NHL, Kim One, Twitter discussed on 31 Thoughts: The Podcast
Elliot. We're pleased to be joined now by Kim Davis Executive, VP of social impact growth initiatives and legislative affairs for the NHL. Kim thanks so much for joining us today. You know when I look at your job title I say to myself you know this office The NHL is more important perhaps than it's ever been. Do you feel the same way? Well I think we're at a moment where? There's probably more spotlight on this work than ever before, but I hope it is a pivot point for ELA. Ration- around work that I think is going to be critical, not just to our sport, but to our nation in the world. Cume I just wanted to ask you. How are you doing? Is Interesting over the past. Seventy two hours I've had a lot of friends asked me that question, and to be honest I'm I'm really not entirely sure I think like a lot of us. I know I'm not okay. But I think at the moment. The only feeling that I can really access is exhaustion. And I say exhaustion, because I think at this moment. For me, it's unpacking I think for a lot of black people. It's unpacking the unspoken emotional toll that. Many of six cents world's. The, false world, material privilege, and the real and constant world of the systemic issues, and the truth is that if one of us is at risk, we're all at risk. So that's that's sort of what I'm feeling now. There's a number of different reactions like when I look at what's happened over the past seven or eight days in the United States I. Shake My head and I'm bewildered. Whereas a lot of people have told me that you know they're looking at this and they're nodding and they're saying this is not new. What are you doing? Well. The truth is that even though we don't have laws that separate people on the basis of race anymore. We still have customs. We have beliefs. We have policies and practices that lead to an equities, and so this is a moment. I think because of covert that we probably are paying more attention to this, but I think trevor. Noah said it best last night. It's a domino effect and I think that we may because a covert. We are just paying more attention to something that I think black and Brown people feel every day. You Know Kim I'm not a guy who believes in sending messages out on twitter. I did last night because there was something that really bothered me and you know. Some people were good with it, and some people weren't. That's the world we live in, but I'm not a big believer who, in sending things out on twitter. I think that a lot of people talk about big game, but they don't do and my grandparents who went through a lot in their lives. We're always like we don't like talk. We like action, but I wanted to ask. What do you think of that? Do you think it's enough to not tweet? Do you think we have to tweet I? I wanted to ask you your opinion on my general philosophy. I think people have to do with their comfortable with you know for some people, the expression of even just their voice showing up. in social media is advocacy for them. I think others are more introspective and contemplative I. Don't think there's any real formula I think. The bottom line is at this moment has to lead to action if a week from now a month from now a year from now we haven't taken this and moved it to a place of authentic conversation. Real advocacy and change than this moment is just another moment. You, Kim. I heard you speak last year. One thing you said really stuck with me and I wanted to bring it up and hopefully you can expand on it a little bit and I'll give you one of your quotes back to you It's not until we are comfortable with having uncomfortable conversations that we are really going to make legitimate progress. Where are we at right now? We have a long way to go with uncomfortable conversations. I am encouraged by the number of NHL players. White players is have stepped up. Fifty as of our conversation could be more. Earlier, we were fifty players. That's huge as you guys know in our sport, because it's not our culture to do that, and some of the comments have been riveting Jonathan and Tyler's tweet I think. so the question is. How do we capture this and turned into action and it's going to start with three things. I think one is listening. Right the second is being an advocate, white men in positions of power and influence, being advocates, and then the time the resources that are going to be necessary to build up these communities and advancing anti-racist work. I think those are three actionable demonstrative that have to begin to happen. Kim One of the things that's always bothered me and I think has really dissuaded people from in the NHL, specifically speaking out or stepping out of their lane, is this thing that's pounded into hockey players and I would assume athletes and other sports as well of not being a distraction Oh. Don't be a distraction. Stay in the lane is focused on the team. Don't cause a ripple in the water. It's all just about the next game. Don't worry about being part of the broader culture, we. We just WANNA, win, hockey games. You and I really think that that's that's hurt. What you're talking about and hoping to create a situation where there's more inclusiveness when you hear that phrase, don't be a distraction whether it's someone who's unsure about coming out whether it someone who's unsure about speaking out about what is happening right now in the world. What goes through your mind? When you hear, people say I. WanNa to do something but i. don't WanNa. Be a distraction to the team. I think that that is changing, and it has to change. It must change I think there's some great examples of the last seventy two hours of that. When you see the owner of the sharks, a firm of Vander and his statement I think that gives licensed to players to feel comfortable and to feel affirmed NF and supported in making statements, and frankly I think that that began to..