China, Asian American Community, Asian Culture discussed on Forum

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Hong, The number 8667336786 Again, 8667336786 You can also get in touch on Twitter and Facebook. A K Q. E d Forum or email your questions to form. Shot or GE. This is no rights. What was your reaction? When you first heard the president used the phrase China virus or Chinese virus? And what would you say to white people who continue using the phrase Oh, that's a good question, but the second when from you said Ah, China for virus. I wasn't surprised. Sadly, I was in fact expecting him, Tio enable. Ah! And kind of promote the xenophobia, But I have Tio. I want his first say that. You know, he wasn't the one who initiated. I mean, I think anti Chinese and anti Asian racism was actually pretty global. You know, I was I first heard about it in Europe it happening in Europe. You know, we're in Australia. And so when it hit the U. S, and I started hearing incidents, I thought, OK, it's only a matter of time before Trump grabs onto it and will use it to displace responsibility and pin the blame on a minority on us. Asian Americans like he always does. So I was enraged. Yes, but I was not Surprised for those Who still continues using the term. Um, if I may, you know, it isn't just white people who use it. I mean, let's be riel. I've heard it across the spectrum. Yeah. Yes. And that actually, that was what was what's been kind of Thornier actually about the anti Asian racism is that it's not It's not just white people. When you know a lot of the xenophobia was happening in cities like Oakland and New York City. I was personally attacked by someone who was Latina ts. I wasn't angry at him. I think I was more sad and I think you know I tend to have approach it differently. I think that part of it has to do with You know when I see racism between POC between by Park, Um, I You know if it's if it's if I encounter anti blackness and Asian communities, I try as hard as I can to fight against it, and I have been fighting answered by writing his book. But when I see it from other Groups. I think a lot of it also just comes from ignorance and not knowing that Asian Americans are this really tenuous alliance, you know, and I'll hear comments like Oh, well, you know, in China, they could do this in China that you do that and It's It's kind of amazing to me how little Americans know about Asia and about Asian Americans and the differences between Asia and Asian Americans. That's sort of like saying it's kind of like when blaming China for blaming an Asian American for I mean, there's so many things wrong with it, but it's like, I guess it's like, kind of like, you know, after during World War, two blaming at France for the Holocaust, you know it's just people don't understand. People just don't know about Asian America and it's It's really quite unfortunate. And as you right when you do use Chinese, you implicate all Asians because Chineses select icky for Asians the way Kleenex is for tissues as I've said, and also, you're right. Your book really does grapple with inter racial conflict as well. And anti blackness in the Asian American community, which I think is really important conversation, especially to be having Right in this moment. But the other thing that you talk about is you use the word purgatory, A ll. I think to describe sort of the status of Asian Americans in this black white finally, and I was wondering if you could expand on that a little bit. What do you mean by purgatory? A ll Well, I do buy purgatory a life. That means that you know, Asian Americans are always somewhere in between whiteness and blackness. You know, I think Americans are used to looking at rate race between the poles of lightness and blackness and Asian Americans. And maybe to a certain extent. Ah latte necks and Latin ex people as well, Somewhere kind of in between. If we look at it, historically, Asian Americans were used as a wedge, right. Ah, Where they were considered the good minorities and remodel minorities over the good minorities who never asked for handouts and so forth. And so we were used as an example to undermine symbol of the civil rights movement and you know, or you could more recent example is the L. A riots where people you know there were a lot of like up beds and people saying, Like, Oh, look at these poor created merchants who are being attacked by these Rocket brown. People look at these black people who are having these riots and so forth. And, of course, if were used as a mark minority. As a wedge, African Americans will look as present. Feli will be resentful and not think of us as allies. You know on DH. That's something that we really need to kind of. Don de mystify and work on. You know, I think I'm very much interested in building bridges between other by park That's really important to me. Let me go to listener. Poor Ian Berkeley High Port. Hey, there. Can you hear me? Ok, I can Okay, Great. So I'm a white woman that and I live in Berkeley. And I'm a big, huge fan of Margaret Show and there many other comedians that I've heard on the radio are saying who are Korean American on DH. Seems like there's a lot of kind of cultural output. And I just wondered if there was something particular to the cream, American immigrant experience or just Korean American experience. That's different ladies from like the Chinese American experience. Not that you would necessarily know that but that really, you know, to promote. From what people being more more visible or no more more attracted to, you know, being comedians and Being being out there on the on the on a kind of super cultural stage, thinks thoughts, Captain Perkins. I don't know if I would kind of describe cultural generalizations. Do I like they're more Korean American comedians rather than Chinese American comedians, or, you know, there are also a lot of Indian American comedians as well. Um, I you know, And there are lots of, you know, Think of Ali wrong. Who's Who's Chinese and Vietnamese. American s o. You know, every I would say that like, if you're an outsider, you're going tohave. You know you're if you're an outsider looking in, you might have a more trenches, acerbic view of American culture, and that could apply to anyone who is either Asian, American or indigenous and Or black or what? When, whenever I think like there's a long history of marginalized people and comedy, Because comedy is the means to just speak the truth. It's like a church in horse where you could buy kind of Hide the truth in a joke, you know, And it's a way of also of laughing away one's pain on DH. You know, there's a long black history of that. And you see that in Asian culture as well, You know, I would say that with Korean Americans, you know, we have had Ah, really hard history, You know, I mean, I come from A long history of colonization and war, and you know this little country that is now divided between North and South. I've been beaten a lot, beaten up a lot by history and you know, and there's a lot of us also just scattered around the world. And I think kind of being this kind of exile being this exile position. Having kind of the violence of history behind you are going is going to give.

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