15 Burst results for "Tommaso Ciampa"
"tommaso ciampa" Discussed on Cheap Heat
"Course. And now blacker than black and unblack your and now black y'all and I'm black y'all and I'm black and they're black and I'm black, you're looking black blacker than black black and black and black. Because of black and a black. What do you have? In a number three Bianca Belair in at number three Bianca Belair. I know we talked about her having a losing streak and people are paying attention to that and they're not happy with the creative direction that she's been going in. But that has not impacted her performance at all. Every time the bell rings, she turns in an incredible match. She did it again this Monday with Becky Lynch. She didn't come away with the championship. But to point and like we spoke about earlier, she is still one of the fastest rising stars in the company. Fastest. Number three for that performance. Exactly. Fastest rising stars in the company. So in number three, for that performance alone, Bianca Belair. And number two, we just talked a little bit about NXT two, Carmelo Hayes and trick Williams. This duo Carmelo Hayes recently captured the NXT North American championship. He cashed in a money in the bank adjacent esque contract that he won. Took the title from swerve, sent swerved to SmackDown without his NXT North American championship. Okay. And just these two have been at the forefront of NXT two. I think the performance is always great. And it looks like they're building him to be potentially the face of the company. I know Braun breaker had that shot against Tommaso Ciampa, but I think Carmelo Hayes and trick Williams are going to be two that we definitely are going to want to watch and keep our eyes on. So they come in at number two. And then number one, his royal highness king Woods, I honestly did not think that he was going to be the one to come away with the king of the ring. I thought they were going to go with the demon king and flesh out that kind of thing a little bit more. But in wearing The Crown, he has become even more entertaining. And I didn't know if that was going to be possible. He named Kofi has handled the king. He came out with new regal royal gear, and he is filling that role as king quite nicely. So I'm going to hail king Woods this week, number one on the black power rankings. Well, STG, one thing I'm a little concerned about here is next week you're going to be Mexico for the big wedding. Next time we talk, you will be two days away from marriage. And we also may be on a new platform altogether. Again, you guys have to stay tuned in search for GP next week and make sure you subscribe if we do pop up somewhere else. Could be right here. Just keep your eyes open your ears peeled. However, your Internet was kind of like cutting out the last 20 minutes. I hope that's not some sort of bad omen for when you go down to Mexico. Because it's supposed to be next week that we're worried about. So I don't know. We're good to go. What are you arriving? You're having on Tuesday, makeup? Yeah, Tuesday. Is there a welcome basket? Oh, good question. Do you find out when you get there? All details were taken care of it and it's finalized. Next week. When I get up the plane, I get my answer. No. Well, by the way, we'll see. I have nothing to do with the airport. No, no, no, is this one of those resorts that when I show up to check in while I'm checking in, they hand me a drink? I need some champagne when I check in. I want to sprint. I want to spritz of some focaccia. Maybe a raspberry. I think you'll get the choice. A little raspberry. You'll get the choice. So whatever you want. Whatever you want there about you. Okay, okay. Next week is a very big week of GP. First of all, I hope we hear this just over the loudspeakers during the ceremony. Jerking the undertaker off. Also, I'm going to sing this. I don't know if you know this. When crystal goes down the aisle, I'm.
"tommaso ciampa" Discussed on The Mr. Warren Hayes Show
"You know what. I feel like the bill to the wedding. The little segments wrestling weddings are what they are. Okay but they aren't. They're part of the fabric of this. God damn ridiculous sport that we all enjoy watching their part of the north american fabric. Been impact the mideast. Wcw did them wwe so okay. They're going to happen. But you know what i think. They did such a good job. Making dexter loomis in india hardware so goddamn endearing that the the thing worked because the established the characters week after week. They had all this. They had all the these the these personalities little stories amongst each other it worked. What am i. What do you want from me was it. The greatest thing ever known. Would i have preferred an extra ten minutes on the the main event you know on the fatal four way. Yeah but for what it was. I thought it was. I thought it was entertaining. And i have my god. I have sit through. I have sat through so many so many wrestling winnings were just dog. Shit were bad this one. I think it did the job now. What needs to be underscored here before we close up the new two point. Oh and exte- of two point. Oh s. nece that. If you ever ever doubted that this was a new era for annex t. It should have been calm that no this is really like the olden exte- having the main event be the wedding should be the telltale sign that this is no longer your father's and extent. This is not even your annex. T the one that you fondly remembered back. When sammy's aim was an xt champion when shinsegi. Nakimora was there. When samoa joe infant valor were fighting each other or even during the The storied in hollowed tommaso. Ciampa gigondas story line. All of that is done. It's gone because annex t two point zero on its very first night. Main event did with a wrestling wedding. Whatever you knew about an exte- is gone. So i hope you had the time to say your goodbyes. Because this is the equivalent of your family pulling the plug on grandma before you were able to get to the hospital to say goodbye by the way..
"tommaso ciampa" Discussed on RAGE Works Network-All Shows
"All right enough of that change anyway because fucking steve is going to cover that up so I'll that shit Camera grass elevators billion dollars of wins. Open up the show. The hall of fame to deviancy grams. threw fake dollar bills to the crowd and he said he was proud to be. Grimes mentor but i think that they're gonna retire. That fucking novel. They're just gonna put it back and displayed on the future fucking place. Wherever the fuck the hall of fame is gonna be rich holland. Defeating typically thatcher with tomato chapel being at ringside after match checking on thatcher but holland shoved them down. Join them in a brawl broke out. This is gonna be good a came out and then danny burch welcome back birch. After his injury that's ciampa got out and laid out the heels. Looks like that trump is going to be needing help here. Who don't mind. If i knew who we think would be someone that could align themselves. They're interesting thing about that. Dexter loomis indy will. Wedding will take place. God another fucking wedding. Do we have to have one every year on. These fucking shows aches. Why can't these people fuck. What does it have to be marriage. Just fuck right. Katie cannizzaro and kate carter defeat in jc. Jane okay. I like. I like kanazawa. Encarta they actually a good team together. I will like. I would've liked to seen them on the main roster rather than shots in and knocks but okay back promo the women's champion rafael gonzales. Says she's been waiting for katie ray to arrive at xy for a long time. Raquel said She's been looking for her quite some time. And then frankie monet jessica near and robert stone to rob monet. Made it clear that she's coming for rockwell's title kaley ray with a large intro and that happened in two segments actually aid. They had a promo for her before the commercial and then and large entrance. afterwards she defeats. Valentino farrah's i didn't know who the fuck that was with the alpha. The alpha didn't help either so all right so so so we got some joe coming out talking about his win over carrying cross and he was interrupted by. Pete done now wants to take a shot at the nfc championship. Yes and then. And i comes out and says he wants to match as well. This is what i'm told. This is what i'm told about. This is what business about. The picco gonna tend to hurt out of ethics roster to do something like this. I get that. I get that colorado. That comes album. Got attacked my rich highland tomasa chopper then attacked pete done from behind. A huge brawl broke opportunity. So you kind of who the part of the tommaso ciampa and Typically thatcher grouping Interesting i knew that i was just fucking. What your khumalo hayes. If he's out of these odyssey jones. Who wendy breakout tournament. Fucking solid matched. Oh that shit was fucking actually was really good too. We did predict carmelo win contract. Congratulations man and Guys gotta check out this matches actual good during a backstage promo rich holland. Said he's gonna take out tomorrow. So trump is well. Holidays has chabot will take place next week. Then i'm telling you put it. They gonna put a fucking rocket on this guy's back ma'am. They were pissed that he got hurt a few months back so they want they want him to succeed. John quinn. if he's bohla after mailing caused a distraction to be honest. I breezed that match our backs. So johnny gargano begging. Nfc general manager would real to cancel the wedding between lewis hartwell hartwell. Yeah that's what the atkin agree with. Please cancel this fucking wedding. Roger sean would open Was issued an open challenge next week and Vince saying strong as the uncrowned annex. Chee cruiserweight champion. And lastly llegado got thousands defeats he had role and like i mentioned earlier the printing. But you saw didn't do this. Justice at all this batches actually fun and there was a great mass to watch very entertaining. And like i mentioned if you're going to thin out the heard and t and get rid of people just autoweek ac- matches like that more policy. I told i'm totally off base for that. That.
