Mr David, David Shore, Toronto discussed on Talk About Talk
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Today is Mr David shore for those of you who subscribed to the talk about talk email blog. You may recall last year. I was interviewed on stage. A live Improv. Show here in Toronto called monkey toast not something you do every day right well not me but thanks in large part to David. It was an incredibly positive experience so I asked David if I could interview him about how to successfully conduct an interview and here. We are in this episode. You'll learn many things you'll learn about honing your interviewing skills. There is no magic bullet. It takes time in practice even the most skilled interviewers like say the HR expert in your firm. Who Conduct job interviews or famous interviewers. Like podcast. Tim Ferriss or the late night. Tv show hosts none of them. Were born instantly. Skilled at interviewing in fact in Tim Fares Podcast. He frequently talks about his. Early interview are cringe-worthy. He also mentioned how the successful people that he interviews all put their pants on one leg at a time and they all experienced multiple failures prior to their success including himself. That reminds me. We also talk. About how some of the best interviewers are not the best humans while all. Great interviewers are charming. When they're interviewing think Oprah Winfrey think Marc Maron think Matt Lauer or jeon go messy. I could go on. They're all charming during the interviews. Aren't they but clearly not? All of them are good humans. Okay back to honing our interview skills. It takes time it takes practice. There are no shortcuts except for this one thing that our guest expert David shore suggests if you take the time to critically watch or listen to tape of yourself or even others conducting interviews. You can probably accelerate your interview skill development in this episode. You'll also learn how to prepare for an interview including the importance of doing research about your interviewee tips. On how and why to conduct pre interviews and of course rating your interview script. Then there's how to make the interviewee comfortable before and during the interview and other tips for during the interview including listening and engaging but also not hesitating to take a few seconds to look down to reference your interview script and other tips such as making sure that the focus is on the interviewee and what to do when you're interviewee is nervous. Or they're not talkative and then there's the types of questions that work. Well let me tell you this. David's advice about the yes. No question just might surprise you. David also provides me some advice in terms of my interviewing skills. So there's lots of valuable learnings here for us in this interview as always you can easily access the summary or the details of this podcast by going to talk about talk dot com clicking on podcasts and then show notes. I have to tell you something quickly. I was listening to a podcast. This week hosted by one of my favorite podcasters and he actually said. There's lots of detail in this episode. So you might. WanNa go get a paper and a pen and I thought No how `bout you summarize it for me and that is exactly why I create these shows for you and I've heard from several listeners. That they appreciate these show notes so keep doing whatever. You're doing driving walking housework. Whatever you can listen and learn at the same time and then later you can go to the show notes on talk about talk website to reference. Whatever it is you need now. Let me introduce our guest expert David Shore and then we'll get into the interview. David is an improviser. A comedy writer and Improv Instructor. A celebrity interviewer a podcast and an actor. He's the artistic and executive director of a Canadian Comedy Award. Winning show called Monkey. Toast the improvise talk show. This is the show where he interviewed me on stage. If you're curious you can check out monkey toast at Monkey. Toast Dot Com David's also the producer and host of the panel show where they bring together to real journalists and to improvisers to talk about politics and real world issues. The panel show is recorded in front of a live studio audience and then also released as podcast. David's also served as a producer host of alumnus of the second city main stage and the West as a program consultant for BBC comedy and as a writer for Reader's Digest. He's also taught Improv in the UK at the Second City Training Center and at the bad dog theatre here in Toronto as you can see. David's interviewing experience is extensive. He's conducted interviews that appeared in print. He's conducted live interviews on stage and he's conducted interviews. That are edited for podcast. So here I am interviewing the interviewer about interviewing. Thank you David. So much for joining us to talk about interviewing beer. I love your artwork by step by the way soon. Especially if you've been so gracious and patient with me as I'm trying to set up my audio equipment the listeners don't know this because my audio equipment wasn't working but I was having major problems recording and David was incredibly patient and he told me that it wasn't bothering him at all. I've on your end of it so I don't know you're on my show monkey coast and we were recording it for podcast which we decided not to do is very difficult to record a live comedy show particularly that has live music and we had nights where some of the equipment wasn't working and we have to open the door because we have a big crowd and it was. It was a nightmare and then even