it would be interesting to see what the Mercedes Benz Dave and how they analyze their qualifying because naturally their drivers will push harder in Q three. They seem to believe in and to be fair the pace in practice did show it that if they completed their lamps and didn't sort of have the issues that they came into a Q three, they would have been there or there about knocking on the door of the top three. And I think that's basically what they were going for the car is inherently a bit twitchy a bit nervous and we've seen this whether it's the porpoise singing the corners that unsettle the drivers or if it was just a gust of wind catching the car and putting them out. But they were pushing and on the limit. As you would expect in Q three because it will qualify because that's the time you do it of all the entire weekend. But they seem to find that edge where when you go over it, well, that's the consequence of it. Whereas I think you could say because they have the faster package, they have to take air versus a slightly less risk in terms of if you were the rebel or the Ferrari drivers. So a combination of errors and issues, I think, have hit both Mercedes drivers and it's very rare to see that, to be honest, but that was it. Similar sorts of crashes, similar sorts of situations for both Hamilton and Russell like you say, if anything Russell got slightly lucky, you could say, because as you say, he got a lap time in that was good enough for 5th anyway, and he was basically going on his final run in Q three. And with Paris's penalty, it's put him forth.