"tommaso ciampa" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network
"Guys just looking at him not making fun of him not mocking him. Almost like he's looking for something from this guy and when the show is over i thought these two men have gained great respect for each other. I'll bet you anything. They form a tag team. Jogos off the air so as it turns out. They're gonna form a tag team now. Part of the problem with this is that we never saw this on the show. This was all on social media and try to make a point of not watching the social media. So i can make sense of what's on television and what doesn't make sense on television so i can properly review this as a person that allegedly willie watching the usa network. But what happened for those either. No is chabot. Goes up to the guy and he says why. Didn't you break my leg in the fight pit thatcher says forget what he said but something like i respect you and then ciampa says well i hear there's an opening in the dusty classic so now they're a team and they're in the dusty classic bro. This is awesome now granted. I wish i would've been on television. But what's done is done. So imagine my shop. These matches are on the television show on the usa network and some of these matches are onto five live. Okay well. I figure that you know the bollywood boys who are regulars onto a five match will be until five live a sean the don this. Before he was injured he's going to be unto a five live. I wake up today and find that ciampa and thatcher's first match in the dusty classic is on two. Oh five live. Why can we do like half the stuff right now but the other stuff it's like. What are these. Two dudes went onto a five live higher. They not on the main show. I have no earthly idea. But if you would like to see tommaso ciampa and timothy thatcher fight in the dusty classic. What my friends you've got to watch to five live on the w network which like tell you something. Nobody's watching this show but maybe you the viewers can help turn that around now that these guys are on that show so anyway. I don't know what's going on. I'm baffled trying to hype up to five live. Obviously by having them on there. I guess that's fine but it's not gonna work because i've been watching. How will five live does over the last whatever and this is not going to boost. Viewership for to what's going to happen is thatcher and ciampa wrestling back vacuum. It has nothing against to have nothing against tool five life. I'm just telling you what's happened with that show. It's not watched. I'm sorry. I wish it was but it's not it's main event. I think it's below main event. But i understand what you're saying. I near says good thing annexed. He got your vote before you found out about trump and thatcher. Well i'm not holding that against wednesday's show that's another thing entirely but yes another thing that just blows my mind now. Is it so great. Though that they are all of a sudden you know they respect each other so now we must team. That problem with that is is what you were talking about with. Not being the same as what it was in previous. You know it previous incarnation. There's too much of the main roster stuff that filters down and is frustrating like these types of tag teams that just all of a sudden get together. Why why is the hold on if i may. This is totally different. Because the story was you had to tough guys okay thatcher from day one never had a problem with trump. He didn't even wanna fight the guy but chopper had a problem with him. So they do. This feud they destroy each other and at the end of the day. Thatcher makes ciampa submit which chop is like. Now i respect this guy so it's not the to. There's another team that hates each other. They like each other. They respect each other now for on raw. You're saying well these two blokes don't like each other. Which by the way the proper usage the term blokes 'cause regal said it so we're gonna put them together in a team and then they hate each other and all of this stuff that's main roster. This there was a story light to explain them getting together and they're getting together because they like and respect each other eight. We'll see what happens on two zero five live. I won't watch it but somebody can report back to me to see if they tease above multiple times them going after each other or teasing a split already. Because that's what they do attack teams in wwe. So i get it. You got to put people together to split them up into have feuds. I just think when you have that much talent you have. You're doing a tag team tournament. I mean established tag teams on the regular anathema in their person says after carrying cross injured. These two geeks done. it's and troy. I was by the way. Troy is Dayjur net witnessing the great insensible storytelling between trump and thatcher. Really maybe do a complete u-turn now. I'm not mad at them sacrificing low card guys for a better story and for the betterment of the tournament. Yes i agree completely my friend. I'm not complaining. Therefore worst teams in this world. I'd like to see together than those two. But it's like i don't know i to me. There's a better way to do this. I thought there would have been a better way to do this. And just it's one of those things that okay. Now we respect each. I just i know. I know the story that you gave. It just doesn't really jive with me. Just is one of those things that just seemed very predictable and now it's just the countdown to them breaking up to me. I would rather see them as opponents. I would rather see timothy thatcher away from jalpa and establishing himself more as being the killer on that brand. But we'll see. I agree with this one. Chopping thatcher is the best love story in wrestling right now. 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"tommaso ciampa" Discussed on Fight Boyz: A Pro-Wrestling Podcast
"There now we get Camryn Grimes running on the fucking running on the fucken road back to the CWC. He is said fuck of this haunted house. I'm going back to the arena and he will run there. So we get a promo backstage Drake Maverick is dressed as Hulk Hogan and that was gross then like the yeti Yeti showed up Killian Dain is trust as the shockmaster. It was it was nothing wrong with a whole real big nothing segment. It was really it was a little silly but not enough to really tickle my Funny Bone. So now we come back from commercial Cameron's back in the fucking CWC passes out from exhaustion, but then when he looks up he realizes he's in the graveyard of the the Halloween Havoc stage and so he gets up and there's more fucking zombies off. And Camryn Grimes is being stalked by zombies Loomis shows up behind Cameron in the ring as smoke fills it Loomis has his basic beat down the Bulldog into them enter all of his stuff that I feel like doesn't fit his character, but he still does anyways the zombies come in and basically like they swarm around Loomis almost as if he is there zombie Master Grimes hits a zombie with a cave in which is something I didn't think I was going to say about Halloween Havoc zombie crawls on top of Loomis. He yes. Yes. It's a zombie at Grimes and then bear it gives the best Call of the match which is, you know, zombies illegal in this matchup, which holyshit Barrett Grimes gets choked out for the victory Dodge then the zombies all start to swarm his body as we cut to commercial a freeze frame on Loomis his face as the end is Written in Blood and you know something it was silly it was dead. Goofy, but it was really fucking good at least the stuff in the CWC was well-lit. So I loved that and for me like WWE does these house of horror counted house bullshit? I'm happy. They finally doubled down and said, let's make a real house haunted house with zombies and demons in it. They finally put their money where their mouth is and it it was so good. So now we get a promo from Champa and this was actually just like a really nice Ernest promo where he's talking about the fact that this is not the NXT Champa remembers, it's almost it's almost like he's firing off about how in XT has been since they went live since they went to battle with a ew, he's saying the culture has changed that people are asking for handouts. They're not learning anything and I was waiting for him to say NXT has become the main roster cuz that was the basically what he was saying and he says Champa was never handed anything else. And then he turns to Velveteen dream and he says Velveteen dream. You got all the talent in the world, but you keep getting in your own way. You keep asking for these handouts and then ends it by saying, you know the old saying Hit Me With It cast once shame on you hit me with your cast twice. You're a dead man, which holyshit what so that happened? We then get two matches announced phone next week Amber versus Dakota Kai and tommaso ciampa vs. Velveteen.
"tommaso ciampa" Discussed on The Bower Show Podcast
"This betrayal was was really good job. I'm intrigued to see where things go from here with Otis and now Tucker your thoughts on the Otis mismatch. Yeah, I enjoyed it cuz it was kind of it was weird because Debbie's got to stay with the foreshadow a turn and then make you forget about it for about three or four months and then bring it back up out of nowhere and it's like oh, yeah, if you go back three or four months ago, this makes sense, but it's just weird. Like, you know, what all that Otis dating Mandy stuff is going on you and I are going on Tucker need to turn on them and then they don't do it in and now they bring it up. It's like now that's actually really good and I'm super happy to see Ms. In Morrison holding the Money in the Bank briefcase against those guys are entertaining. So it was it was good storytelling good match, you know, I noticed matches never going to be a five-star match. But I mean if you get some entertainment habits of shock value and the result makes sense, I'm good with that. Are you happy the money the Bank briefcase cases off of him now. I don't like those. I don't like that briefcase being on baby faces anyway, cuz it's just always hard to the Babyface Cashes in post-match to me. It makes them look weak and I'll call her shot. You look dumb. So I kind of like the briefcase being with heels anyway, and and there's no way he was ready to take the belt off Roman, you know going forward or whoever ends up defeating Romans took it to me. It makes sense to put it on somebody else for now until Otis is ready. Cuz he's lost a lot of steam from where he was heading into money the bank. Yeah he has and I think if there was a live crowd I think would not be all in on otus right now. I think you'd be getting booed like nobody's business so they should be lucky that they're not running New York Boston Philly Chicago right now home and this is what's going on next match yours the Hell in a Cell match for the W Smackdown Women's Championship. I had Bailey Dr. Trade Sasha Banks Sasha Banks got the victory here and became the new w e That Women's Champion. I'm very split on this match because it had some really good moments and then it had some dead moments as well. I wondered how this match would have been received by a live crowd because of that fact, I enjoy the Innovative bank statement with the chair for the victory. It was there were some times it was like really good and you're into the match and then there were some times where it felt very dead and buried after tray. It was a very weird. I don't think I've seen a match like this where it was. So in the middle to this degree in sometime your thoughts on Sasha Banks defeating me become the new Smackdown women's champion. So I also just I like Sasha and Hell in a Cell match because she she might be the most Innovative Helen itself participant that we've seen in recent times like she comes up and stuff. I'm like, oh, wow. I haven't seen them before and we've seen God knows you and I've seen probably what forty Hell in a Cell matches seems like but yeah, you're right. They were times where you're going. Okay, somebody do something and then there's other times you're like wow, this is amazing. So it was really like we saw the Ebbs and flows the highs and lows of wrestling. This match was like highs and then like, you know, big highs and then really low lows so it kind of came out like yeah, it was good. Like it's it's not great. It's not bad. It was good. So like and you know, I was actually pulling for Sasha Banks. So go figure so overall, I would say it was it was a good held a Cell match. I don't maybe hers and Becky's from last year was better and I didn't really like hers and Charlotte's at the first Helen itself or the women. So this is dead. Like out of the three Sasha held a map Cell matches up with this is number two, I think makes sense. Yeah. No. She's pretty good at Hell in a Cell matches. I would agree with you there. I think she does a pretty good job and I think the the only other one I liked more was was it the one with her and Becky Lynch last year? Yes, I think hers is the one was the best one of the three and I did not like the Charlotte one. Yeah, okay. Yeah, the Becky one. I was trying to think to myself there. Which one was it that I really liked and I think what you had said. Yeah, Becky and Sasha last year was was a really good one. They did some invade Innovative spots. And you saw that again Sasha does seem to be the queen of the Hell in a Cell Ring. Next match here was pretty W United States Championship Bobby Lashley defending against slapjack. We did not predict this match wage. Bobby Lashley did get the victory. It was basically Lashley dominating slapjack. The booking of Retribution has been extremely weird. Now, I'm not sure when we should expect this group to change the corner and be taken seriously based off the way that they continuously be booked. I don't get it. Maybe this is what we've been hearing. Tray that this was going to be potentially the end of Retribution. They were dead in the water before they started thoughts here Lashley defeating slapjack to retain the United States Championship. I was sitting here thinking didn't we didn't we think he was supposed to be the fiend against slapjack? Yeah, we we did actually we predicted the Fein versus t-bar which was on the Wikipedia page and Imagination happen, which is a rare occurrence on the show. Yeah, yes, but Lashley against slapjack, which I think they have to pay Stevie Ray a little bit of money every time they say slapjack. But yeah, it was basically a squash and so now I'm like you put on there basically just to be the buffer between Sasha Bailey and Drew and Randy. I guess there's just a filler to get to that so it can accomplish that goal. But yeah, absolutely Rob the booking of Retribution has been absolutely Bonkers and weird and doesn't make a lot sense for the valley hood that they had coming in especially they we haven't seen Reckoning in a match off since this whole thing happened. I might you say you're wasting me a year. Then you're wasting Donovan dijak effect o d o Madden actually looks good in his gear. I'm actually get to see more of Mace and then slapped actually a really damn good wrestler think this whole thing is just being wasted on a really bad gimmick right now. Yeah, it is a very very bad gimmick. Not sure what they're doing with it. I feel bad for Dominic. Jacobik after he shaved his head to do this whole t-bar shit. So weird very weird how they're being booked right now. I think Mustafa all he's doing a good job as a mouthpiece and the leader of the of the group but they're not getting wins. So if you're not winning can't take you seriously much more. So see if this is going to be a turn of the corner. There's reports at one point that this group is going to have a big Survivor Series. I don't know how that could happen right now as we sit here on October 29th. And then finally the main event here Drew McIntyre defending the WWE championship against Randy Orton and Hell in a Cell match and I both had Randy Orton and Randy Orton did win and become the new WWE Champion good storytelling throughout the match. It felt like Orrin outsmarted McIntyre for most of the match and this is why drugs lost the Droid shots on top of the cage were really cool. According to reports the rumored Orton Edge w e championship match at WrestleMania. 