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"Here too. Well Gentlemen you've been very generous with your time. I I have one more question I wanNA throw out to you and I don't think we're gonNA fight about it. We started off by talking about at the initial technology of body cameras and how it could be improved and What prompted mate? A WANNA set setup this podcast to talk to you was saying the latest generation of body cameras and the things they will do Things like having a body camera that can be remotely activated by the employer with or without the officers knowledge body cameras that have constant. GPS monitoring and body cameras that have More sophisticated when I has look back features and by a look back feature. I mean that they are recording all the time and when the the officer activates the body camera it actually goes back and grabs Some previous amount of video. How might be a minute or two minutes or five minutes or whatever it might be when the officer did not know that she or he was even being recorded and it seems to me the this generation of body cameras while you could make some arguments that they're a good thing You can make some arguments. That they're really problematic in terms of Once again everybody's privacy. What do you think I'm I'm GonNa let rocky jump all over this one okay? Yeah and we've been dealing with it and you know you asked me a question earlier about what we look for in these policies and you know. I neglected dimensioned the privacy interests. Now you hit on it. And that is the privacy interests of our clients and The technology is moving so fast fast that we are having a hard time staying on top of it but I can tell you with the lookback feature what's important is that when we tried to negotiate provisions that will limit that to certain circumstances but the technology is such that once it goes on and on and so then. It's it's a question of how do they use it. When do they use it again? Who has access to it? But I think the real problem is for us is that it's going to happen. A lot of technology is going going to happen in California You know they recently passed out. She said that the police cannot use Facial recognition software as part of the body worn camera feature. Or you know that's that's the California but a lot of other places aren't GonNa take that position so we've got the technology moving moving in a lightning speed and really what it gets down to. Well it's a whole cultural change. It's a it's an employment cultural change when we first we started negotiating with policies. I was very concerned. We have some departments where they had only half the members wearing cameras. We have some departments believe believe it or not they said well you can only wear you know if you buy it. And what happens is is that people in a work environment. Whether it's an office or out in in the street. They have to know what their privacy interests are and when they're going to be suffering some loss of privacy so every police police officer. That has a camera that has that feature where rollback thirty seconds sixty seconds. They need to understand that that that that could put you. In a very precarious position we negoti policies. Such that if something is recorded. Let's say you're on the phone with a loved one and You're you know maybe the love isn't so intense and you're arguing over something a family issue and now literally that camera gets activated edited by you and thirty seconds. Sixty seconds of that conversation is now on the camera. We have to deal with that in terms of policy development. And and so it's a problem and it's ongoing we've received many of our clients You know they re they tell us. Look the department wants to now activates this. His feature on the camera so requires a lot of discussion on our part but candidly Like we saw you know a decade ago the technologies. He's here and it's not going away. I mean social media facebook. They have all this. You know the facial recognition software despite you know some some forces in this country. It's going to become a reality so we just have to try to you know smooth some of the edges and guard against Abusive you know what really worries me. And I. I think you're right rocky That this is the way it's going to be. I'm just worried that we do not have enough money. In all the cities and counties in this country to pay young men and women enough money to want to be law enforcement officers in this environment but rockies that's your job you need to go ye forth and get more money. That's that's another podcast. That's that's three cats. That'll make three podcasts. And I promise you. We'll talk about well. Mike Mike Can Harry can can Harry. What what's your name rocky the other active Mike and Rocky thank you so much for joining me for this podcast? I've had a great time and it's been. I'm sure really informative to our listeners. And I'll bet there's at least one or two of them out there who wished that we could go on for another another hour or so as we could But you've got a very serious schedule problem and I just thank you for the time. I'm that you've given us. This has been really a treat. We'll take you somewhere. Hopefully to the discussion has been delightful dealing with IOS always. Well we really appreciate hit everything you did folks thank you for joining us for the premium podcast series of the Labor Relations Information System. We hope you join us for an upcoming interview. podcasts that we will have concerning all sorts of different privacy privacy rights in the workplace and with that this is well h assume signing off."