President Trump, Washington, Congress discussed on Politics


Bring students to Washington, they meet with Brian lamb, the founder of I think they've even met with you a couple of times, and they go, and they, you know, they get this pastiche of what is Washington, for instance. I had never done in the first two years of the program. Steve a discussion about intelligence until nine eleven. I never had to discussion about Ukraine until about two years ago. So it's kind of a little bit of current events and things, and so I think what you're talking about here in this. This clipper went to play. This was a discussion which I thought was worthy about covering social Washington. Social Washington is a very much part of the coin of the realm in DC. And so I thought that would be a worthy conversation. This is Chuck Conconi at the time with Washingtonian magazine. Let's listen one person who really came to the city of knew how to use it. I watched he had his wife Maureen orth who was a writer for Vanity Fair magazine. And I used to joke. God they show up at the opening of an envelope. They were everywhere. Kevin successes deserved. There's no question about that. But there is this great story, which is true. Right. After Clinton was elected president I time, and there was a party of Pamela, Harriman's house enjoys how for the incoming administration a lot of power brokers and people like that. Timothy's wife showed up. There is an elegant parties elegant house great buffet, everything you could imagine a drink moved out and moved around the room either picked up a glass of anything to drink. Neither of them picked up a slightest. Our smallest order because they were working that room later at the end of the evening. They stopped at a place that Wisconsin avenue called hamburger hamlet, but they had something and went over there notes of what they had learned what kind of contacts they made that they knew that. That was the most. They could have been there and all of all the people who were there. But they weren't they were working the room. Chad pergram, the Fox News channel is that how Washington works the late. Tim russert Washington is transactional. But I think that most things in life are transactional. Your your church or your country club. Whatever it is you you you you deal with you. It's who you have relationships with. And so that's why it on Capitol Hill. I don't go to a lot of parties. Frankly, to be honest with you, I I don't I don't do that. I haven't been to the radio TV correspondents dinner actually in several years. I I, and I've never been to the White House correspondents dinner, frankly, I used to be even on the RTC aboard. But I haven't been in several years. I do think that it can it can be transactional in that sense. But with that's why when I don't have anything specific that I'm working on Capitol Hill. I just go walk around the capital because inevitably I will observe something. I will see somebody or I will run into somebody who I haven't met before. And like I said this big freshman class. I did that just the other day. You know, they don't know their ways around the Bill. Hi, I'm Chad. From FOX here where you're trying to go. Oh, I know where that is here to adopt again to H one twenty-five, which is a room in the that sort of thing. So that's transactional. But then they remember you I would much rather engage that way then at a party with canapes and wine and all those types of things at whatever works for people. That's that's fine. But I think that that I would rather be closer there. Then kind of do it in that that that social scene of that Conconi talked about some years ago. You are like the mayor of Capitol Hill. I don't know about that. I've been there awhile. But, but it's important to know that it is a line in the music, man. You got to know the territory, we you have to know the territory, and that's where. Let's go back. You asked a few minutes ago about the peace on the contingent election. I didn't know yesterday. I was going to get asked a question about a contingent election. I knew in two thousand sixteen that that could be an issue and I knew because if that's in my wheelhouse. I better know about it. In fact, there was there was something that had come up about a procedural issue in the Senate a few weeks ago. And I knew it was going to come up, and I made sure that I went and talked to the appropriate people, and even some some people who weren't there anymore to make sure I was thinking about it. Right. And frankly, that's I'd like to think that's good journalism. I didn't even rely on what I think is right or what I know with my own knowledge. I went to these folks sources and said, here's what I what I believe is the case in my correct now turns out I was, but that's what good journal you go. Then check with the experts, which is what I did. Another example was the question a couple of weeks ago about what can the president just show up and speak? For state of the union. Well, congress always pays passes both the house and Senate concurrent resolution, which authorizes him to come into the chamber authorizes the house and Senate to meet in the same place for state of the union. I had I've seen these past on the floor usually by voice vote on the house. I've never read one never read one to last week never had to read one. I called up a bunch of them. I read through them to make sure I understood it. And then someone said well can't the president because it says an article to section three of the constitution. And that's where the term state of the union is derived from time to time the president shall provide information to congress on the state of the union. Also there talks about him. Can recall the congress convened either or both houses if necessary. Well, again, I went and talked to people because I said this is important. This is what's is important to know the numbers, but get to understand the staff and the police officers in the custodian there's some everybody up there has part of the story. And so I said all right. The last time this happened was forty seven and forty