Hugh Culverhouse, Alabama, University Of Alabama discussed on All Things Considered


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Interference also today judiciary chairman, Jerry Nadler announced a breakthrough in talks with the Justice department to hand over evidence Muller used to draw his conclusions NPR. Congressional correspondent Susan Davis joins us now on the latest from Capitol Hill and. Let's start with that agreement reached between the judiciary committee, end DOJ. What are the terms? So in a statement judiciary chairman Jerry Nadler, said that DOJ agreed to turn over in his words key evidence that was used in its investigation over whether or not President Trump obstructed Justice. We don't know explicitly what this evidence is. It's always important to remember that Muller, did not draw a conclusion on whether or not the president of structed Justice in the report made a point to say the president was not exonerated on this front and kind of turned it over to congress for their oversight capabilities, now there's said, this evidence, should start coming over as early as today. He said every member on the panel will be able to view it, and it will continue to be part of their ongoing investigation. If there is a deal will Democrats call off that vote tomorrow to hold attorney general bar in civil contempt. No, it's still on. It's really important to make a distinction here, though. So the judiciary did back in may the committee is they did vote to hold bar in contempt of congress. That is not what's going to be coming to the floor tomorrow. Oh, would Democrats are bringing to the floor tomorrow, essentially authorizes, the judiciary committee to fight the attorney general and other people administration in civil court to enforce their subpoenas? It's a type of civil contempt now they're says if bar and DOJ complies with this request that you're not going to have to take that route, but they're not gonna take the pressure off. The resolution also applies to former White House counsel, Don Mcgann and testimony and documents. They're seeking from him. I also think it's important to see this view. This vote happening tomorrow is, you know, a bit about politics. Democrats are still pretty divided over whether to move four four four word formerly with an impeachment inquiry. It does give Democrats chance to go on the record and say they are doing something to hold this administration. Accountable is not legally necessary in order to fight it in the courts. But it does give them a little bit. In the meantime, the judiciary committee launched its oversight investigation into Robert Muller's report, then we turn on C span and. Basically, we see the former Nixon White House counsel, John dean. I mean he was a key witness in the Watergate scandal, testifying. So why did they call him? You know, they're clearly trying to draw a parallel here between Nixon what Nixon was to Watergate Democrats are saying Muller could be to President Trump. Dean did invoke Watergate and saying that the mullahs report could be seen as a quote roadmap for impeachment. This is a term that was used for a secret report that was written by Watergate prosecutor Lee under war ski, who provided a report to the House Judiciary committee, that kind of said, here's the case. Now, you go, make it the top Republican on the committee, Doug Collins, he's a Republican from Georgia kind of made the point about the this panel of hearings is so what right. Like none of the witnesses at the hearing today were involved in the Miller investigation. There was also a couple of former federal prosecutors that testified, there were not substantial. Quickness witnesses in the investigation into either the interference or the administration. It wasn't that dissimilar Collins said to listening to people on a cable news panel talk about what they think should happen. We should note, the dean is off syncing on cable news talking about this very matter. But it does it is also serves as a reminder that Democrats have had a hard time getting people in the Trump administration to come up and testify about the Miller report. They really struck out so far. So this is in some ways seen as the best they could do as a starting point. Now they're says he's still confident. Bob Muller is gonna come up and testify before the committee in public. Even though Muller has said he does not want to do that, Jerry Nadler has not ruled out using a subpoena, if he won't, but he still says he's not willing to go there, just yet. That's NPR. Congressional correspondent Susan Davis. Thank you. You're welcome. The biggest donor in the history of the university of Alabama says the school is choosing, quote zealotry over the wellbeing of its students. The donor is Florida businessman Hugh Culverhouse last year. He pledged twenty six and a half million dollars to the university on Friday. The board of trustees voted to give it back all the money. He's given so far and to remove his name from its law school. The reason his objections to Alabama's controversial new law banning nearly all abortions in the state, at least that is the reason according to covert house. The university says it was Culverhouse's desire to influence hiring firing at admissions on campus. And the university has released emails showing the return of covert houses gift was under consideration days before he waited on abortion, Culverhouse wrote about all this, in an op-ed published by the Washington Post, and he spoke