Jim Fallow, Amanda, Watertown discussed on Slate's Political Gabfest


It doesn't actually feel very healthy at a certain point like it sort of feels like we're having the same conversation over and over and just getting more and more angry and upset when I go out. And you know, thank God for my job. Requires me to actually talk across. Divides. And when I actually talked to people, even when I really some of what they say offends me when I get to know them and talk to them, I feel like I'm seeing more clearly in a sense. I'm seeing more of the full picture. And it's it is it is like it's like I like myself better in that state. If that makes sense sounds a little mushy. But Amanda, what did you make of the finding that forty five percent of Democrats and thirty five percent of Republicans say they'd be unhappy if their child married someone from the opposite party does that mean, the Democrats are less tolerant than Republicans. That's the first question. The second is faith and forgiveness. Do you think that you you talk about that? Do you think that the decline in the practice of religion has changed? This people have less tolerance with the obvious caveat that many of the people who are least tolerant and particularly with respect to treating other people. Like, they also are God's children happen to be people who are outwardly quite. Religious. And then I'll I'll not ask you three questions. Yeah. I mean, I think to take the second question. I I think it depends on the on the church, and or the religious the faith and the leaders of that organization, right? Like there are there are houses of worship that really make the case for humility for curiosity for forgiveness for mercy and grace to the extent that those places have become less salient in people's lives. I think that is a huge loss. But like you say there are lots of other examples that do not practice and preach humility and grace, particularly around abortion and sexuality. So so it's a tough question to answer. I think as a country we could stand talk a lot more about humility about the perils of vanity. So that's that doesn't have to come from a religious faith. But it it might be more salient. If it did. And then I'm so glad you asked about the ACM etry that we saw in that recent survey by PRI in the Atlantic where forty five percent of Democrats and thirty five percent of Republicans said they'd be unhappy if their kid married someone from the opposite party. Now, the big headline here is that this is a huge change for both sides in one thousand nine hundred sixty five percent of both groups who said they would be upset about this. This is like a really important data point because it is something we studied around race and ethnicity in. Engine for very long time. And now there's been a huge shift. Other research has found the opposite that it's Republicans who are more upset about Democrats are analysis in this case found that Republicans seemed to dislike Democrats more than Democrats dislike Republicans. So I kind of buried this in the story because I'm not sure what to make of it. Honestly. And I didn't want to just add to the finger pointing of like, oh, see we knew they hated us more than we because the big picture is both sides are hitting the other side more than before. Also. There's also a funny thing that's happening in potent a funny thing, but it's been having for a while. But also, depending on the poll self identified Republicans, a lot have shifted from Republican into independent, and so you can have a self identified. Republican core that is differently Representative of the conservative core than Democrats to the liberal core. So it's depending on the poll self-identification can tweak these numbers. One other quick question. Jim fallow has this theory that he that he and Deb came up with when they wrote their book about visiting town healthy towns out in the country, and they had a either a rough or an iron clad. I can't remember rule which was that healthier the community the less. They talked about national politics. Does that where does that fall? And this is obviously an example of one. So it doesn't, but I just wonder whether where that fits with respect to the way you see Watertown. I think that's a great point. I wish I had made that point..

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