Virgin Islands, Ginger Ism, Dwayne Francis discussed on A Way with Words: language, linguistics, and callers from all over


Someone has been unfaithful as a spouse? Oh. Yeah. That's what I meant. That's where the recessive gene comes in because it skips generations. And so if you don't understand genetics, you might think that your spouse has been cheating on you or sleeping around. You don't have red hair and the redheaded baby is born. But also, Martha, did you know this that sometimes red haired people were seen as unlucky? Oh, sure. Yeah, you might have avoided them like you avoid a black cat? Yeah, there was superstitions, yeah. Martha, you mentioned the late 1800s for this, but there were some other versions of it back then, too, right? Yeah, I'm looking at a newspaper from 1899 that refers to somebody as being as sad as a red headed cross eyed stepchild. You know, it's that child who's a little bit different from the rest of the family. So, yeah, redheads have dealt with a lot over the years. They've dealt with Ginger ism as it's called, you know? Just have stereotypes. We're coming out of that a bit, though. I do feel like my redhead has not been picked on. It's been more embraced. And even the freckles have been embraced as being different and unique. So I'm hoping that's all changing. That's wonderful. I think Harry Potter probably had something to do with that. Weasley's, you know? Part of the reason tribe was seen as a strength. Wow, well, thank you so much. Thank you, Megan. We really appreciate your call. Give our best to your family, all right? Bye bye. 8 7 7 9 two 9 9 6 7 three email words at wayward radio dot org. Hello, you have a way with words. Hi, my name's Dwayne Francis I'm in New York and my question is what is the meaning of the word karate? Toronto? Yes. It's a word I learned. From my parents, they're from the USVI. The United States Virgin Islands. And it's a word that my mother and her siblings would use. And it would refer to I'm not talking much concern about the meaning of both the origin that they use it to refer to like clutter. And I can't figure out where this word comes from or how it's properly spelled or the only significance that it has. Clutter. Okay. And how would you spell that if you had to spell it? Oh, well, I guess, and I would say CAR UTP LE. That was just guessing, but I can't find it anywhere. That's about right. It does appear in a couple of dictionaries of Virgin Islands language. There's one by Kareem Nelson hull, the virgin island dictionary. And he has an entry for it, and he calls it a collection of items seemingly junk that is placed where it is causing an obstruction or making an area unsightly. And he spells it COR T oh. And then there's another entry on the website of Christian dictionary dot com by Robyn Stearns. She has an intrigue that's very similar for that. The spelling is LE. Missing that last O. And it's very similar. And I have a theory on where that comes from. And this goes back to a dictionary of Jamaican English published by Fred Cassidy and Arby Lepage. And in this book, they talk about a word from new world Spanish carrot tos, I guess I shouldn't have trilled that are. It's carotid. And that means stuff missed the latest things are junk. And it's used in Puerto Rico and Venezuela and other Spanish speaking countries around the Caribbean. Wow. There's also a word in Jamaican other Caribbean countries that mean junk or miscellaneous things or stuff that are very similar carotid karrueche kuroko and tons of different spellings that are all pretty similar, not exactly like they're all missing that L, for example that are very similar to corrupt. Wow. Well, thank you so much. I would have never made that connection with the Spanish type of things. Yeah, because you know, you know, the virgin honeys, it's got all those layers of English. It's got, of course, it's got the English. It's got a little bit of Spanish. It's got a little bit of French, a little bit of Danish, it's got the African heritage. Dwayne I'm wondering about the sense in which you use it. Is it a really negative sense or is it just kind of mild, you know, I got a little bit of clutter on my desk or is it no was used when if mom walked in in the room was in disarray, you were going to hear that word. Coronal. Oh, yes. Did you have a light accident? She'd be like, I can't. I can't work in all this column. You know, you have to keep all this corrupt up, you know? Who? I always loved the virgin island as accident. It always made me feel warm. There was something home like about it. Another theory is that there's just a bit of catheters here where the consonant sounds in clutter where rearrange to give us karate. So that's what metathesis means where sounds swap in a word. Like bird used to be bred and exactly used to be dripped. Exactly. Metathesis. Oh, okay. But anyway, that's the best I have to offer you. And I appreciate you. Thank you both so much. Our pleasure. Thanks for calling. Thanks for calling. Take care now. All right, you too. Bye bye. YouTube bye bye. Bye bye. Bye. We talk about English from all over the world, and we'd love to hear what's going on in your corner of it. Call us 8 7 7 9 two 9 9 6 7 three or send your questions and stories about language to words that wayward radio dot org. Support for way with words comes from Jack and Caroline Raymond. Proud sponsors of wayward Inc, the nonprofit that produces and distributes this program. You're listening to a way with words. The show about language and how we use it. I'm grant Barrett. And I'm Martha Barnett. Grant, as you know, my mom was a public school teacher for 25 years in my hometown of Louisville, Kentucky. And Laura was a city with a long history of racial segregation. And in 1975, Louisville began court ordered busing to desegregate the schools, and this was a really tense time. So my mom welcomed her new nervous 7th graders from all over the city with an odd bit of homework. She said, go out and find me a black and white and yellow caterpillar. She wanted them to focus on their weird teacher and this unexpected task rather than on themselves in each other. And sure enough one of them found a caterpillar and brought it in. And the kids put it in this big container with a branch of milkweed leaves, which monarch caterpillars like to eat. And over the next few days, the students watched as it attached to one of those leaves and hung down in that J shape that they do. And then form this beautiful blue green case called a chrysalis. And inside that case, the caterpillar's body broke down into a chemical soup. And a few days later, it reformed as a butterfly. And the kids got to watch it emerge and dry its wings and together when it was ready, they set the butterfly free. That first homework assignment became a yearly tradition in room two ten. And the kids learned the words metamorphosis from the Greek for change form. And they also learned the word chrysalis, which comes from the Greek word for gold. Because the case of some butterfly chrysalis or gold and on a monarch chrysalis, it's got these gorgeous gold dots. And the Greek word Chris sauce meaning gold also gives us the word chrysanthemum, which means golden flower. We lost my mom way too early, almost three decades ago. But you know, when I run into her former students, I still hear about those butterflies. And this is why this week I was over the moon grant to find my first ever monarch caterpillar in the wild. I was so excited..

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