37 is back on this was just one of those things where birth Like I said before or an outsmarted outsmarted Drew McIntyre, I enjoyed not as much as I enjoy the Roman Reigns Jey Uso storytelling. I enjoyed this story telling as well just felt like the veteran got the better of Jersey Guitar during this match. Yeah, which is weird cuz they're actually both veterans. You know, like it's not a druze like a young guy, you know, he's young yet. He's younger than you, but Randy orange at like ten years on them. Yeah, but it's not like Drew hasn't you know is is in terms of fourteen year veteran, you know Randy just been around forever. But yeah, it was a great match. Like I as one of the aficionados of birthday detailing is like, okay. Well Randy's tried to play different angles withdrew to get wins. And then this one is him just going okay. I'm his temper against him and outsmart him. I loved it. I I mean I I actually liked it. Maybe just a slight Notch below Roman and Jay just because you know, the family storytelling up to me is a little more emotional than in this one but overall the fall, you know, thinking the bumper to the table the the Randy Heidi stuff all over the place to play the upper Edge. Like how do you hide a lead pipe on top of the hell in the cell phone now like Randy lurking around the catwalk stripe drop it down while being you know early in the show stuff like that, but I loved it. I loved the Finish, you know, hitting the first claim or setting up with a second one to relieve you. The deathblow Randy w e r k. I love that page. I thought was really well done. So overall just I really really enjoyed that match pay-per-view predictions record. We I went to into doctor Thursday at three in one overall record now is updated. I'm 95 and 43 doctor trade 90 in 48. Let's get our event ratings and match of the night out of the way. I'll start with my team match tonight my match the night from Hell in a Cell was Roman Reigns versus jehu. So I really enjoyed that matchdoctor tray and my event rating. I gave it a 3.7 out of 5. I was highly entertained by Helena saw this past Sunday night. I'm going to go with Roman and J as well the storytelling kind of pushed it over the edge. I was at like a 3.4 like I enjoyed it. But if she like there were times when you know, there was like there wasn't a big excitement level. It was just really good storytelling really good entertainment some a 3.4. So there you go. Feel free to chime in from anything that we talked about here from Bound for Glory recap purview or wel in a Cell at SRT you podcast on Twitter or Facebook, So real to show obviously on next week's show will be previewing predicting a w full gear wage. Then in two weeks time. We will be recapping that show as well. It's crazy thankfully crazy how quick this year is going as we're hitting November next month and then we're getting close to the the end of the year programming here in SRT you Thanksgiving specials and so much more so sticky here with us at the store real to show podcast moving forward. To trade some off. Of our what's good from NXT Halloween Havoc some things that I really enjoy from Halloween Havoc Johnny Gargano defeated Damien priests in a Devil's Playground match to become the NXT North American champion. I wish that they told us what the Devil's Playground match was during the first segment and not when we came back from break cuz I no idea what the hell that even meant. I had a mysterious figure in a screaming match helping Gargano win the match very fun match. I enjoyed it surprised that they took the title off of gave me embrace. But Johnny Gargano was just back just as good as well in his new heel character Pete Dunne shockingly returned on Wednesday night. It looked like he was got a side with Kyle O'Reilly as Kyle O'Reilly confronted Pat McAfee only loss Danny Burch, but Pete Dunne turns or I mean they were really excited with one other hits Colorado Riley with a steel chair and now sides with Pat McAfee lorcan and Birch to me some wage. Games foreshadowing now for on for in just about little less than a month's time. I think that's where we're heading. Now folks Raquel Gonzalez show that she can hang as an in-ring work after her match with Rita Ripley something. We really haven't had a chance to see from Rhea Ripley our excuse me, Raquel Gonzalez on xev and all that much and then lastly the House of Horrors match between Dexter Loomis and Cameron. Cameron Grimes was a fun job cinematic match crimes and Loomis are awesome personalities and characters and what just a creepy match that was with like those actors and actresses like zombies Walking extremely weird. I don't know maybe they went to a chiropractor before hand to do all that stuff. But that's what was that was some of my takeaways from Halloween Havoc doctor tree. I'm happy that we're seeing a Halloween Havoc was a show they did bkw dynamite in the viewership Wars on Wednesday night as well. What were some of your takeaways in favor of moments romantic see Halloween havoc The t l s smashed here with the tables let our Tables Ladders and scares. I love that match. That was maybe the one of the best offer letter imagine ever received like that bump that that Candice took off the ladder over the top rope onto the props up ladder just looked like she died just an incredible match. I really enjoyed it you and I talking about like McAfee has got to find somebody else like having lower converter is great. They're going to need somebody else out there with them though to go against the disputed area and off. Who is in incredible shape like yeah the pandemic this whole entire body. Oh my God, like now he is prime like we talked about him being a breakout storage. He is he's now he's going to take over WWE on the next couple of years like that guy is just I mean, he looks now like a WWE wrestler not like a British independent wrestler. But I mean how cool I mean I love P dumb, but he doesn't not his promos aren't always that great. Now you got a guy like McAfee backing him up in the mouthpiece form. That's pretty phenomenal. I'm just super siding then you know, where does the the the Johnny Gargano gave me a price match was fun because Johnny got it doesn't have a bad match. I don't think he's ever had a bad match. I think you probably if he was five years old. He wouldn't have a bad match need a great in the ring. But does this set up tension with Johnny and Candice? Because Johnny did his part can is didn't do her part. And then who the hell is the person in the scream mask picking up Candace on his shoulders. I did they bring in Ellsworth to help like I don't know what the hell happened and whoever it is got beat up my shots eat. So it's just it's I love this show because it was like there was answers and questions and like you you're done. Yeah, they are going that was great. Now I want to see more cuz I got to see what we're all these things that go from here and tommaso ciampa cutting a promo on Velveteen dream is always a higher wage. To me as well. Yeah, it was it was a fun show. It really was a very fun show on Wednesday night. And I don't know we talked about it on last week. Aw Dynamite has been kind of weird lately. It has a very weird feel when it's not live you could tell it's taped more than any wrestling show. I I can remember like I watch Impact Wrestling. I know it's taped but it doesn't feel like it's taped show. There's just something it's a different vibe. I don't know if it's the way they edit shows. It's just a different vibe that that they're not live and and they're not going to be live for I think next week Thursday. Well heading in full gear. So maybe this is an opportunity for NXT to take take a hold of things. But clearly The Nostalgia is working for an XE right now as in your house with success wage Halloween Havoc is has been a success Great American bash was a success. I guess they basically going to try to own every w w old pay-per-view name. So AWS and go and steal it like they did with beige. The beach back in January of this year. So very cool to have Halloween Havoc back and it's a perfect way to utilize those names as is for the NXT brand weather than rather than am not being used at all. Am speaking of a w I figured I would bring up here doctor trade some of the most intriguing entertaining storylines in wrestling today for me. I broke it down to three storyline that I'm really enjoying right now in a w, it's the Jericho MGF storyline an impact wrestling. It's the who shot Johnny Bravo storyline now thoughts on Raw Alexa Bliss and the fiends relationship. If you were to canvass professional wrestling's landscape right now and you take a look at some of the most intriguing and entertaining storylines off that you're enjoying the most from what you're seeing on television right now. What are they and why so if I'm going to impact I mean up until the wedding it was you know, I was really digging the hole Rosemary bringing bad James Mitchell and that just transitioned to the who shot Johnny Bravo angle which now is it's soap opera televisions is what makes wrestling great at times but it is the Jericho mjf stuff because they they flipped stuff around so much now like now you're going okay Jericho day after going to have a match and if MJ up wins, it used to be in the Inner Circle, but if a guy beats me do I want him joining my group. I mean that does that create tension like it's good storytelling and it's a different angle like they want a different route because originally I think it was just such a big a round table with either Circle discussing MGF and they turned it into the town hall debate thing. So that was good WM split I still love the Roman Reigns Jo stuff the Alexa Bliss character is going to be Thursday see where it goes and how does the feed factor into the organ McIntyre stuff but Maybe you got family drama and you you end that first. Hello Cell match with off and seeka coming out and you know, quote unquote crowning Roman as the head of the table like that's really good stuff and that's hard to talk because that's family Dynamics. And then where does the rock fall into this? Because it feels like they're still going that way at some point. So that's that's a really hard Angela top. That'd be my favorite angle right now going in wrestling. All right, feel free to chime in at s RT Podcast on Twitter Facebook, She'll what are some of your favorite language professional wrestling right. Now. There's some really good stuff. I think for some promotions like a w three easy to point to Jericho mjf. I think Kenny Omega and hangman page has been a very good storyline FTR and Young Bucks I think is on the rise right now as well Impact Wrestling the who shot Johnny Bravo storyline. They just have been so damn entertaining with Impact Wrestling right now dead. And then w got Alexa Bliss daphene. You've got Roman Reigns Jey, Uso. So there's a lot of good intriguing entertaining storylines right now heading into the winter months right now. To train that that's a good thing. I mean this is is usually the time frame where we have been historically bash what wrestling's doing right now, but it feels like most of these promotions actually like all the promotions that we cover here on the show aren't a really good spot correctly. Yeah, it's weird cuz usually run this time you and I complained that WB kind of gives up because the NFL season is going on but you know, they got direct competition even more. So now this year than last year, you know, they've had to step their game up. I mean it it's great. I mean not to mention like the stuff that's coming down the pipeline like, you know me Zayn and dinner Brian like how good is that going to be and then you have Kevin page instead of on the peripheral because we just saw Owens reach out to Brian might be a tag team but then all of a sudden get Sammy dinner Brian in a few words KO fit and all this and you know like that like that's just me go then you mention stuff on it's on the rise. Then you were talking about the tag team division an impact and then you know orders didn't try no offense to it cuz they are they're super entertaining as as we know for the past. So there's a lot of really good stuff going on with the three major brands of us wrestling right now. And then the the last bit of news here we want to cover on the show and I wanted to give. Tre ample time to share his thoughts and feelings and pay on Iraq you to is the unfortunate news of Tracy Smothers passing away at the age of fifty eight years old yesterday on Wednesday at this past week. Tre I feel like this is some one out of every wrestler like we've ever come across. I've always felt like Tracy Smothers name gets mentioned the most here off on the personal relationships that we have when it comes to professional wrestling and when I saw the news, you're the first person I immediately thought of and your relationship with Tracy Smothers. So obviously our condolences to you for losing your friend, but more importantly I figured this is ample time and take whatever time you would like to pay tribute and honor and tell some stories off. wrestling legend that is Tracy Smothers And Tracy like so I met Tracy happens on my Facebook page, but I met Tracy for the very first time in June of 2016. He was a book to come in to Athens program here now up in Athens, Alabama to work an angle with me and the northern wolf Brian Hebert guy out of New York. So we did the whole New York versus the South angle and I was work as I am Tracy Smothers from you know, ECW and then growing up watching him as as one half of the Southern Boys with with Scott Armstrong and I'm just like I can't believe I'm getting into wage Tracy Smothers like, you know the FBI and he was on the most entertaining apps I ever saw in my life. It was just hilarious. So I was a little Starstruck as well the first times I've actually kind of been, you know nerve to meet somebody and he came in and he came in with Two other people he helped train up in Indiana. Chloe belts mothers and Johnny Richards and they were just the nicest people in the world and I was still scared it was happen to like right before the match that I spoke to about. Hey, you know, what do you want to do it? He was like just you know, just all my lead Follow My Lead. So we got there and I'm out there. I'm cutting this promo on him and he's just smiling and laughing and then he grabs the mic and starts kind of promo on met my now wife at the time. It was only like her second match. She'd ever been a part of and he's cutting a promo on her calling her like every, you know name of the book home match. He ends up punching me kissing her and they winning the match and we had done and it was you know, he was very gracious and kind it was like Hey, you know, if you guys need anything, just let me know and that's always you know normal speak for wrestlers. Yeah. Yeah, it's great, you know and then when it with my traveling I ran into him. About four or five months later at a show and you know walked up to him he goes. Hey, you're that doctor Trent guy from from Alabama, aren't you and I'm like I didn't want to correct it but I think for the office like six months, I knew him. I think he thought my name was Trent. I just let it go and like yeah. Absolutely Tracey. I'm I'm glad you remembered me and then when Rocket City started I really pushed very Co-op to bring him in cuz I always knew he'd be great to have around the locker room and teaching guys. Cuz no.
