Senator, Dr Phil Knight, Cheryl Kirshenbaum discussed on Bill Cunningham


Knight. Welcome back everyone. Gerry brisson? Dr Phil Knight here wrap up this edition of food for thought that was Cheryl Kirshenbaum our guest, Jerry and while. Yeah, she's great. I mean, again, I'm just amazed at how many smart people care about this issue and are making a difference and are working hard. So that we can do better. I mean, I really like what she's doing how she's doing it and the level of intelligence that she puts to everything she does is she's amazing. And I'm glad she's our friend and doing a great job there at MSU, and and hosting the the our table discussions traveling around the state, and it's pretty cool deal. I mean, that's a literal table that they carved out of a fallen tree from the MSU campus, and they're taking it around the state and having a town hall, and she's leading those discussions, and and great to have our friend and an expert that we can call on here. Food for thought. So. We've got taken about the broader question that we talked with Cheryl about about policy that is evidence based and how that affects us and how it should be created rather than from any other stance other than than a scientific evidence based data. We we've we've seen a little bit of a hit that's gone on here during the for the food banks in the state of when tax credits were taken away about eight years ago. But there is a Bill that is before the house and is moving through the Senate, and we'll move to a four vote fairly soon that would restore those tax credits on behalf of the food banks, and that's house Bill number six four three three. So you did a little math figuring there. And I think it's I think it's indicates how good policy can affect our work. Well, you know, we talk a lot about ROI. So let's just really look at the return on investment on that tax credit. You've got what the tax credit is. It's a one hundred dollars for an individual two hundred dollars for a married couple. And so it's a credit, which means if you if you give money to food Bank. You get a hundred dollars of that money back in a state tax credit, which means that hundred dollars cost you nothing. But what did it give? Well, it gave on average based on what food banks do for every dollar six hundred meals. And if it's a married couple that's twelve hundred meals, and it costs the consumer nothing. Now, does it cost the state something? Sure it does. But when you think about that hundred dollars providing six hundred meals or the two hundred dollars providing twelve hundred meals that's going right back into making people healthy productive and successful. It helps the state it's good for the individuals. And it's a tremendous help to the food banks as you said, Phil only half the problem is solved. It is one of the least costly most effective things we can do to drive success for our state. Well, and treasury scored this Bill and it really costs. State. So when you look at the whole selection of bills, it's is is bills that affect foodbanks homeless shelters and community foundations when they scored this Bill, it was only going to cost the state around seventeen million dollars total for all three of those. So now, somebody says, hey, seventeen million dollars a lot of money. Not in perspective of the state budget is really not that much money. They're not gonna miss it. But it's going to do so much good for our hungry neighbors and our communities and our education and our healthcare and for workforce retention. It's a win win win win win. And it's how government and private nonprofits can work affectively together. Right. It's a policy that puts the work where the work can be done cheapest and best and it the choice is up to the individual. So there it's nothing. Anyone has to do. It's something that people can do. And if they do it. It it makes a huge impact for the people in our state. So I know it's it's a little bit of a selfish plug on the radio show today. But nonetheless, it's an important Bill. We wanna make sure people know about it and support it because it will make a tremendous difference in our goal to have a food secure Michigan. Yeah. Call Email syndicate pigeon. Whatever you gotta do is house Bill six four three three and that would support and restore the tax credit for food banks that was taken away about eight years ago. So Jerry what's on tap for next week? We're going to keep this conversation about evidence based policy going pretty strong. We got the emergency food assistance program, and some changes that we are hoping are gonna come about their to make things better and our community stronger. We're going to talk about how tariffs has created an opportunity for food banks through trade mitigation food. I know. Wow. That's sounds really. Sexy. It's riveting and then last we're going to talk about ways, we're working with the Michigan department of education with a couple of school districts around. How are we making food security more possible for kids in school all very much evidence based and all having absolutely to do with policy? Hey, I'm interested. I'll be here. So it's great. So I guess it's time for a little food for thought. Some years ago, I was discussing with the policy director of United States Senator why I believe the Senator should vote a certain way on a specific Bill. I laid out my reasoning in a logical manner. I was sure to include the senators own language and phrases as I framed, my reasoning the young man who had tremendous responsibility on the Senator staff and was under a great deal of stress because he was the one who would have to convince the Senator to change his mind looked up at me interrupted me and said stop fill don't confuse me with the facts. And therein lies the problem. Don't confuse me with the facts the great American. Scientists Isaac Asimov said there's a cult of ignorance in the United States. And there always has been the strain of anti intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge. I think we should scrutinize our policymakers at many levels and one of those is candidate be moved to do. What is right best and true when presented by solid evidence based data can they cast off the shackles of dogma and move to create policy that systematically gives people a.

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