Listen: Kellogg Pence, Donald Trump, Hunter Biden discussed on The Young Turks
"Tick tick tick tick. Okay all right listen. Listen they're now L. sexual was spot on So pence definitely trying to escape by on this but trump made him a henchman. Henchman is you're about the see so he can't skate on it and And now he's having to go all in and of course the president as usual made them walk the plank plank and now he's out there defending the president so that he's just as culpable as as trump is and if if trump thought he could get away with it by blaming claiming pence like Ukraine. Getting dirt on the BINZ got another one. That was my pets like you think he wouldn't do that he'd do that do that. Except he's now incriminated himself publicly so many times and his whole response to this impeachment. Investigation is like yeah. Yeah Yeah that's what I did. That's what right did because I I want to. I want to drain the swamp right so he can't blame pence for it but what I think trump likes to do is drag everyone down with him hundreds and that's what I was is giving up so Since there's no way that he could fully deflect the pence then why is he doing it he's just saying like no. I want everyone defending offending me. Because if you don't I'm GonNa drag all of you down with me and make sure because what he cares about the Republican Party. Hey here's my principles. He cares about his colleague. Mike Pence his partner vice-president. No the only thing that Donald trump ever cares. Here's about is Donald Trump. So he's gotTA kill everybody on the way down politically within the Republican Party. He'll do it in a second but that's eventually what's going to cost them the presidency because enough Republican senators are GonNa go. This guy's GonNa kill us all man politically. So what's the point of saying with him. We haven't gotten to that taking point yet tick tick all right well let me give you Some more detail. Into what trump actually had pence do prior to us finding out about this whole whistle blower lower complaint according to the Washington. Post trump instructed pence not to attend the inauguration of Ukrainian President Vladimir Zielinski in May an event White House officials had pushed to put on the vice president's calendar when Ukraine's new leader was seeking recognition and support for Washington. So you have White House officials pushing pens to do this but at the same time simultaneously you have donald trump telling pens. No don't do it. It's bad idea did you. Don't go to the inauguration and pence didn't go to inauguration okay now that's relevant because it's part of trump's ploy to make this this new Ukrainian President Ben to His will and essentially carry out favors for him right because remember Ukraine needs the US to assist them In this military eight let me give you more detail now instead of traveling to Kim as he was supposed to pence was supposed to For this may thirtieth Inauguration pence actually attended trump campaign in Jacksonville. Florida and made An official trip to Canada later that month now months later the president used used pence to tells the lead ski that. US aid was still being withheld. While demanding more aggressive action on corruption the Ukrainians probably understood action action on corruption to include the investigation of former vice president. Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden so when pence finally did meet with Celeski Alinsky and this was on September first. Here's what happened during that conversation. Pence told Dolinsky that aid was being withheld due to corruption concerns. That's exactly what trump wanted him to do. Pence emphasized trump's frustration that the E. You should provide more aid to Ukraine. Pence didn't mention Biden but former officials claim pence hence. Mentioning corruption was code for that issue. Whether pence intended or not. Yeah I actually think that that under sells it. So involving volleying pence actually implicates trump more. Not less as usual trump do more damage to himself because he's not smart enough to figure it out because when when trump says the call the US is Does a lot of things for you guys. He doesn't mention the military. As far as we know would love to get their official transcript. Anyway he says but we do a lot of things for you guys now. I need you to do me a favor though and and investigate by but then he follows up by sending pence to say remember that corruption. We're talking about an end. The call trump clearly connects corruption to buy any any cranium in the corruption. It's not like well. You guys have this massive asser problem. Oh but you know what eleven percent is the Biden's you know. I'm worried about corruption overall. No when he does about corruption he only mentioned by okay so then he sends pence over and says now remember. We're not sure about the aid. And we wanted you to take action on corruption plume. That actually is the quid pro quo and any prosecutor cuter worth their salt. Could prove that as well there are team they say there are team and one guy says. Hey I want you to investigate Biden that's corruption I'm talking about. The next guy. Guy Says Remember that corruption we were talking about. That's why we're not giving you a done deal so like if you're trump defender no amount of facts or logic will matter to it doesn't matter you'll say on the one hand Hunter Biden. What does he know about Ukrainian gas? What is he getting paid for that cuffy corruption? When I said now it's not technically illegal legal but I actually agree that it is corruption hundred doesn't know anything about greeting guests you know why? Say That 'cause I'm a reasonable human being. I can assess the fact that a guy who doesn't know anything about Ukrainian guess fifty thousand dollars a month. Why because his last name is Biden right that when we asked you hey when trump says is investigate corruption I e Biden and then Penn says? I'm not giving you the money until you investigate corruption. Everyone knows what they're talking about. The only reason you're not in many if you're trump supporters because you're a trump supporter. You're like I don't care about other leaders say you know it you know it you know it and also. Why is your Colt leader having a very public meltdown right now? I mean he's been having a public meltdown ever. Since this whistle blower complaint became a public news. But here's the thing I think. An important part of the story is holding Vice President Mike Pence accountable and not allowing him to push this ridiculous narrative that he was insulated from all of this and he was completely unaware. Because and I'm kind of burying the lead so I'm going to share you. One of the most important parts of the story according according to Washington Post reports his own aid and one of his top aides was listening in on that call between Donald Trump and WADA. Mir's Alinsky Alinsky so The aid is Kellogg. Kellogg pence's top. National Security Advisor listened in on the call from the situation room which was the standard heard practice but did not see it as unusual or flag any concerns about it to the vice president now. That's according to aides who spoke to the Washington Post. But AH here's one other thing after. That call happened literally the day after that call happened. Pence is supposed to get a summary of the conversation. So are you telling me that he received at summary of the conversation and then proceeded to meet with Vladimir Zilenski without reading the summary of that conversation so the vice president president actually prepare for his meeting with Celeski. I don't know I'm just not buying it. Yeah I mean if it was trump a it would be much more plausible that he's like. Oh five pages. Agra trump the man child ever get through five pages but so it's a briefing. They gave to a couple of things here and then he gets his guys is on the call as anatole gets summary The call and then he gets a briefing on his way to meet Celeski. That explains to them. What it is that they want to accomplish Zilenski So they're saying the best defense pence has is. I suck my job. I never do any homework just like the boss. The boss tells me don't read anything thing. Don't study anything so I never looked at a single paper in my life. They gave me everything I needed to know. And my assistant. My System Kellogg's former general. So this like big top level guy was on the call hid. Golly Gee and so when I was breaking as he's kneecaps about the aid I just thought it was just random random holding the aid even though everybody was as the Leschi in the seemed apparently in that conversation distraught that the aide had still not been delivered deliver exactly like Golly. Gee I don't know why I don't know what corruption means I haven't and again. No one ever mentions any Ukrainian names when talk about corruption in Ukraine. I mean it was a little bit of work to hide your corruption. You have to say. Oh my God. I'm really upset about Jim. Jim Blouse Ski and and and Blouse Ski. And you're crane and also Joe Biden Hunter Biden but really I want you to clean up corruption but neither pence nor trump do that at all corruption Biden Buying by you want the aid seems like you really want to aid and they gotta look into corruption. Everybody on the planet knows what it is and even the guys who say they don't they're lying they're pretending not to realize it's super obvious.."