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Now my conversation with Matt Barros. Back on the Peter King podcast, very happy to be joined today in Santa Clara, California in the offices of the San Francisco forty Niners by math barrows who covers the forty Niners for the ethnic longtime beat writer covering the forty Niners for the Sacramento bee. I've great admiration for Matt's work. I we should discuss this too mad at some point, but I do have to tell you, no, I'm sixty one years old. You know, old people like me always say, man, it would so much better when I was young when I was doing it, it was so much better. I'm just telling you right now I go around the country and I see the beat work that's being done, and I think it's fantastic. The reason I think it's fantastic is because you and so many of your peers who cover NFL teams now have such a dip. Difficult time compared to when we covered NFL teams because the access now is so much different and really quite honestly, so much less. I mean, when I covered the giants, I mean I'm getting Bill per cells. I'm getting George Young general manager like pretty consistently whenever I really need them. And it's just changed even though I think forty Niners do a good job. You know, we Kyle Shanahan John Lynch and all that. But in general it's just it's a much more difficult job than I think it was a few years ago. Yeah, I think there are more people covering it and from different angles, a lot of people who aren't here all the time. That's what the internet's allowed you to do and you have more people there. And I think the natural reaction from teams is to restrict the access just because there's so many bodies. There's so many demands on on these guys that they're trying to quote unquote protect sometimes from all the questions and people who want interview them. Yeah, it's, I mean, one of the things I do want to ask you about is where you think we're going in this business because a lot of papers quite frankly are going to die. But I do want to start by saying a lot of people who like the forty Niners have read you and sought you out for years, even though you didn't work in San Francisco San Jose, you worked in Sacramento, but I think he got a very wide following of true forty Niner fans because you're so incredibly plugged in. You know this team, well, you'll live and breathe it in a lot of ways during the season. So I want to ask you about your decision to go from the Sacramento bee to the athletic because so many sports writers all over the United States are having that decision to make now. So explain to people why you would go from, you know, a very prominent newspaper, good newspaper to a pay site that if people don't pay for it, they're not going to be able to read mad Barros. Well, first of all, I love newspapers and I love the Sacramento bee, and I initially declined the Atlantic's offer. They came at me a year ago at this time and I decided you know what at rather stay with the newspaper. I thought very hard about it and you and I discussed it at the time and I decided to stay. They came back at me again in the spring, and it happened to be at a time when the be went through. Yet another contraction more firings, more layoffs and that affected the the sports department. And it has over the years when I first started covering the forty Niners in two thousand and three, we had eighteen writers not not eighteen employee's in sports. We had eighteen sports writers. The latest contraction winnow that down to three. I was one of the three..