"tommaso ciampa" Discussed on The Bower Show Podcast
"That's like the expect any reform NXT going and he he said that there was no expectations, but obviously that could all change and that's the thing that I don't like about the inconsistencies of Duty we programming in general. I would love or the NFC involved. I would love to see NXT get pics as well. I mean if you want them to be looked at as a third brand in the eyes of their fans then they shouldn't be a stand-alone brand away from Ron Smackdown like Ron down then still are perceived as the main roster is quote-unquote. And then NXT is this like quasi developmental brand ECW like wage? Sprinkled in with some very big name players like Finn Balor Amber Moon Adam Cole Johnny Gargano, tommaso. Ciampa, etc, etc. Like I think NXT should be involved. Like it's the same way that I will finish in about. Let's say four weeks when they announced the plans for Survivor Series if we're not doing Raw versus Smackdown versus Antics again, then why do we do it last year? So that's always been a thing right doctor trailers just the inconsistency was wrong with creative and I think that actually helps NXT by making it on the same Level Playing Field as Raw and SmackDown when you do things like the draft and when you mentioned that you know, the old WWE off like they were involved in the draft and that's how you kind of grow able to kind of re-establish characters and kind of rebuild them up and I think that would be a good addition if you were able to say, you know, if you got to like, you know sending back to NXT or sending a guy who may be kind of I'm trying on top of my head down to try to draw like a little bit but if you got a guy that was kind of middling a long story G you can say shorty Gina NXT and I think that would pop off. Two people they can have because if you got a shorty Johnny Gargano match, you know shortage he and Adam Cole like those kind of matches that we that you know wrestling guys salivate over. It's a waiter than redeveloping character and eventually bring it back up and we did that with you know, Matt Hardy travel Guerrero Christian you go back in the days of you know, the the ECW on you know, sci-fi was they would get drafted to smack her to George W and basic I be able to re-establish themselves and get over and move back up Mark Connery wasn't all those guys that did that so I think that'd be a good move that they started incorporating it and did you don't have to draft the chomp in the Gargano as you can draft, you know, an Isaiah Source guy, you know, in fact you're into the mix and and you know, he can be if you want to keep the hurt business dealing with affection, you know, Ricochet, you know, and and our cruise now need help again. Well now that's worse got available to add to that mix. I mean that those possibilities do exist if they want to go down that route. Speaking of brands in wa one brand that outside of NXT. That won't be part of the W draft on Friday. And Monday is the 4th brand still under the NXT Branch off of NXT. UK. Obviously, it's not going to happen now with the pandemic going on but certainly not part of the draft and it was about what 3 weeks ago. Now that NXT UK returned I've watched the last eight episodes doctor tray. I don't know if you have an opportunity to so far but I think this was a good opportunity to get some of our thoughts out of the way and what we think about the Antics cuk relaunch first and foremost from my personal opinion. I love the new girl new theme song everything about it is is much better than it was previously. The cailee Rae vs. Piper Niven match from several weeks ago was absolutely fantastic. I love the same premise of the Heritage Cup Tournament. That's pretty cool. I'm digging the British rounds matches. It took me a little bit to understand what was going on at first, but I think that's like get a couple of matches under wage. Our belts here, especially for me who hasn't seen many British Rao's matches outside. The one that they did like several months ago with Cassius Ono and I'm going to be digging what they're doing right now, but I'm enjoying a wage. I'm happy to see NXT UK back. The shows have been pretty strong thus far. I don't know if you've had an opportunity to watch the return shows, but I think this has been a a very good step forward for the UK edition of a next day. It's all my watchlist. Like I wanted I like binge-watching UK. So I'll watch like five or six episodes in a row right now, Mike, let me get to you know week four or five and then I could sit down just block out and afternoon and just hike catch up on everything because I'm still not familiar with I mean the people that have been there for a while I kind of know but there's other people up like, I don't know if a person is I want to be able to watch the British round stuff like in a row and not Gap it out because I don't want my brain to kind of forget like what I saw the week earlier. I want to kind of get it all in and kind of get that understand. To get how everything works. So it's all my watchlist cuz I've heard nothing but good things about the about the relaunch so probably this week. I don't think we have a pay-per-view coming up. So I think this Sunday might be my friend to catch up on you pick. Yes, it's deaf a good brand to go out there right now and binge-watch highly recommend that good stuff from the annex Tuk brand feel free to chime in with your thoughts as far at s RT Podcast. The next door here is something I've been thinking of the last couple of weeks. I was like, you know, there's gonna be some down time here in between pay-per-views. I want to bring this up because it's something that's definitely going to be the forecast and figure that would be talking about it by now and came back this past week. We started seeing some new stories. I think on Friday of last week where this certainly became the likelihood of a major change as wel possibly changing the location off of WrestleMania 37. This comes to us from wrestling ink they have we were totally as tentative plans in place and move WrestleMania 37 from sofa stadium in Inglewood, California to Raymond James. Stadium in Tampa, Florida, it was reported on Friday by Gary Gary Cassidy the inside the ropes that W as the plans in place for Wrestlemania 37 to be held at the original location for Wrestlemania 36 before the covid-19 demek force the event to be moved to the W performance center a known as the capital wrestling Center. The news was originally reported by ringsidenews earlier this summer WrestleMania 37 was previously announced for Englewood with the Wrestlemania home would name there's no word yet on why the locations being changed but where does that typically is locked down most of the buildings in the Tampa area for potential events to take place during WrestleMania 37 weekend, WrestleMania 37 is scheduled to take place on March 28th. 2021. Stay tuned for updates on the possible location change obviously here on SRT you and then we the update from wrestling ink regarding the original ports. Dave Meltzer f4w online.com has confirm that W, he's planning to move WrestleMania 37 to Tampa. There's no word yet on when the announcement will be made Deputy. We issued the following statement to the median response to the inquiries we have wage. In a report and given the current environment we continue to monitor locations for all of our potential events. Furthermore was reported a by Russell votes on Twitter, which is like a hundred percent right all the time that W he's in the middle of a bath with the city of Los Angeles over who can legally cancel the previously announced the vent for that area and win they noted earlier that was contractual obligations were the state of California. It appears to be without tickets to WrestleMania. 37,000. No word yet on how many a lot of factors are still up in the air due to the coronavirus pandemic adding a little bit of a political layer to this before doctor joked around about it at the beginning of the show, but the floor wage earner Ron DeSantis announced I want to say within the last seven to ten days that all coronavirus restrictions have been lifted which is bananas to do that. But here we are he has given the clearance for the Miami Dolphins over at Hard Rock stadium in Miami. I believe that hosted a WrestleMania at one time Wrestlemania 28. I want to say the Rock and Cena to that. They could have all sixty five thousand people in a stadium wage. Is Ron DeSantis not watching the news and listen to health officials more or less? This adds to the fuel to the fire right now doctor trade that this is Debbie Deweese plan, whether they try to pack the entire Stadium or just fill it with let's say a ten to twenty thousand people in pods is a possibility but it seems like to me the likelihood is at WrestleMania 37 will be returning to its WrestleMania 36 home of Raymond James Stadium off.
"tommaso ciampa" Discussed on The Bower Show Podcast
"First and foremost just right off the Jump here. I love the throw the call back to the capital wrestling which started before wfjs like man Vince McMahon senior year had ran that company and nice homage to be naming the performance center now after a capital wrestling more to I really enjoy, dr. Dre was the look and feel took the new capital wrestling Center. It felt like it was like like Triple H referred to it prior to as being hard rock and heavy metal and to me had like this fight club of appearance to it. Like it was like wage. Like there were people smoking cigarettes during the event. That's how that's how much it was. Like like this should be is this downstairs of like a a bar like people playing pool to the right of the Ring right now very often feel. I enjoyed it any initial thoughts that the the new old performance center. So a couple of things so this to me with with naming it the capital wrestling Center immediately told me we're never having a cruiserweight classic again because the initials are exactly the same. So, you know, those are calling it The CWC or the CW Center, you know, so it's like oh, well, we're not have the cruiserweight classic again because it's the same initial so often rebranded and called something else if they bring that tournament back ever again, but I agree with you like the look and feel it was kind of like if raw underground and raw Thunderdome had a baby. Yeah, that's right. It was it was gritty but it was well-lit. So I don't know if those two things have ever been done where you having gritty will it show but it it had that like, you know once again this month I always go back to W listens to us because Jeff always says used is the you want to see Metallica before they get famous. It had that feeling of that like, you know, Metallica at The Viper Room in like Nineteen Eighty-Four like it just had that vibe to it and I give all the credit world to Jeff because Jeff throws that analogy out quite a bit off and visit your blade was like, you know, what we need to make it like a small Viper Room type Rock Show wrestling show I think but you know, it's religious. Maybe he has the most rocking his music for the intro said XTS as his brain started. He's not using Nickelback. No thankfully because that a. Metallica Nickelback is not Metallica its claws if if you were drunk, but now I think the only thing that's missing is like fluorescent tube light at this point compared to the Viper Room and being down and like the Roxy or something like that for professional rest. It's a really cool looking dog. Props for doing it. I like the change to the WB performance that are now known as the capital wrestling Center. Let's get into the results here. We had Damien priest offending the annex see North American championship against Johnny Cochrane doctor and I both had Damien priests Damien. Got the Victory and retained the championship on Sunday. Good match between Prisa Gargano. It is difficult to grade Johnny Gargano matches it take over he's now had 20 of them when he is the greatest track record of any Antics East are in history still a good match and a solid win for Damian priest as he continues to be built up in NXT. To trade your thoughts priest defeating her God. Oh God Johnny never has a bad match and take over. I think he's now like 2:00 and 13 singles matches though. Like he doesn't have the best winning percentage, but he never has a bad match. He always makes his opponent look like a million dollars and you know, I love the the Damien priest who is the quote unquote rocker type character for NXT month. Opens the show in the rock band looking Arenas. I thought I thought it was a great transition next match. She was cuz she to take it on Velveteen dream doctor and I both had kishida who she got the victory on Monday over to The Velveteen dream good match unique finished with kishida keeping the hoverboard law found Velveteen dream after again in the dream Valley driver. I love this fish adverse vicious version of kishida throughout the match home and and even more post-match with The Velveteen dream as he kept the hoverboard locked on the dream and then more importantly here. Just after you cover the matchdoctor. Tray just gonna throw this out anyone ever lost more momentum in NXT than Velveteen dream, maybe both MC from like the early stages of the W Network error of addicts T, but it's certainly up there your thoughts on the match cuz she had to feed in The Velveteen dream and the amount of momentum lost by The Dream Yeah, it's it's crazy that this guy went from you know, on the verge of being called up and possibly being a very quickly main event or type character on one of the you know, raw or Smackdown to you know, is he has his job like, I mean, that's that's how far it's it's fallen and in one of the knocks I've always had on dream is I never know if I should be cheering him or booing him. And even now Faith is few weeks Rashida. I don't know who I'm supposed to be rooting for and who I'm not supposed to be rooting for I think this is one of the Dynamics of his character is like they'll book him as a heel but he still comes off as a Babyface bought a book. It was a baby facing acts like he he'll like I don't think like he gets his character but I don't think he gets how to work the crowd to get you know that emotional connection to what his characters doing in the ring. So it was a great match. I really enjoyed it. But at the end of the day, like I think it comes down to dream just needs to get a handle on his character and then not dead. Such a f up outside of the rink. Yeah. The interesting part about dream is is see. I think this is where we differ like, I think it's pretty clear right now that Velveteen dream is playing that like old throwback. He'll walk over to the casino did to dream would be like if there was a live crowd. I'm wondering what the crowd start turning I could shoot a I don't think so because I think ashita is beloved and I just love this need your side of him. It's completely something we've never seen even during his time in New Japan. So it's really interesting this character dynamic between he and The Velveteen dream right now. And cuz she had a great match with tommaso ciampa to open a CT this past week. So happy to see cuz she to finally making an impact in a taxi and during the Takeover stage cuz I thought this was going to happen months ago like a year ago off injuries and I don't like a loss of momentum for Casita has put him in this position that has actually helped the character development this new vicious side of him right now as well. Next match here is for Thursday. Actually Cruiserweight Championship. We have Santos Escobar defending against Isaiah. Swerve Scott doctor and I both had Santos Escobar in sato's Escobar did retain the Cruiserweight Championship on Sunday really good match thought this was first chance to become Cruiserweight Champion finally break out but the exposed turnbuckle tightener had other plans for Isaiah swerve Scott. Unfortunately the Finish helps continue to grow Santos Escobar as a top you on the Antics a brand of my life and I would love to see a rematch again between these two. It was also nice to see the former tehuti miles now known as I Chante via Donis get involved. I've enjoyed his work on 205 live the last several months surprise enough to that carry this over on Wednesday's edition of NXT. We'll have to see if this carries over on 205 live instead on Friday doctor tray. I love this match. I thought Santos S Club is where Scott sold the show your thoughts on the Cruiserweight Championship Match. Yeah. I'm a big fan of sort of sort of like he's got one of the most interesting movesets cuz some of the stuff he does your like. I don't know how he can log. Ben his body the way he does in times. It's it's really impressive and Escobar's just want to me. He's one of those classic kind of throwback. He knows how to be a he looks like he knows how to get a rise out. He like he's one of those guys. He's one of the few guys that you watch that's you know, quote unquote a heel and actually cheats during his imagine. He'll choke a guy on the ropes. He'll Khao Jos do the nasty dirty stuff that you don't see, you know, some of the other guys doing that are supposed to be bad guys. But yeah after you have something like this.