with my other podcast panel show subjects had radio interference from a cell phone so this is a new one that I hadn't heard of radio interference from cellphones. Yeah early. It's not uncommon pending on the venue depending on the equipment. So why don't you share with the audience? Some some of the types of interviews that you've done and if we want we could we could get into equipment malfunctions sure I'm an improviser by trade which people like. What's that I I guess people would say? I'm a comedian but I don't do standup. I did what I was in high school. I TRAIN RISER. Out in. La at the Improv Olympic and then came to Toronto with the second city of the main stage there or about eighteen months. And then when I left I started my own show monkey toast. Which was it Improv. Show at it morphed into a talk show when CBC Radio Got Vall and so they trained taught me how to interview people and we worked with them for about a year. We kept it as a talk show through that I've got to. I mean that's how I met you. You were guest on the show interesting people and and through that as well for a while. I did celebrity interviews. Reader's Digest Canada We did a corporate show for them and they loved it so you were interviewing celebrities. I did I interviewed William Shatner. I they called the payday she goes. We'd love it if you Dave Thomas. Setv for our comedy issue. I'm like okay. She's like we'll pay you okay. Okay because like you want to pay me to interview one of the people I idolize growing up We had to do over the phone that he was great. They loved the interview and said Hey. Do you want to do more of these like yeah? Why wouldn't I WANNA be published in a magazine to pay as well as read by million people in Canada so I gave them a list of people with Don rickles? I think was at Bobby Orr. That's hilarious but they were like it has to be said we'd like interviewing Liam Shattner if we send you till eight interview. Who Else can you interview? They're just saying. Do One every time some of you may have heard by David. Shaw going. That name sounds familiar. That's because there's a very famous. Dave shore he's created the TV show house and the Gupta. Right and I know him. We know each other's from London Ontario is Canadian. As well I had a seder. What's with in Los Angeles so I said what about David Short? He just won the emmy for house named like the idea of David. Short Dave Chore. Yeah I had a phone number email address and contacted his wife. Of course we remember you. I'll give you not remember the other two chore. Why would you say no to beat him? Viewed by Digest. Nine billion people are gonna read set especially when it's someone that has your name. Yeah it was really an interview actually was pretty funny. So you're interviewing people for magazines. And then now you're interviewing people on stage and it's live and then you're also interviewing people for podcasts which can be edited so I have so many questions about yes. Let's start with at a basic level. How are those different legal? I haven't done a print one in a long time. I mean the Reader's digest it. I do an hour interview. And then I would have to transcribe it and then give me about twenty pages and they will cut it down to maybe a page or three quarters of the page. William Shatner's was titled Space Cowboy or something like that because he he has ranch and is it's really horses that I think he had some charities of all kids and getting them onto horses and stuff and with David Shore. We talked about his background in the fact that now that he's showing the arrogant unsuccessful. Show Alex emails directed him so asked to be at a podcast. That guy was him. Actors will contact be. What House was on? I got Fan mail sent to my agents. Because I'm an actor as well so I wouldn't things I asked him was like. Have you ever been mistaken for ever contacted? That's a great question to ask him. Eddie said Yeah I once got a call from a guy at. He's called we're talking and he's like. This is the way by Fred John. Talk jobs like you're you're not you're not the day shore and it was a friend of mine. John Wolf Krebs on Jimmy Kimmel namedrop Ed. He called the wrong David Shore. So I WANNA go back a little bit too interviewing skills earlier on here. You said that. Cbc taught you to interview. Can you share with the listeners? A few of the things that maybe you remember from back then that they tightly don't because it's a long tell you much. Forget the name of the gentlemen met with and he played tapes from interviews and he would say you see why that was bad at a big thing was do you think. This'll ring down the government. Yes that's a bad question. Anything that gives you a yes or no answers about question is let's you follow it up with why so open ended questions is kind of lake. I don't know the low hanging fruit for the types of questions to ask right. It's a we don't WANNA ASK. Yes or no question. What you're you're you will typically get a yes or no answer particularly if the person you're interviewing nervous the most important thing is you're giving someone is to have them relax like I'm not a journalist. I'm not like I told you before the show I asked you a question and you realize auto won't talk about this to say to talk about And I'm going to move on and it you know it's a comedy and I want them to be comfort. I kept telling you is wanting to be comfortable. You just just talking to me. Yep that's remember. We spoke on the phone yesterday before the interview. I just wanted to be comfortable just talking all guide you and but that to me is the most born. Thank you have to? You have to.