eight Harry Truman did this. But the house and Senate have to be in a very special parliamentary stature they have to be out. Not like an germ the August recess or Christmas or something that wasn't that wasn't going to be the parliamentary stash so the president couldn't call them back. And even if he did he still doesn't have the right to speak. But what I did is. I went and got the house rulebook house. Ru four there's a list of about twenty five people. And I read it on the air. In fact, there's a picture of a holding up the house rulebook Jefferson's manual pointing out all the different people who can come who have floor privileges in the house chamber. One of them is the president United States doesn't say he can speak though, he can go into the house chamber. He cannot speak. Though, unless they passed that concurrent resolution, so that's why it's important to have just not sources with legislative people a number. But no all the other people as well. Let me conclude. That's fascinating, by the way with a policy question. If we were to sit here a year from now looking at this off year election one year of the one hundred sixteenth congress legislatively. What do you think they will accomplish? There are questions about if this conference committee sets the table for that. In other words, that it's nothing, but as one reporter put it the other day to Sonny where a black hole that they don't accomplish this. It really sets a bad tone for everything because you do have a divided congress, which we don't always have houses democratic senate's Republican that said if they're able to get together on something that's possible. When Pelosi called the president when they were working out the details of speaking arranging state of the union, she said that she had talked to him about other things that they could work together on the Obiqua this infrastructure Bill, which we've heard about for years in Washington. You know, there's this running joke in Washington, Steve that it infrastructure week this week. And then it never happens. We'll see what the president says it stayed the unit with infrastructure. I do think that there's an opportunity for that. Here's the other thing that I have seen in a lot of folks who've been her an observed that when you get through a crisis. That it creates opportunities do something big. In other words, we've been through this big thirty five days shutdown crisis and sober heads. Then start to prevail and say, okay, let's let's get something done. Now. Oftentimes that entails an event something that compels action. But you know, we saw that in two thousand eleven a lot of people don't like this. But they you know, they had the imposed sequestration which is this mandatory set of cuts, which they're still dealing with. But they worked something out because they had this crisis with the debt ceiling in two thousand eleven. When you come off the shutdowns of ninety five ninety six with President Clinton, and Newt Gingrich guess what they worked out a major with a capital M spending deal, which really changed the trajectory for a long time in Washington, really till nine eleven and and welfare reform major deal between Clinton and Gingrich. And a lot of people might argue that Bill Clinton came out looking better from that. Newt Gingrich was never the same politically after the shutdowns, but it produce something. And so there is the school of thought that if you can set the table with some success with this conference committee and get something through maybe there's something there. And here's the other point that I'll leave you with on that score. You have all these new freshman, mostly Democrats who they're a different breed. They've not been part of Washington. They haven't really been some of them have never been in office before. In the military. Yes. Also from the military and that brings a different viewpoint to this as well. And the fact there was one member I was talking about he was very upset that congress wasn't in session. He said in the military. What you do is you get everybody together. And you know, you say we have this crisis. We're not gonna we gotta figure this out. Okay. And that's a very interesting viewpoint. So that might be a dynamic that hasn't fully been explored yet because this is not like other freshman classes, and the demand from both sides, the Democrats and Republicans in that freshman class might say, we have to do something and do something different and very briefly, the Chad pergram biography, you mentioned Miami university of Ohio where did you grow up, and how did you first come to Washington? Jackson Burgo high which is east of Oxford smallest incorporated village in the state population of fifty two it has both political and journalistic background neither which I have a darn thing to deal with across the road is the home of James, m Cox. Where he grew up was the two congressman governor of Ohio democratic nominee for president in nineteen twenty with FDR lost a Warren Harding, most candidates that you're from Ohio. He was a newspaper, man. And you've heard of Cox newspapers broadcasting Cox cable, Cox enterprises that Tim so that's that's that's Cox and Jackson. Berg Jackson, burglar, Ohio. I had finished my master's degree at Miami. Borton public radio at the public radio station there in college for this part of my I didn't teach a class. I worked at the radio. That was my that was my deal to be a reporter and anchor their afternoon news program before all things considered on NPR. And I said done this for six seven years starting when I was in high school, different radio and TV jobs. And I was like, well, I was always interested in politics. And there was this guy who I covered this this. Crazy congressional race in nineteen ninety. And I was wondering what happened to this guy. This guy was this unpronounceable name. But it was really kinda my first introduction to deposit guy named bainer who was the local congressman and one in a crazy upset there was a major political scandal which has got him in..

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