"tommaso ciampa" Discussed on What's Wrong With Wrestling? WWE Recap Show
"Dictionary definition of slapjack before he changes the name almost as bad submission sorority. Do you know how long I think it's like when you come on your hand and you slap someone I'm not kidding. I saw it kind of Sade earlier the act of yep. Yeah exactly it. Okay. Yeah, so I read right choice I read correctly. Here is the can I read the the definition the use it in a sentence Oh, yeah today, I gave Melinda a slapjack after that bitch ate my last Hot Pocket Edition example. Yeah, Urban Dictionary Jake Baker. Push Fireberry. Terrible name changes shorty G T Bar M a slap jack or Kerwin White It's got to be retribution like terrible name changes short e g g barme slapjack and Kerwin white. I don't know if that's a name change that just revealed the name, but kirwan whites was funny. Yeah, I'm going to go. T-bar May. Yeah, but Jack all those I guess they're all bad James Mahone. What do you think? The tasting notes will be on the Ultimate Warrior and Undertaker wine. I'm getting Oak flavors mixed with cocaine and steroid. Maybe it's got a like a steroid feel like working out Robert right? Are you guys thinking of ending the podcast now with everything is wrong with wrestling? I certainly hope not a b it's possible Demarcus Moreland would show is cancelled first raw or what's wrong with wrestling when I'm really asking is how much longer can you guys watch this ship? I mean, I mean, we're making it money doing it. Now if you know WWE does get canceled and there's nothing new wrestling faw goes away just like this is the end of wrestling like it reached its breaking point. It's over. There's no more wrestling on TV. We can just start from the beginning. We you know, like Cuz it's like what are we recap? Well, we could just start with the first episode of Raw every week or the charcoal twenty-seven years of material. At least. I know that's a good question leads us to what would we do if little was all gone and I think at this point the probably be more fun. It's so, shows. Are we doing the week right now? We're doing one two, three, maybe for some weeks, you know that we could do a fantasy football which is always wanted to do. Yeah or like just an NFL fantasy episode. Yeah. I'm like a, you know a movie episode. Yeah for sure. I'm sure we'd have enough fans and stuff to venture out sales episode or same broadcast Justin Stewart. If you had to give each of you guys retribution name's what would they be? Do you have the they're on our Facebook page? Yeah. There was a thing that shows taking a month and your day. I was T Jack see Jack I was tough Steel. You were tough steel yourself steel. Yeah network was tough pastrami. I think yeah Buffy the beaver Slayer with the horrible name. Should I be worried that Mercedes and me might steal my name I could hear it. Now here comes Muffy and the Beaver Slayer to attack Sasha from behind. That sounds great. Oh and Rebecca Young. He's who posted it and she's missed Michelle bouts, which is kind of Machete. But yeah, but yeah, it's they're all on here. They're our page Tyrone Griz. I would like a birthday shout-out from Randy Savage and Randy Orton, please and thank you. What's his name? Happy birthday. Grins Tyrone Griz. Yeah, that's really how you do it right there cuz I'm coming from Brevard what maybe he'll you happy birthdays message. Do you think that if we all go and attack Raw superstars for a month? We will get super super contracts because you do whatever want mentioned it earlier on the same page. I mean we'd have to yeah, you gotta do it Damian cut off is retribution. Just a shield rip off with Adam Rose's Entourage. Yes. It is. Probably bake the cake Roberts. I don't remember saying that baked the cake Roberts. Maybe your name worth doing a worst debut gimmick slash table bracket or does retribution now have this as a lock? It's close, but it's hard to beat shockmaster. It really is. Yep, Minnesota. Nice word retribution be better off if tommaso ciampa shut up in a few weeks and a know keep chipping away from this but lay off something like fuck stick. Oh, there's Fox dick. Oh love that guy's fuk stick. It's beard Jack. Yeah, it's ball liquor there. He is bald liquor Mister DeJesus. We got t-bar Mason slapjack. What bout medium in Mercedes Martinez? How about Sonic and Knuckles? Oh love it Keith. Hoffman is every member of Retribution meant to be a lame predator rip-off, or was it just an oversight? Also Andrew which game are you playing on Saturday when you stream on YouTube and twitch? I think you should venture out. Well, they wanted me to play Battlegrounds and I was I looked at the I looked at the like trailer again. I was like, don't think I could do this. What about can you do your N64 stuff? No, no. I mean, not really no. I mean there's ball guys might have already kind of hit its peak, but you're so good at it. So, I don't know if I could you play. Well, I was going to play that Avengers, it's horrible. I know that's bad sad. They've actually for like war zone. Oh, which I really haven't played either but I don't know something will happen. Yeah, but yeah, that's we should all jump on and play like Call of Duty one night. Yeah, that would be cool. And you you're yeah because Matthew has a PC that you could use. Yeah, so you could do that or why we cannot sync up on PlayStation know cuz I it's the my gaming PCs how I owe right? Sure sure. But yeah, that'd be cool. So yeah, Andrew take your t v on Twitch Steve m i now watch you guys over watching Raw smart what you guys ever wrestle each other and if so who would win my money's on Andrew winning a TLC match? Well, we've all wrestled each other, you know, technically technically I mean like when we were kids dead. Yeah, but I mean, you know, we were the bunny Boyd. Yeah, Eric is what's his name be fejo. We had a mad. I've also been sex rock star or thing was Dodge Collins. Our thing. I was you know, we fight we lose too horrible, you know not horrible teams, but you know women and like midgets and then and then we fight each other in the way back and then one night we got a match where wage was just, you know, bich versus bunny. What was our names University? Yeah, and it was like on a rooftop of a parking lot or something a parking. Yes off the top and it was freezing cuz it was like in December. Yes. I still think that was our best Matthew double chokeslam. Yeah. We got out of the ring and went like around the park. Yeah around the fans is great. It was really good. Yeah. I had that whole thing understood highlights. If you if you go on YouTube and you just type bunny boys or Junior wrestling you'll find I mean, there's I've edited two of the shows. I made highlight packages. No one of the show's wage. And it's on our YouTube channel what's wrong with wrestling? So you can find it there doomsday wrestling drove Doshi. Don't watch NXT. Can you give background on the known retribution wrestlers off? Yeah. So died dacovic. Obviously is this big guy in NXT Dominic. Kovac. He never won a title, but he was a really good. He had great matches with Keith Lee. If you go like search page sixteen matches between him and keighley there are really great. Oh that out. Yeah amazing deal mad and really hasn't been on an XC. We don't know what to think. So there's nothing about him just he was a rock commentator for a few months to write me again was a you know, one of the women wrestlers would lose all the time or tall big girls. That could be there. Probably going to be the ones that end up beating. Jack's to seeing the basilar for those titles. We'll see. Yeah and then slapjack the MS now, I'm just getting Ravishing Rick Moranis. What do you think Rey Mysterio's wife thinks being that all these WWE storylines imply that the Mysterio women.
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"Like hey, we'll sign you now and then once the sends you'll come to the company like like she wouldn't travel for TNA. But that's true. Plus you all in one spot a lot more money over a lot more money. They need a replacement for Becky Lynch. They do you think they'd bring her to the main roster or put her on NXT roster? Yeah, they need to they need a Becky replacement. Yeah, and she's good. Now again, she has a lot of allegations about her as well. She does, you know, but it's more of just being a bitch right? Well and I think there are some racist allegations and there's a show I don't know but yeah, but everybody doesn't really care about that shit. Yeah. Also Charlotte Flair did an interview with sports Hiatus and she said I'll only be gone for a few weeks. No one is going to miss me while she's right about that true. I hope she's trolling, you know, but I guess she'll be back for SummerSlam. Yeah, and then Jamie Noble has, Georgia. The young Kayla Braxton and Adam Pearce has WWE employees who have gone public with their positive covid-19 tests. I mean, there's Thirty or so fairly young age. What else you got any news? I don't have any news. All right rumor time. Kevin Owens wins back the universal title. Maybe Balor Club to finally get a second member Brock Lesnar willingly Works a full schedule. No chance next year's WrestleMania will be in Saudi Arabia off. So this is also covid-19. Right in Austin. Wasn't there sir? Right and then he says also Kevin Dunn wasn't allowing any fans in the crowd to wear masks. Of course this week. They let they took a lot of them were wearing masks and now apparently they just made it mandatory. Of course that's not allowed to wear masks. You one hundred percent after wear masks looking idiots. And then here's the one you've been waiting for Thursday of Meltzer reported that WWE has booked the 8,000 seat RP funding Center in Lakeland, Florida for the July 24th episode of SmackDown and the July 27th episode of birth. Vince wants to run shows with fans. Again ASAP. There's no way there's no way there's no way those numbers are like rising in Texas, Florida. Yeah, right. So on top of that page I have The rocket mortgage field house has in Cleveland has a new listing for a Monday Night Raw on September 28th, which that's the rescheduled Smackdown taping. Okay from April they yeah, but and then fight full put a list of events that are still scheduled to take place. I mean if any of these happened we don't know Thursday, July 31st and Fort Worth a Smackdown SummerSlam weekend Austin funny thing about that is we'd have to they that's still on but boss already said no SummerSlam will not be here. Yeah again, right the arena already said no, it will not be raw September 7th and Omaha certain age. Yeah. There's a lot listed please leave the rest. That's how they get. Twenty. Twenty-One scheduled. Yeah. No. Yeah, they're not going to cancel them until the very last night until it's red. Right now so and then also Sports media reports that Gallows and Anderson have signed with Impact Wrestling and it also allows them to work with New Japan. Yeah, whenever they can fly to Japan again. Yeah, I mean have a ticket still to Boston. If you know SummerSlam happens, which probably that's a you bought that's a ticket that you could. You could swap out for anything else. Well, it was originally my ticket to Tampa WrestleMania, which I swapped to Boston. Yes. I might have to swap it out for something else. You can just keep swapping keep swapping swapping then you I don't know. I'll call him and see right but like I want to hear like them officially cancel the event and if they hold it somewhere and maybe I can sneak taking their good luck. All right. Trivia time, right? All right, speaking of T A lot TNA Total Nonstop Action scripts called impact impact damage and a whenever the history is there's so many names. Another one like Jenex or some bullshit. I forgot what it was. I was something else, huh? That was Billy corgan's wage, but they have like a pen right then he'd bring will first see bought TNA. Yes. Now he's now he owns NWA whatever just go ahead. Yeah. Anyway, this is which of the song Is popular wrestlers did not make an appearance on a t n a TV episode OK shinsky Nakamura is this only is really going to be one person off the one person. Okay, shouldn't stay pretty sure he did Dean Ambrose Moxley razor. He did Johnny Gargano. Tommaso ciampa CM Punk or they all did it's either Gargano or they all did Punk dead. Yes dead. When when Raven was in TNA. He was part of like Raven's flock. Really? Yeah. I know Champa death. Yeah, the only one I'm not I know obviously and I know Nakamura am not sure of his Gargano, but gargano's like in his thirties, I would say he definitely did I'm going to say yeah, I'm going to say all of them did her I'll go I'll go with all of them off you're on the right path. You guys pretty much had it. It's Gargano know it is he had a dark match it never aired on T. Now couch. For this. Can you see it? You can't no way Jose Google tiene. Dark matches. You won't find any. Yeah. Yeah CM Punk was part of ravens Quast. Yeah, right Raven's flock a lot of these guys. Only Rush. So like one match. Yeah, but anyway, yeah, what was his what was this group called raven? I don't remember just kidding but shouldn't have a raven's flock shouldn't have just be called Ravens. My name is a group of crows is a is burger I'd be fun is a crow raven. Yeah a Raven's Nest. It was called Raven's Nest. Oh Jesus, that's worse Raven. I thought a crow was raven then he's formed a new version called the Gathering. So he had a few Jesus. Oh, wow. I know he's Slater's also teasing, you know showing up to slammiversary cuz they feel like could go to we talked about this. I feel like they could go to impact. Yeah, and it wouldn't be held against them. Right? Cuz if you go to a w then they're going to be like will fuck you bitch. Yeah, you're going to our competition you go to impact cuz that's not competition anyone. That's basically our farm league at this point. It's 64 like I mean if you look at who's on the WWE roster today? Right, it's everyone from TNA ten years ago. Yeah, right AJ Styles Samoa Joe Bobby Roode. I mean there's Capital Ashley. Yeah. Yeah this it's pretty much all of them. Yep. All right fan questions. Vanguard to is there a.