with us today about it. I asked him, why thinks the decision was tied to history. On abortion. I the time second time third. The timing and the timing as you see it was what all the time. It was a matter of hours, my press. Release came out, and with a short period of time the chancellor statement came out, and which he said, he was returning the money and he said the day before they had decided to return the money. I don't believe that I believe it say it decided to return money. They would have returned it before. I just wanna make sure I understand. So you're saying you made public remarks laying out how clearly you disagree with the Alabama state law on abortion, and that after that the university said, here's all your money. Take it back. Thanks. Thanks cora. So reconcile that with this Email that I'm looking at, I'm looking at a copy of an Email dated Saturday, may twenty fifth it's from you to the president of the university of Alabama Stewart bell subject line return of ten million dollars paid in advance. You're, you're asking for money back. This. This was an Email dated five days before your public remarks on abortion. Yes. Can I explain that please? Okay. Ten million dollars was money. I had paid in advance of the schedule. It was not asking to be paid back. Twenty one and a half. It was my statement that you have not spent any money at twenty one and a half million dollars some of the money being there for twenty months if you're going to sit there and not do scholarships and professorships then return the ten million advanced and I'll pay it back to you over the schedule. I suppose the broader point being without getting deep into the weeds of what check was dated win there appears to be a paper trail, documenting disagreement and rancor that predates, your public remarks on abortion. Well, the issue I had the big issue was I've felt class. Sizes. We're too small. They were denying to Alabama students access. But at some point the denegrate increase the starting class, eight percent that result, major issue. It sounds as though you believe that with your money with your gift should come some say into how the law school is run, sure. You look at my speech when it was announced a clearly stated I intend to be in mentally and ball. I'm not giving the money that my name on a building, none of the money I've ever given as way. I don't give for buildings. I'm sure it's crossed your mind, Mr. Culverhouse that the, the losers here are going to be the current and future students of the university of Alabama. In say it, my whole goal is to create a middle class, because we are losing the middle class is becoming the upper lower class. I'm fortunate my dad worked dioramas. We weren't born into money, but we worked our way into. Everybody should have that same chance that I did. He did. Hugh Culverhouse the Florida real estate investor who gave twenty six and a half million to the university of Alabama talking with us. There about schools decision to give it back, Mr. Culverhouse. Thank you. Thank you very much. For more on this. We turn to NPR's, Debbie Elliott in orange beach Alabama. Hi, deb. Hello, hello. So two points, one for the sake of disclosure. I should mention you are a university of Alabama grad true second. What does the university have to say about covert houses allegations of retaliation? Well the university's position is that Culverhouse is somehow trying to rewrite history by injecting, quote, one of society's most emotional divisive issues in quote into what was the abortion law into what was really a dispute over his attempts to influence academic policy? And, you know, Culverhouse has been getting a lot of national press since he called on students to boycott. University on may twenty ninth that was two weeks after the governor signed that abortion man into law. And now as you noted before the interview with, with Culverhouse we know from E mail records released by the school that covers house himself had I asked for some of that donation back. Well before that. Right. And you've looked at all that Email evidence that I was coming through today as well. What left out you. Well, I think the fact that days before Culverhouse called for the boycott. There was this E mail traffic that the chancellor and attorneys had decided to return his donation and take his name off of the law school. Now that Email chain also included, some of Culverhouse's missives to school officials. He was trying to have a say in who was hired for a constitutional law professorship named for him. And he belittled, the dean of the law school as in several emails, I'm going to, quote, one of them, he said that this dean, quote would always be a small town insecure, dean, and that outside. Side world frightens him. Now I spoke with a law. Professor who says, faculty, the Alabama law school had concerns about Culverhouse's efforts long before this dispute that his efforts to intervene, and academic policy date back, as far as February, this professor, also questioned why the university of Alabama should take the blame for a law passed by state lawmakers when several professors at the law school had spoken out against the abortion ban. So I think the broader question here is how much control does a mega donor deserve. Right. Indeed. And two very different and conflicting views on that it sounds like playing out there in Alabama NPR's, Debbie Elliott. Thanks so much. You're welcome..

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