Donald Trump, Republican Party, ROE discussed on The Ezra Klein Show

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This gets into more recent work I've been doing with Daniel Shaw's men at at Johns Hopkins, you know, he identified a huge gap between Republican elites and what their policy agenda is and what issues Republican elites care about and rank and file Republican voters. And he identified that gap. He. Gave Republican voters exactly the positions they wanted rhetorically during the election in. So in that sense, he sort of bucked a lot of the trends we had seen increasingly polarizing politics Trump in office generally speaking, the policy agenda, you see coming out of congress, certainly what you're seeing the people that are going to supreme court now doesn't look much different from what Ted Cruz or or Jeb Bush administration would have been. I think the power at the elite level of the conservative coalition and donor networks and the Republican establishment and their agenda, particularly on economics Trump has been more than happy to just give away the store to them, give the keys of legislative power to Paul, Ryan and etcetera. To me, one of the things they're your book is about polarization. Both in theory practice among party elites and and I think this speaks to a problem we have when we talk about polarization just in general, which is that we speak about it in the singular. There is political polarization monk parties among party elites among voters among the public. There's polarization that is about ideology that is about identity. There's polarization that is positive. There was polarization that is negative negative partisanship I think does more actually to explain Donald Trump than partisans if you want to know how the Republican party consolidated, the actually isn't Donald Trump. It's Hillary Clinton, right? And I think we have trouble with this because we've not given these things really different terms. I think of Donald Trump is very much a product of polarization, but not a video logical polarization I think of him as a product of and I know these ideas bleed into each other, but the sorting of different groups and group identity and right. The polarization we have moved apart from each other in who we are. And so you know, we look across the divide and see more difference, and that can create a kind of polarization too. And it always strikes me as interesting with Donald Trump has managed to do if you just step back from the whole thing is his actual tenure in office has managed to combine the thing that turned out Republican party voters felt most strongly about with the thing that Republican party leads felt very strongly about Republican party voters felt very strongly about group identity about nationalism rhino about a collection of identities that have to do with racial and demographic and nationalistic change. And he's really held that. I mean, Trump on immigration is who he promised to be more or less Trump on trade is who he promised to be more or less Trump on talking about NFL players. Kneeling on the field is who he promised to be more or less right. But then if you go to the thing that had been the project of party elite polarize IRS, which is low taxes, overturning Roe appointing judges who might overturn Roe or who. Very skeptical about the administrative state about ObamaCare Trump has been completely on their side. So he seems to me to identified instinctually or not like what both groups actually cared about the most. Right. And so as a managed to retain a union between the two of them even wall, he's doing some things he promised each one he wouldn't do. I think that's totally right. I think you know, there are certain things Trump could have done, or people could have responded differently to that would test some of that. I mean, it's worth remembering that he did actually go out of his way during the primary to say, unorthodox things about the Republican economic agenda. So to to say, I'm the only one up here who's gonna protect Medicaid, Medicare and social security implying is going to raise taxes on hedge funders. I think it's notable that he felt compelled instinctually to lie about that stuff that one way of mobilizing..

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