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"tommaso ciampa" Discussed on The Bower Show Podcast
"And this is where we saw. Diy Reunite in that cage and they both hit their Tag Team Finisher on black. That was the double knees there to Alison Black and that was a pretty cool moment there and Kinda made you scratch your head and in wondering where things were going Dr try. Yeah to me. It was kind of like the If diy was dark is do yourself darkness in yourself was it was my take on diy but it was really was a what hanger like? You're happy to see them back together. Like if that's the way it was going you're like Oh wow. They're they might reunite and this be kind of cool. Then you're like anytime you're like. I really want them. Being villains was as it was awesome an awkward at the same time but it still wasn't. Were like man I i. You couldn't turn away from it because it was still re really good even if you didn't fully understand where it was going to hit a January twenty six two thousand and nineteen as Johnny Gargano wins gold and diy stand tall on an exceeded close out and take takeover Phoenix that evening earlier than I. Johnny Gargano Defeats Ricochet to become the new. Nfc North American champion Walter Muscle Champa retain the title over Alston Black Gargano defeated ricochet with the brain buster on the exposed concrete outside the ring fall by slingshot. Ddt inside the ring for the pin and the show included with Johnny Gargano appearing on the stage with Tomasa Champa as they each held up championship goal to close out the show and other one of those moments where the title screen the caption at the bottom. The closing moment graphic and It was both those guys reunited on top of annexed. Dr Trae. Yeah in. This is almost forgotten timeline of this but in a lot of ways you're like man this actually led to black and ricochet teaming up for a while as well like this is kind of like a precursor to what we saw them. You know both teams going to run smack down. I think But yeah just those were actually just really good matches. I think get overlooked. Because it's not Gargano versus CIAMPA. You that people love so much the these these are both outstanding matches with four really top notch competitors We'RE GONNA go to February twentieth. Two Thousand and Nineteen John Are GonNa Loses the North American championship developing dream. The most notable moment from this match was to Moscow Champa a sense of pity win Johnny Ghana lost. I was the first time we saw Johnny Gargano and to Moscow Champa or more an ugly Tomasso Champa have have blackheart a heart toward gender. God's title loss. It was a very small moment in this few Dr Trae but This is when we started seeing pity. Conference champions two to Johnny Gargano. Yeah we had seen moments of Gargano do that with shop. Go back to the broken crutch spot where he questioned himself with you. Want him and it's like all right. We'll we've seen CIAMPA will do is completely ruthless will do whatever it takes to win In we started see Johnny. Get that you know that aggressive in this moment you go wait. Ciampa does he does care about Johnny. Like it was things where it's like just shows you the depth of these characters that you'll they'll they'll feud they get back together you know break apart like it's just more layers of emotional content laid upon the viewing audience. Yeah Tomas Champa felt pity for Johnny Gargano that he suggested that. Diy reunite for the dusty Rhodes tactic classic and that started on March six two thousand nineteen a diy defeated the undisputed air in the first round on March six but ended up losing to alyce black and ricochet who eventually went on to win that year's tournament on March Thirteenth in the semifinals on TV. It was also during this time. That diy was tagging on the main roster getting victories over the revival and the bar in the match against also black and ricochet on May Thirteenth. They came out to the diy theme song with matching gear. And the now I D I y blue shirt Then in an oath to their NFC take Chicago match against AARP. Johnny Garner was nursing an injury while a frustrated CIAMPA tempted to pick up the pieces. Unfortunately it backfired in one place. One well-placed black mass fall by six thirty splash force. Diy Out of the tournament. Kinsley Ray ran down to the ring to check on her husband into Moscow Champa uncharacteristically put-down Goldie has his. Nfc Championship to check on our Gano. This misaligned sympathy was unlike anything we'd seen from CIAMPA in months as a to walked up to stage in full sail university together chopper briefly stared at the Doc- Roach taxing classic trophy. Then attempted to throw Johnny Gargano into the led stage cleverly. Johnny knew how the scenario would play out so he faked the injury and then reverse it by throwing chop into the stage following up with a super kick kind cheered in approval at this point in time it looked like diy Jennifer Garner that the best of Tomato Champa it appeared that for months Jonah. Devise a plan to grow closer to Champa only to see the champion. Let his guard down and become more trusting so johnny got evil tapped into his dark side to get a little bit closer to chop on the black heart. Doctor Try yeah this was What's the Um beautifully well-done once the only thing I didn't like about it was you got black and ricocheted advancing the doc- tournament because like I just want one real tag team to win the first thing the Arizona but like outside? That's always been like mismatch. Tag Teams But just with in reference to Gargano and job just beautifully laid out. Slow burn storytelling At its finest with us in the end result with Johnny getting the upper hand Tomasa was just kind of out of nowhere. And we're just like wow. That was just incredibly well done because you can go back and look at all. The sees that were planted in laid out to where you finally get to your final harvest. There was just beautifully. Well done and of course once again. This feud was snake bitten as Tomato. Champa had suffered an injury park to Was revealed after this segment that Tomas O. Champa injured his neck and required immediate surgery as a result most notably Gano Chapel. Were supposed to face one another antics. He takeover New York that weekend Or that Later in a couple of weeks and we even heard that CIAMPA wanted to wrestle mismatch so we could drop the title it was not medically cleared to do so so unlike that time next take up. Chicago when he knew that he tours. Acl and they let them go out there and wrestle they did not let him Russell mismatched. Even drop the title to Johnny Gargano and keep glimmer of hope. Alive in the feud Gargano went onto defeat Adam Cole. Nfc TAKEOVER NEW YORK on April Fifth. Two Thousand and nineteen eighty two out of three falls match in one of the greatest. Nfc matches ever following the conclusion of the match and emotional Johnny Gargano celebrated with his wife candace as they made their way up the ramp to conclude the show. Familiar face emerge from back to Moscow champa instead of attacking johnny that the three embrace in one of the most emotional moments in recent memory for split-second fans saw the real chop celebrate with his best friend. This was an amazing moment. Dr Trae and It was pretty cool to see them kind of pull back the curtain and just got an opportunity to really celebrate this championship. It made no sense restore lines stamp because the last time we saw champ of prior to this he was born in an led stage but we were told basically to Kinda throw everything out the window and just go. You know what cave this? Yeah this is my earlier when you go back and you see how close Gargano gotten a few of the Andrade then the chances yeah with with Ciampi when the belt and then to finally captured in that unites to that match. We've we've done shows on that match. It was fantastic. Gargano overcoming all the obstacles in everything thrown at him during that match and everything else he'd overcome to get still one of the best crowd reactions I have ever seen for an NFC wwe But just that Cathartic emotional release of Johnny finally capturing the title Just really well done and yeah. You're right that the the ending onstage was weird But you know if you know the deeper story you know these guys backgrounds beautiful But just one of those moments that you watch it and you're like yeah. I know where I was going to happen. And I I remember how I felt when I saw it. Ciampa returns and DIY reunites for the third time. During this time we saw Johnny Gargano Feud With Adam Cole over the NFC championship at execute. Take over twenty five hundred. I two thousand eighteen drop in the NFC title to Adam Cole. That evening and then they would battle it out again at him calling Johnny Gargano and Take Toronto on August tenth. Two thousand nine hundred and losing again to Adam Cole and two out of three falls match. That's all I singles match streetfight and barbed wire steel cage match. Stipulations for each of the falls fast forward to October second the very first episode of Annex Television Against Awa dynamite and tomorrow champ return from injury to confront Adam Cole and start a feud as the Wednesday night wars began on the October twenty third episode of annex t gone on Champa reunited again to face the undisputed air alongside Finn Baylor It was during this segment. That Ballard famously attack are as the undisputed air assaulted Tomasz. Oh Champ so we get some sort of reunion here. Dr Trae prior to this last time on annexing television outside of the NFC takeover New York moment was Jennifer Garner throwing champion to the led board but they found common ground in their hatred for Adam Cole. Mensa speeded era as they are moving forward here in the fall. Two Thousand Nineteen. Yeah and that's still on the best moments The last couple of years in wrestling was you know the he turn of Baylor on Gargano. Just came out of nowhere in the look on trump's face when ballard hits the. Palay kick like what the Hell just happened. And then he gives jobs Just at that point before that turn you see the match out there. The face off with Chop Gargano and Ballard gets as we like man. This could be really good. The three of them against the era and then the entire segment decay goes completely the opposite direction. And we're left sitting there going to happen but this was really great and the lie that was because of the emotions that we'd have vested in Ghana and trump together moving forward there. Tomasa Champa feuds with Adam Cole industry to error why Johnny feud with Finn. Baylor was during this time there was not much interaction between trump. Gargano had their separate feuds going on Champa with the industry to Darren Gargano within Belarus's I previously mentioned most notably. Gargano was set to face fan dollar and actually takeover war games on November twenty third two thousand nineteen but was forced out due to a neck injury and was replaced by Matt Riddle Chump. His team consisting of keithly dodger. Cova Kevin Owens ended up defeated the undisputed air in a war games match that evening as well Gargano would return to annex TV on December..
