Covid, Sydney discussed on Happy Mama Movement with Amy Taylor-Kabbaz


At the moment you might get a week of care through midwives or you might, you know, through your you might get a one 6 week appointment with your obstetrician to check your perineum into chicky uterus and to, you know, you don't have that relationship, you know, privately practicing midwife, you get you get appointments right up until 6 weeks. Daily at first, and then weekly, you know, and you've got someone who knows the whole journey you've been on and can debrief and can help you in those steps into motherhood. And so, you know, privately practicing midwives are not cheap, and they're not accessible to everyone and there's not enough of them to go around. And that is not the answer. We're trying to find the solution of getting continuity made with free care, you know, in all of our models. And what's the reaction being you've just come back from the tour just until you have your second baby? Yes. Obviously, in some parts of the industry and in some parts of the world, this conversation is welcomed and celebrated. But I know from my many years in the media as well, this conversation is dismissed. As misguided and at times even dangerous when you're bringing a documentary into the world confronting this, what's the reaction being? The reaction has been extraordinary actually. It's been beyond everything we'd hoped and imagined, actually, we one of the benefits of the COVID delay. We were meant to release this film last April. And then it got pushed back ten months. One of the benefits of that is that we entered into a lot of international film festivals. And of which we've now won 23 international awards for. And yeah, it's wild. And one of the biggest, most affirming things about that is that we had people. You know, we knew we knew that people who were passionate about birthing and about women and about outcomes of mothers and babies would love this film. We knew that. Yes. But when we entered into these international film festivals, and we started getting selected and we started winning awards and we started winning best feature documentary in multiple festivals. And we were then having interviews with the festival directors, which they were then playing in q-and-as after the film was screened overseas. They got it. And that was one of the first really affirming things that we had was that these people these were film people. Often people that hadn't had their own children or that had and had had a variation of different experiences. And they were feeding back to us. The key messaging of what we were trying to get across. So that to us was extraordinary. You know, people overseas who were not in the birth world at all, were absolutely getting it. And seeing it reflected in their own communities and with the women and families that they knew. You know, everyone, everyone has connections to birth. Everyone was born everyone has friends who are, you know, if they haven't had babies themselves, they know people who, you know, it's a story that we're all connected to. And so that was extraordinary for us. We've had unbelievable feedback. I mean, we had over a hundred over a hundred screenings booked in before when we'd done, I think three screenings here in Sydney with our Q&A tua. We suddenly had a hundred screenings booked around the country. And it's just it's just been received so well. You know, and I know that there is also the flip side of it. There are people who actually won't even see it because of their frightened of how they're frightened of being triggered by it. And there is that resistance like you say in the media and have people who come from an angle who I think they have preconception of our film potentially that it's all about home birth and it's all about everyone having a natural birth. And it's absolutely not. It's absolutely not. We follow women's journeys throughout and all of these women have very different outcomes. We follow birthing our country so we follow the indigenous women and what's happening with them. You know, we're really looking at this from a holistic point of view in terms of what's happening really across the board in our country and how we can make it better. Yeah. And that's what I wanted everyone to hear as well. This is something that we all need to see. It's not casting a shadow on any ways that mothers bring their babies into this world. It's about how can we do it better. So she feels empowered in the process. And as you said, and I alluded to, there will be some parts of the industry in the media that dismiss this, but it sounds like the impact this documentary is having is spreading further than ever before. And that's so exciting. So it is really exciting. And I think that's the power of film, you know. We keep saying that all of these study, all of this information is there. It's all in the research journals. It's all there. But that doesn't get absorbed. And people of there have been people fighting this fight for decades. We are not. We are not forging this new path. We are just jumping in and we have created we have created the message in a medium that people can absorb and people can take in and so I think that's where the power in it lies. And the beautiful thing, the best thing of the feedback we've been getting is that people come out of it. They're surprised actually at how positive and how elated they come out, feeling like this film, yes, it is heavy in parts, but people like there is raucous laughter in this film as well. People come out feeling full of hope and positive about change. And that is really what we were aiming for. Absolutely. Yeah, it's, you know, it's, I think people, you know, especially people who've experienced trauma. You know, can maybe feel a bit frightened about delving into that. But I think it opens up a conversation and beautiful feedback from partners as well. You know, we cover the experience of partners in birth, which is often well, it's very not often talked about. You know, we don't often look at that. But the partners are traumatized as well. And we've had beautiful feedback from women saying, my goodness, my husband.

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