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Z. school that is money has been taken away from the traditional public school system is you know we're dealing with issues of teacher pay and school funding my my question is what I want to say the minds of the critics of that is okay let's say you got rid of all vouchers these kids come back to the traditional public school you're still going to hire more teachers you better to educate him so do you really get more money for school system by getting ready your voucher programs are you doing this yeah I have no principled objection to choice provided that it we are not being taxed to send our money to to religious institutions I think the and I speak as a as somebody deeply steeped in the Methodist faith it it is that is objectionable now how best to educate well the fact is I think that we had a great idea and that was were setting up of schools that are great dated up to university for an accessible to all and then we set up the university's teachers colleges like Indiana state that were producing teachers that were world leaders in their professions graduating debt free all of it supported by taxes we're not going to be able to do it on the cheap say well we're gonna just not tax ourselves and we're gonna get outstanding education by that logic and rationale can you do a program that gives parents tax credits for their education expenses regardless of what school attack a tax credit is basically handing money I I think the tax credit is is problematic I think now tax deduction that is in fact the way the system really worked very successfully after World War two taxes were high but people receive deductions by contributing to do instead to charitable institutions of that met the people was of avoided high tax rate by giving to their parochial schools so that was a way of supporting or print providing for the support of parochial schools without taxing this Hoosier here in order to deliver to the ministry over there other somebody really want on our conversation struggles right now back in American kids go to the local Catholic school there on the the voucher program they will say you know what that's all fine and good for for Krista goes in his family but he's not living in my universe right now I mean here's what I would say that first of all the the most recent studies are showing that those who have gone over from from the public schools to the private schools their math scores have suffered they have not progressed as well as those who who were their peers staring worth staying where they were that was a longitudinal study of Notre Dame the idea that they're improving their education there's no evidence for this hotel but also there the pool what what what they have a conversation with her but I want to buy one comment your more thing sure in in I've got a picture here which I'm this is show you that your your viewers will have a hard time saying that this is the nineteen oh six classes short ridge you can just see this was integrated age religion racially rich integrated education in Indianapolis before segregation and what you see or people of immense dignity kids identical in their dignity and bearing of both of both African American and white and then segregation hit and it destroyed opportunity in Indianapolis for minority races what we're talking about is publicly support of de facto religious segregation and I would contend it's going to do two religions what it did to race in India until my friend actually get together we have to continue the conversation books would give out to you now talk with the day with a good friend Chris Douglas all bye for now definitely get you back in studios we can continue this conversation all the good talk talking thank you stop by my pleasure thank you you're listening to any any issues I'm a dork composite and publisher of any politics at or well if I yourself in Indianapolis this weekend or next you may want to check out what's called bark fests as a chef professional as we find out it is not your father's Shakespeare right now though we're told us of this come up in a couple of Saturdays it is indeed part fast be A. 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D. not Martha's I know when you hear bill you think bar I understand that but this is what the Shakespeare or fast and it's our three Shakespeare shows are taking place all over it's a clear mass half of the indifference theater and join us in studio is anyone at all who is in Henry the fourth Eric Bryan who is directing hamlet and nam Macy was wrecking their shuttle so anti Erica man thank you all very much for somebody we appreciate it thank thank you Sir I should be here okay so let's start with the one that everybody's heard Eric hamlet let me guess some guys step dad kills his dad he's mad ticked off he's got a skeleton in his head so as to be or not to be then steps a little guy behind the curtains and Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are dead Abdul spoiler pretty much pretty much that see that supplied I'm actually playing Claudius in in hamlet and and choreographing the fights but yeah that's it's a classic tale it's been around people have seen it but I don't think the growth they have seen a hammock quite like this we have we've sort of affectionately started calling it not your mama's hamlet dug the the director has dug powers has sort of dusted off the script and taking a look at it from a different perspective and there's a lot of political intrigue there's a love story there's a ghost story there's the murder there's also the wordings Washington DC get Washington DC in Denmark exactly well the will but it's funny is because of what things about Shakespeare always tell people in hamlet in particular that even though all the six plays in like say your you know your fifteenth and sixteenth centuries that's just and that's a really necessary well for the play to work correct yeah yeah and you you see that in all sorts of productions I mean we'd productions are set in modern times are set in you know different continents there said in