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"The summer of two thousand eighteen. We witnessed a bunch more aggressive side. John are gone. But Johnny's obsession with exacting revenge out to Moscow Champa backfired during that episode on Annex. Tv Interferes Tomasz champion for black match by accidentally hitting black with the NFC championship causing champion to take advantage and become the new champion. A triple threat match was scheduled for all three minute takeover Brooklyn but following a parking lot. At Tech that left black unconscious he was deemed. Unable to compete the attacker was never identified which led to many weeks worth of speculation. It was also around this time. Also black I believe had a groin injury and was out for several months during this time but this was a really interesting. Turn Dr Trae as Johnny Gargano starts to get a little bit more aggressive and ends up accidentally helping to Moscow champa become the new NFC champion it. Kinda played into the commentary. Line that you talked about earlier about like you know as Johnny you know becoming what he despises and you know that that that instance I just thought was beautifully done as well because it was like you know. He's trying to extract his revenge instead he ends up helping the guy that he despises the most And it led into the Almost like the JR from Dow's like who shot Jr like who's got alsir black and in a way. It kinda helped elevate talents. Well I remember Nikki Dick Cross was was real. She really did a great job to this. Whole thing with Nicki knows and stuff like it helped. Elevate the rest of the roster during the search because you start to see personality traits and Care Death. Come out from everybody. That regal is questioning so the once again. This is a really good aspect of this. Viewed played out on TV Let's go to Brooklyn floor. The August eighteenth from August eighteenth two thousand eighteen Johnny Gargano versus Tomasa champion. A last man standing match for the title the two fought all over the arena until eventually making their way to the stage where Ghana appear to be in control until he made one fatal mistake Johnny handcuffed Champa but in an effort to perform the running knee. Gorgonio fell from the stage and landed onto equipment as referee to nine. Champa manage to roll off the stage while the handcuffs kept him elevated on. Its feet chopper one and remained the NFC champ. Maybe my favorite match from this entire feud between these guys because I remember watching it home going. Garganas could become the champion. This is awesome. I can't wait to see it and the ending was something that I've never seen before professional wrestling. Comic completely off guard was an extremely creative. Which you know is a big part of this. Entire feud being so successful the amount of creativity about both these guys. Dr Trae I love this match. It was a great ending segment and told a much bigger story of Johnny Gargano beans so close but Going against the grain of what he commonly does and Kinda fallen in line of that aggressive side that to Moscow was trying to get out of them. Yeah I to me like the matches I liked to better than three match wise. I liked the ending of this one better than and what's he had never seen that ending before especially with handcuffs. Never seen that done just beautifully played out and the great thing about this is what's again Gargano. Getting close but not getting it leads into happen later on when he finally won the title but just that whole storyline way was played out beautiful match in like you know two and three. I have gone back watched several times since the happen and I don't do that. A lot of wrestling matches but these two just two and three were two to my favorite matches of all time. Let's go doctor over twenty four. Th Two thousand eighteen is Johnny Gargano reveals himself as the mystery attacked her of Also black several months passed by and during the October twenty fourth. Two Thousand Eighteen episode of G Gano attacked Allaster black and it was officially reveal that it was indeed johnny wrestling who laid out black months earlier in the parking lot. It was also during this time they gonNA turn to the dark side. Thanks TO HIS BATTLES WITH O. Champa DR trae yeah. It wasn't really a huge fan of the turns of the dark side here. And I remember telling you it kind of feels like they're testing the waters for something like maybe they might do this down the road full speed ahead but it just didn't feel natural right away like I I kind of felt forced But it was it was to be like I'm in my head. Every time I think about this I always picture visit man yelling. It was me Austin just kind of felt like Yoga Yogarajan had that look as face without actually verbalizing it but just to me it IT I. This is maybe the one aspect of the feud. I didn't like because at the time we had seen Gargano be more aggressive but once again Janis is not the best in the world and they were trying to present them comes a bad ass and I'm like it doesn't really fit who he is at this point but I could see it being like a precursor to something down the road But Yeah I think this is just an excuse to get Gargano and black in a ring and let him go at it. Without the fans being divided on cheer for.
"tommaso ciampa" Discussed on The Bower Show Podcast
"It's GonNa be like there'd be like Brett you'll just a really solid tag team that people love and if they go singles we will still love him. the net takes us to. Nfc TAKE CHICAGO ON. May Twentieth two thousand seventeen at that point. I remember feeling like as I said before that this split was going to happen and That this did happen in a very classic match and attacked him ladder match they They lose two. Gop The night before to Moscow Champa gets injured at a live event. More on that in just a second and The closing sequence of that night with DIY even though they lost getting a resounding an amount of affection from the fans in Chicago that night a very classic event by the way and exceed takeover. Chicago back in two thousand Seventeen Champa turned on our Ghana by throwing him into the led board to close out the show and just beat the crap out of them. In a shocking moment for fans at home for fans in the arena it was perfect from arresting storyline standpoint. Dr trae probably one of if not the most classic moment from this entire feud To Moscow Champa turn Johnny Gargano went throwing them into the led board. And I if I'm not mistaken and you're a little more historian than I am at times. Was this one the first house we saw the you know the little. Wwe ex-team monitor in the corner like the show when the shows ending then they stuck with it and it was like why is this taking so long and to this day. I don't know if anybody said I've always wondered what Gargano whispered in in chapel whispered and Garganas ear right but through four thousand Bailey because see that hug Gorgon CIAMPA say something to Johnny and I've always wondered is he actually saying something shoots owns a cafe as far as what he says. The Johnny right there but the This is my moment one. Is that what he says he was in his ear? Like he says this is my moment then throws him into the led board. And I remember McConnell's like what yeah throws isn't always wondered because I never heard that always wondered what he said but then he throws in the led board. The beatdown happens. And then when you find out you're second would with the the injury that trump has suffered the night before light to still do all that stuff to pull that angle off just shows what kind of love and passion that man has for wrestling and that was really one of the first true glimpses into how much that guy loves pro wrestling and how much they love each other like. It's it really is like a really bad. Like break-up like emotional love story. I mean it's it's it's Affleck in Lopez breaking up. Jeff I mean that's how I felt and takes us to our next point. Here is Tomato. Champa suffers a tornado. Acl The night before annex takeover Chicago despite wrestling the event CIAMPA did so on a Tornado C. L. and announced the injury on the May thirty first edition of Annex TV That would put him out indefinitely for the rest of the year. We wouldn't see him return until January twenty eighteen but Man This was like a Gut Punch because we got something so amazing but it may have been like the best thing to happen to it. Because they didn't shock on it they let it breathe for a little bit and allow more character depth for Johnny Gargano. Which will be our next point here but What a bunch of punch your doctor. Trae for tomorrow o. Is suffering a tornado after defining moment? Yeah I mean it. It was one of those things where you're like you get so excited for something because we see that moment and I remember you and I talking about like just after like that was amazing. That was one of the best turns we had seen in in quite a long time and this is quickly taken away from you like. Yeah that was great. But YOU'RE NOT GONNA get to see it for a while how plays out But for the fact that like I like that CIAMPA wrestled Probably was a fifteen twenty minute. Match on a torn. Acl Like that. That just still to this day. Blows me away that you can do that. Like it was just incredible in believe it was a ladder match to wasn't it? It was there was a ladder match. Like how you wrestle match with a torn. Acl just blows me away like but that's nothing but okay. This is the angle we have to do this just gut it out. And you don't do that unless what you're doing is something absolutely love. And that takes us to some of the character depth following this so Johnny Gargano then is on his own and would typically when these moments happened. It could be like a sink or swim deal for for these wrestlers because now they've lost ten momentum instead they completely one eight hundred and utilize the storyline to perfection as Johnny Gargano. Spends this time now to rediscover who? He is in an xt so the betrayal of tomato champion Annex Takeover. Chicago weighed undergone undergarments. Mind as he started to find himself. there was a losing stretch. He went on shortly thereafter such as matches to android NFC takeover Brooklyn three which was a fantastic match the moment and that one is Alina Vega throwing diy shirt at him and then towards the end of two thousand seventeen. We start seeing gyro ending up to to finally find himself in in re ref- redefining who johnny wrestling is as he ends up winning a number one contenders fatal four way match for the NFC championship by defeating Killeen Dane. Also black and Lar Sullivan. On December twenty seven th two thousand seventeen episode of annex t Gargano on Pin Alison Black. Thanks to distract from Adam Cole. Gargano all those guys. That point in time in annexed was the least likely to win and he ended up being the number one contender to face andrade. Cnn Almaz then known at the time on January twenty seventh twenty eighteen at NFC takeover Philadelphia. But I loved this character death Dr Trae because like I was a fan of Johnny Gargano then but when they started adding this like trying to find himself and how much this entire thing with Jomo CIAMPA was playing on his mind. They really went into another gear with getting fans. Truly care about Johnny Gargano. Yeah it was weird for me because I remember early on when he was first getting those first promos about. I don't know who I am. I don't know what to do. I was like man. This is just not you know. Your typical baby-faced Promo use your baby are full of positivity and energy in data and these were like kind of always me promos and a Lotta Times. Those can kind of go the wrong way. And you don't get that sympathy but then when you see those matches with. Andrade in in those matches were so damn good and it helped put Andrew O.`day over even more because there were fantastic. You know like matches the watch you start to feel like he's getting so close he so close every time And it allowed that people to kind of even get more sympathy for Gargano even after the the be doubt like you get that great turn. Were trump beats them down and usually the next time you see the baby face. I'm out for fire and Venom and I'm going to get my revenge on that guy for turning his back on me and we didn't get that it was it. You could feel the heartbreak you know. And that's not something that people can usually pull off trying to get across TV so it really did. Add that depth of character. In my time I get that fatal flaw away like you and I remember Pretty Michaud. You were like Gargoyles Brian. This massive take the pin fall because Larsen even they were building up. I don't think he had been pinned by anybody. At that point. Also black had been pinned by anybody that point and killing Dane was the beast so we all thought Gorgon was in the Mash to take the fall to put the other guys over and it completely flipped on us. in allows invest in that character. Even more let's go to January. Twenty seven twenty eight. Annex Philadelphia and the return of Tomato Champa despite the losing effort to Andrade CNN for the antics championship match a match. The year candidate in two thousand eighteen four. Johnny Oregon Gargano despite losing the NFC championship an opportunity to capture it. That evening as Ghana was leaving the ring with chance of thank you Johnnie in Philadelphia Tomasz Champa return and struck are GonNa with his crutch to close out antics he takeover Philadelphia another moment where that little credit at the end at the bottom of the corner of the screen was a plane. Great Way to close the show. Amazing Match Dr. Trade pointed out as well how much this helped elevate andrade CNN. As well. And I completely agree Gargano almost at that point in annexed prior to this feud and even the title for a frond dry were Like good good workers. But there wasn't a lot depth to them and It really elevated their game. Great match the return of Chop Dr Trae and we were full speed ahead of seen. Gargano Champa finally battle and now yeah and you go back that time with Andrade right before he got the belt. I used to call me. Gatekeeper Vinik St. Like every time they brought somebody in new they put in the Ring Andrade and it was one of these around drought. It was a good wrestler that made everybody look good and that these matches with with with Gargano leading up that one in Philadelphia elevated Andrade where people go man okay. Yeah he's ready. He's money now. You can move them up and they did shortly thereafter You know thinking back on some of this stuff here with with this return of chop and everything else remember like there was also those matches where they had on raw where we're bringing some exte- guys and deaf actor as well which I don't if that was before after this but you know that measure Philidelphia felt like Gargano Swansong in annex t like I thought legit that hey they might be moving johnny up because we go five live and it tastes the main Rosser. Maybe this is is. It was almost like this point. You had you knew CIAMPA was around but you didn't know what as we come back and it just was the perfect timing that it felt like this was johnny leaving an boom right back into the banks as the old the old Mob thing you know just what I think I'm out they pull me back in. That's how I felt to me like I thought Johnny was out and then Champa pulled him back into the pit Let's go to February two thousand eighteen now. Ciampa getting Johnny Gargano fired from annexed e. I think this is one of those moments that is often forgotten about whatever reason and I think it may have been the most the poorest way the storyline was executed was this entire firing storyline. So back on television Johnny Gargano challenges on to a rematch with the stipulation of Donald Loses. He must leave next forever. GotTa Remember Selena Vega was saying that you know we've beaten you twice already why we face again Dating back to the match. Nfc Takeover Brooklyn Three. And then the one that happened at exit takeover Philadelphia the month prior So Gargano had his t career on the line to Moscow. Champa causes interference in that match causing johnny onto lose for It's actually the fourth time and being forced to leave an xt. So at that point. Johnny Gargano had faced Andrade three times by mistake and lost him for fourth time and was no longer part of annex t thanks to to Moscow Champa which gives another famous moment during that angle where to Moscow champ is like an stands just waving goodbye to Johnny Gargano and I remember that played in in a lot of packages to open up annex t week to week so tomorrow champ again he got Johnny Gargano fired from. Nfc Dr Try Yeah. I didn't dislike as much as you did. A many because usually in WBZ with these weird random gimmicks in there like you careers are on the line. It's like Oh that just means that means giants put his colonel and he's GonNa win. They're not they're not getting rid of Gorgon..
