Israel, Solomon Teke, Officer discussed on People of the Pod


We'll chat with experts from around the world to help you better understand the weeds headlines and what they all mean for Israel and the Jewish people. I'm your host Sethi Cogan last month. An off-duty Israeli police officer shot right and killed Solomon Teke an Ethiopian Israeli teenager. The exact circumstances are still unclear but Solomon's death has roiled the Ethiopian Israeli community and Israeli society as a whole. We're joined today by Pnina Agan Yahoo. Panini came to Israel at a young age from Ethiopia and today works as a leading agent of social change in Israel as the interfaces and synergy director in the strategic strategic planning unit of the Jewish Agency for Israel. You know thank you so much for joining us. You're welcome what do we know about the events that led to the death S. Sullivan Teke so it's a big confusing at the moment you have this demoniac from both sides the telling different stories some people from the Cuban community will say that the police officer there was there is trying to hide some. It's just the money though some that that can actually put him down to gel and out of hand. There was something that I personally even heard that they after which you can hear them anymore. They're not exist and there is a really I don't know how to express it but there is no sh in an affiliate instead of the community that they're not making the right. justic police not really looking in all the criteria on all the testimony all the voices and they basically Siklie easier for them to take the policeman side but if we want to look you know at the sucked at the moment the fact is that the policeman was in that area of playground where there was four or five teams that was playing together sitting outside and he was there not a with uniform not on duty with his wife and kids and he stayed that he sold them yelling in one kid or even be Makita and he came to help this boy and he asked him what you're doing and his group of teams told him not to intimate to this agreement. It's not as business that didn't know his policemen and the policeman said police many took out his tag and then the fact that start being different from different sides so their side said that day thought and throw a stone to because they're concerned about their life and and that he pulled the gun a dramatically and shut out and he will say that there were throwing many stones on him and he was in risk of his life and he was protecting them seven. That's why he was shooting The gun now. No one really knows exactly what happened until today and I think part of it is also because not everyone is telling the full picture of it the full story and this is another layer to what the community is expressed in regard into police profiling the discrimination by the police in Israel and and what form has that community expression taken have there been protests they were purchased then of course and I feel this process was much different from the previous wanted to know if you follow one in two thousand fifteen and the one a couple of months ago six months ago there was another case of teen was shot by a policeman man this time at the protest was much more intense and organized by the youth by the younger generation not even my generation and we did generation you know the board anythere but we came here in early age and the community the entire purchase through the what's up group. It's what's accepted. Stuck the texts applications rather everyone use it not through the media and the way they did it. It's was with known leadership on the field that you didn't have any leaders to negotiate with him in the protest to talk to him. If you're police or the you know the the press or the media it's it was all around the youth and through the what's up group by themselves and they didn't communicate what they want what fighting for the only message that they were trying to pass. Is that the society here to meet the wake up there is a police profiling and something has to be done in to this policy of how the police look at as black teams in Israel and for me by the way someone that's been in many parts of the fast it was very different because the voice here it was a different voice of of a different generation in our community but also because it's get to the point that they are very very depressed and they lost their trust lost their trusting any institution and they don't feel they can trust anyone. Even there friends that are not and I said that's the terrible thing about it. I mean it's terrible. Of course it's terrible and it's the heart and Painful Dad Assembly lost her son but I think it's also terrible and painful that there is a huge group of the generation I was born in Israel and they see them Israelis I now they see themselves if European I and they feel they you know are out of a outside of the entire society here and I'm motivated to do other things they feel. They no one care about them. There's almost like a reverse versus immolation going on where at the very beginning when the Ethiopian Elliott Israel I took place it. Was You know these are Jews. There should be welcomed. It's great that Ethiopians ends are here and now there's kind of a sorting almost like either Ethiopians are moving themselves or the rest of Israeli society moving theo. Pin's kind of outside of the mainstream. Is that what you're saying I'm saying that's the Phil that's notion now. Among the young generation I can tell daddy through my generation me and my peers and my friends we communicate a lot also through the what's up group. We all feel that you know in some cases we need to negotiate but growing communicate that with the with the answer narration tell them that you know it does astill our land we came here to stay here to be part of the society to be part of this country and we can just give up now and deaf guy you know because because of the year we need to fight back and see how we can fight ignorance in Israel or or racism and can action and our side of now way to other institution the to Shin or policymakers to take action for us but instead of is I feel there's a lot of anger and a lot of pain which is okay and and to have among the utes and that's why it's also become so violent protests. They've been there six hours outside. I was there in the first two hours and the participant tel-aviv it was very quiet very relaxed a protest this book beautifully the people for you know the a young generation spoke beautifully about what the care what's butter. Dan What's Magnum anger what's offended them and then I feel the anger was you know must must stronger than what other feelings madore out there and you had teens than you. It's all over the country protesting and and and stopping there the roads in Israel and did something didn't happen. I think the last time something like this happened was in the seventy s you know with the Moroccan community eighteen is well the same feeling with Ashkenazi Jews in Israel. I think our listeners are somewhat familiar with the basics of Ethiopia you know two large large waves mostly in the nineteen eighties nineteen ninety s today there around one hundred forty thousand Ethiopian Jews in Israel so what does that experience look like more broadly as they're Aaron. Economic gap is their social gap. You know what broadly speaking as the inexperience in Israel in my opinion during the successive side of the community unity and there's also the challenge there's still many challenges and they'll say that the challenges today as I see them is oh point five challenges that I say one of them is the skin color which is out there and I think we not there enough to speak about it to talk about it or even educated about it. I feel like today today. Dan Generation here doesn't do much embracing and skin color is part of their identity and which is okay and no one took about it too much but it's out out there and it's still a barrier because many times in Israel as the minority you may find yourself as the person that is standing ending Fourtou and documenting even though you haven't done anything regarding to that so even a kid born in Israel and is actually supposed to be an Israeli. We know what that will give an example with the young Jews in America if a young Jew in walking compass and there is movement there someone that boy guys Israel or Jewish people and he doesn't WanNa be field with that. It can take off the keep are you can take Ju- star and no one can't relate him to this community right we don't have this his privilege skin color if you know it child Bernese ballet and he wanted himself Israeli and only Israel and this is his choice of identity and he will do everything through the you know the DNA of the typical Israeli still people are gonNA look at him. I began and it's a challenge and it's something that we don't talk about at all in education system or Mongo Steph into society the second challenge in my opinion that related this it's that many sometimes institution Israel unfortunately and even individuals will cr self will see us and consider acids or limb new immigrant and again again for kids born is well that born to educate parents like me that already integrated to the society and live here to be considered Orla automatically even though you you not newborn pro up here. It's it's not only offended but it's put you in a in a very low side of the group. You're related to so especially in school system for example. If the principal the school have a special program for a new immigrant and you're gonNA pull out a kid and kid only because he looked at the appeal not because he's a new immigrant something wrong happening here. the third challenge is that our Judaism is still questionable in some sectors of the society some sectors in the society will never marry their kids with our kids because they do not think still that we Jewish or Jewish enough which is something that also relevant to other you know no and part the Jewish war if it's conservative very from and into Russian community in Israel the still forces something that we struggle a lot with because because it's a story or something that we can with us from the moment we arrived to Israel that was part of the conversation when they brought us that was part of the conversation when proper a Steph declare that we lost drew and we part of the Jewish people and still you will believe as a person that went through that for the last thirty five years..

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