different cultures hamlet is it is is as are most of Shakespeare's works they're very timeless and they're very relevant to modern audiences now let's jump over to to man made because then you're doing Lear shadow yes and I think for most people the most on on a good day if you mention Lear the thinking king where right on a good day on a good day at we kind we refer to this as baby layer because it is basically a play within a play I play a a woman who is an artistic director of the theater and that sort of the framework I get to do Liers greatest hits really I get to do all of the big speeches it's the chance of a lifetime for for a female to get to play Lear is extraordinary now while that's the other thing too it always kind of mission people it's of the interesting about Shakespeare is the the interchangeable the of of roles in character and it's not just a bunch of white guys stand around in green tights no staring at a wall with their hands all up in the air you can actually have a little fun with that why make clear female well it's a it's not that Blair is the female but the character that I play is a female and she is doing there for several reasons with better explain within the play and you come to see that live here as he is played if he is in in the play she says you have to play him as a human being if you play him as a human being he doesn't necessarily have to be a man it's like so much of Shakespeare it's universal we are talking today to man Macy Eric Bryan and soon began in a second with any Burnet they're all participating in Indy part fast by the way in the park fence dot com I promised my favorite director Clint ops I would miss it at least twelve times on the air said eleven times yesterday so now just made my twelve obligation today any Marcus I Tober seventeenth through the twenty seventh Alex had just started a couple weeks in today's and some change by any you are in Henry the fourth that's correct which by the way no offense to hamlet and clear channel god love you and god bless you this kind of my favorite why would because I kind of play planking and out of a couple lines of general Chang from Star Trek six and the director really like the way you said it and then the next thing you know whoa I don't want to memorize by Monday off book what the hell was that all about eight hundred involved in all this I've I've known Glenn Dobbs whose are director for years and I've dabbled in theater and the the opportunity came actually all ten or so years ago to do Henry five with director Dobson fell in love with historical aspect in Glenn's ability to bring multi faceted theater all into one production as you've heard already you get everything from humor to history to the love story to the murder to the intrigue it's it's just a great combination and it makes for a very exciting as you found out knowing the productions up to this point it keeps it moving at such a fast pace it's just nothing but excitement and also the thought was really interesting plus it just kind of going to the rehearsal schedule now and the whole nine process and having not been on stage in a in a while it's not enough acting line memorization capacity is the first time I think we kind of ran like act one and so I was just amazed at how fast how quickly we put the whole thing together it just moves so fast so quickly it is not your stared decide it's not your we're great great great great great grandfather Shakespeare that seems just take for ever and ever like die hamlet already just yeah are you done how how about we just not be and call it a fricking day well this all just moves just so fast Bob so quickly so no did but we get him in the fourth and do the run through how's that for him with an earlier shadow the hamlet right now we we just we did a line through last night and it's going very quickly it's going very quickly dug his cut the script quite a bit and sort of taking out take out some parts of it that are typically not as as germane to the story but he's also brought in some some aspects of the script that in some ways people usually tend to forget about for example the the subplot of Fortin Bryce over running Denmark so it's going very quickly I I don't have an exact run time on it yet but but it does I always tell people it moves faster than you think so if you go yeah if you go you will be bored you will be kinda no not not offer you you're gonna try to wake back up it really does and we've we've done a lot to to sort of keep the action moving you know one of the things that Shakespeare is really great about wise tapping into his audiences sensibility about violence I know that there's some violence in in Henry FOR there's certainly some violence in hamlet and so you know it is for a modern audience I think that they can really identify with the action aspect of it up now to get you chime in order before take a quick break sure well our show is actually only about fifty minutes it's a modern place so half of it at least half of it is just modern language and the soliloquies that are interspersed the R. as they said they were there the the most famous and the most emotional and the most extraordinary Shakespearean language in the play so they're hardly boring and we're trying not to make them but it's only fifteen minutes and our guest today they will talk a little Shakespeare one of two what are you talking about well as some of you don't know I got Aston graciously accepted of play the role of king Henry the fourth in an indie barred fast in the Barca star com production of Henry the fourth and that along with hamlet and we're shadow they are playing over at the Indy friends of the district theater right in that corner near mass seven Sinclair on October seventeenth through the twenty seventh and so as you all know on Saturdays no the last couple of last half of the show like the kind of light things up a bit and so I asked some folks stop by so join us in studio are any Burnett who's in Henry the fourth err Brian who's plays Claudius in the fight coordinator in hamlet.

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