"tommaso ciampa" Discussed on The Bower Show Podcast
"Champa feud from start to as it stands right now finish. I am one. After the show I am Jeff. Peck joined every single week on my costs. Only only Dr Franklin Doctor Trae we are about probably cover. The best feud that has gone on during the entire S. Rt YOU air. Yeah I. It's definitely since I start Because I don't know when the Owens Kevin Sammy Zane Capstein Elgin. Air Coffee was ending But it was before I started on to you so in the modern era of S. RT. You it is absolutely the best viewed. It is It's an amazing feud the reason why. Like there's definitely soft soft place in my heart for the Kevin Owens Kevin Steen El Erico feud from ring of honor like that is to me like one of the best year. Long feuds that I can ever remember. This is like right up there and we're going to go through this and what's crazy about. This feud is it's about four years nearly three and a half to four years and I know when you when we look back at a lot of lot of the issues as to why it was so long because there were like multiple injuries To to CIAMPA one a Gorgon that that slowed things down. But it's just an amazing metamorphosis of characters and it's very very similar to generic. Oh and Kevin Steen ironically enough Guys that tagged with one in generic and seen and and two guys in Champa and Gargano that also tagged with one another and similar to Stena generic. Oh that is extremely relatable to the wrestling fan. You know there's a lot of parallels here we are gone. We watched Champa grow up before our eyes The same thing we did with Steven Generic. Oh as well to even now to what we see today enrolled. Russ entertainment with Kevin Owens and Sami Zane so there's a lot of different parallels air and I think there's this emotional investment that fans have into these characters especially are gone on Champa As there was with steam generic. Oh what's cool about these guys is like. I remember watching Champa at those shows as a I think he was like the project to Moscow champ and then when I saw him pop up in annex t He wasn't as good as you when I saw him in the late nineties or ninety late two thousands Early two thousand ten's he wasn't an amazing worker. That was like Oh this guy's the future but then when you saw him years later in annexed he quickly became one of the best workers potentially in the last decade Certainly in the last three years both of these guys Johnny Gargano Tomas Champa so the story begins Doc trae on August third two thousand sixteen and it starts at the cruiserweight classic A one time turn with we did on the network and John Tomasz Champa battle each other in the first round. The match lasted just over ten minutes. It was extremely compelling compelling aspect of that match was to Moscow Chambas unwillingness to pull the trigger as he contemplated landing the running knee from the corner to Johnny Gargano The psycho killer at a moment compassionate cost them the match and in the end carjon world champion to advance to round two It was a very classic moment that they ended up replay multiple times in the middle of the ring next to one another On the ground arms around each other very classic shot from the Cruise Way Classic and that all started at the cruiserweight classic tournament back on August. Third Two Thousand Sixteen Dr Trae any memories from that match the Chris Way Classic with those to you in kind. It's weird because you go back to that time. And neither guy was really highly regarded. A like like yeah. These guys are good but we didn't. We didn't know they would get to the level of kind of like they're almost shoehorned into the tournament. Like you saw this laundry list guys who really work in an xt. It was cedric. Enter wasn't an NFC. All these guys that we see now weren't so having Gargano Chop kind of gone there against each other was kind of like all right. This is kind of like. They're throwing them a bone because they're did exceed and they've had some good matches up to this point. We'll see how it goes in you know. Also it was two guys that were friendly. But they weren't as close as they would get coming out of this like they. They became friends. But seeing these guys in there is like wow. These guys have a special chemistry. Got a special kind of thing. Going here There's this question of how is going to play out and where to go. But it was one of the highlights of the tournament that people it almost gets lost Because of the highlights of the rest of the cruiserweight classic but that was a phenomenal. First Round Matchup Between two guys that were on the indies but weren't really known within the mainstream of. Wwe WANNA give a shout out here too by the way to progressing stories dot com. Who helped a lot of the prep for this edition of the show so go check that out as well. If you'd like to see that a recap of this amazing few Jennifer gone on to Moscow Champa next phase of this story. Diy doesn't win the annex SEATAC titles or the Dusty Rhodes Acting Classic. It was also during this time. The DIY lost the revival in an NFC tactile match annex takeover Brooklyn to on August twentieth. Two Thousand Sixteen. I was there for that match. It was pretty cool I. Then they lost the authors of pain and the Doc- rotating classic semi-finals on November seventh. Two Thousand Sixteen so as tag attacking. This is where they started to to really blossomed. Dr Trae was during this time at NFC takeover Brooklyn to. They had the crowd in the palm of their hands They were making some waves in the tax division in Exte- but end up losing to authors pain who ended up winning the entire tournament on November seventh the Shirley before their match against a revival takeover. Toronto which will get to here in the next point. But this is when you started to see the build of diy in annexed and they were kind of Your the scrappy underdogs. Everybody you cheer for them. Because that's what you're doing with baby faces but they were kind of like you know when you had the others of pain When you had the revival American Alpha was still kind. Of on the periphery there. Were still kind of lingering right before they got called up. You had tm six one. That was Kinda hyped up. You know with them coming in so. Diy was kind of like the forgotten team but they were the equivalent of what Danny Burch and only Larkin are now like they were just a really solid tag team that you could put into the mix they would have great matches and but he didn't know if you had anything special even at this point yet they were just too damn good workers that could get a compelling match of Tags and you put on the ring with I remember. They won the number one contenders for the TAG team. Titles in the summer like July that year and it was really weird because at that point they were like jobbers in annex t when they became number one contender. It's like this this matches going GonNa Stink and they started getting a lot of momentum on. Nfc television the full sail crowd loved them. They loved them since they debuted in annexed like months prior. I think it was like September October. Two Thousand Fifteen are they. Were in that. First Dusty Rhodes texting classic thrown together pair But yeah you started seeing the momentum carry in a carry itself to the pinnacle which takes place on November Nineteenth. Two Thousand Sixteen. Diy Wins an exciting goal that antics takeover Toronto It's a classic match. The third fall is the most memorable from that match with both dash in Dawson simultaneously tapping out thus making. Diy The new tag team champions at this point diy reached the pinnacle of their successes. Attacked him in a match of the year performance. It was an amazing match. Dr Trae One of the best acting matches. I think we've ever covered in this show here that Match between the revival and diy the two out of three falls match from antics he takeover Toronto as diy became our new NFC. Tag Team Champions. Yeah it was. Was We ones where like on one hand. We were sitting here. I remember I was kind of doing the prediction. What hand you're like. Well revivals got to be moving up here at some point but they also you so if they do so they dropped the belts. Drop it to champion. Gano and it was. It was like yeah. They got a good bill behind him. The crowds getting full sail. Loves them but you know were they ready to pull the trigger and when you wash that match back like it is just fantastic from start to finish like though I mean that timing x t like when you had the America through viable to diy like those matches were so great and you can put any kind of combination together and they were going to be fantastic and this is kind of what cemented DIY has. Hey these guys were there together. They're an elite level tactic. They can have fantastic matches with technicians. Flyers brawlers doesn't matter and it was like you excited because you felt like it was unexpected like you knew the revival against the main roster some point. But you know we're was the belt to maybe a little more hyped up than this thrown together tag team that just kind of got on a roll and It worked at match was great. They've played off that thing so many times since The revival has played off fat in matches on the main roster sits Because it was so good that you try take aspects of it and fit it into matches later on but just one of those ones where you watch your back even three years later. And you're like man that was just so damn good to watch The rendered around this time they were holding the tag team championships. You sorta seeing seeds being planted of tomato champ turning on Johnny Gargano here and that would be the break of diy and that was like the expectation moving forward and We had to January twentieth two thousand seventeen and actually takeover San Antonio. Diy Loses the NFC tag team championship. Ceo P that night l. p. was expected to To win many fans including US during that time felt like Champa was going to turn and it didn't happen that night. Then there was also a triple threat elimination match for the NFC Tactic Championship between diy. And the that was a great match often forgotten about that we thought was going to lead to a split and didn't as Aarp retain the revival moved up to the main roster Matt Annex Takeover Orlando on April. First two thousand seventeen so for about like a four month. Run Dr Trae. We were feeling like Oh. Diy break up break up to break up. It didn't happen and at this point I felt like back then. We were invested in them. Remain is attacking going forward from that point forward especially when you get your own. T shirts made up almost you on some level. I'm thinking of the Chris Jericho to AJ. Yeah WHY TO J. T T shirts made that means you got break up and yet the DIY shirts out there and people were buying them up. And I'm like man that's gotta be a symbol that they're gonNA turn right away and he didn't do it and and it was the Senate Tonio one. I really remember that being one where I thought it was going to happen because Shawn michaels hometown in. Gargano is a huge Shawn. Michaels family. It's Shawn Michaels and just waiting for that to happen. In that building in didn't happen I was like with you. I'm like man. Maybe they're not going to pull the trigger. Maybe we need the baby faces around. Maybe they break up and go separately and stay on singles rods but as baby faces But I kept waiting for because I remember CIA from ring of Honor. Much like you did. And what a good healy was and I was like man concern. Chop has guy go. He'll just because like he's so good at it And Gargano sympathetic white me beatty phase. They everybody loves but they didn't pull the trigger at this point. I'm like okay. I'm in on there..