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A highlight from Unplugged #76 - Megan Gauer and Calvin Wetzel
"What hey her hoops that's fans. Welcome to another episode of her hoop stats unplugged as always you're here with Megan Geller. And for all of those of you who celebrate, I hope you had a great Thanksgiving, great time off, hopefully got to see some friends, family enjoy the holiday. We took a short little holiday break from the podcast, but we are back this week. And NCA basketball certainly did not take a break for the holiday weekend. Lots of craziness, lots of Thanksgiving tournaments. So plenty to discuss today. To do that, I am here with Calvin whitsell from our her hoops team. Hey Calvin, how's it going? Hey, Megan, I'm good. How are you doing? Doing well, we've got lots to talk about this week. It's been like two weeks since we're recorded and had like turkey tournament madness for the last two weeks. Basically every team other than South Carolina, the top 5 or 6 has lost a game at this point. It's been chaos. So lots to talk about lots to try to decide what it all means, but very exciting basketball over the last week and a half or so. Absolutely. Since that time of year, when everyone loses and usually no one knows who the best team is, I think we do this here. No one knows what the second best team is, but that's what makes that last week in November. So fun every year. Yeah, exactly. Lots of big games. I feel like we learned a lot about a lot of these teams too. I think seeing them up against each other is like the best way to try to learn who's really on top and where the holes are, I think you can take so much from who they're playing outside of the top ten teams, but really those top ten matchups. I think is where you learn the most. So we've got quite a bit of that over the last week and a half here, so lots to talk about. I think starting with the number one versus number two, South Carolina, took down Yukon in the battle for Atlanta's final pretty hefty win by the end of it 73 57 South Carolina stays on top, really looks like I think the team to beat right now. And you can fell down to three, but they're already back in that number two spot in the bowl quickly afterwards following the rest of the Thanksgiving chaos. Yeah, yeah, a lot of people aren't gonna like this, they're probably gonna be pretty mad at me for saying this and that's fine, but Yukon is the second best team. I think you guys still look mes team. They asked by 16. Everyone else lost someone else too. So I don't know who else is the second best team at this point. But the fact that they're the second best team in South Carolina just completely took them out of what they wanted to do in the second half and especially the fourth quarter. They scored three points in the fourth quarter. And this is probably the second bestie at worst is the third best team in the country scored three points in an entire quarter. I think that tells you a lot more about South Carolina than anything just when they really get locked in what they can do to you. Yeah. And I think in that game what we really saw and we've seen in a couple of games I think sense the game. Now too, it's just only a boss and really going off. I mean, she had 22 points, 15 rebounds, like this distance. I guess the number two team in the country does not a good anyone against the number two team in the country. I think we've seen her kind of comment to her own South Carolina's really using her in the paint. I think even in the beginning of that game, kind of when you was able to go on a little bit of run, it felt like she wasn't getting touches in the paint and I think that's when we see South Carolina struggle and then in the second half she got her touches on the paint and like I said 22 points 15 rebounds. So she just dominated. Yeah, and she's been doing this for a few games now. You know, this one is the most high profile by far, but the other day she had against I think as North Carolina and T 29 points on 13 of 13 shooting, including a three in there, they weren't all just in the paint. Like you said, they're really starting to use her more. She scored single digits in her first two games this season 11 points in the third. From then on, she has just been a force in she's making me look dumb because in our podcast at the beginning of the year. And even after that first week when she was averaging like 9 points a game, I said, look, she's an awesome player. She's not gonna put up the type of numbers to be in all American and she wasn't through a week. We're going to have. The last week or two, she absolutely is. And if she plays like this, I'll definitely have to revise my pick and put her on that first team, all American, because she's putting up some monster stats. And she is really carrying a team that is so full of talent around her and yet still standing out as sort of the centerpiece of this number one team in the country. Yeah, for sure. I actually think that's kind of just like an interesting overall observation I have about South Carolina and Yukon so far as these are two teams that we talked about being one, two at the beginning of this season and so much of that was like, oh, they've added all of this depth from what they had last year. And I feel like that's not really what we're seeing so far from them. It's still kind of like their core returners that are leading the way by far most of their production is coming from who we would have thought that would come from last year. But it's just been like the dominance of olea Boston and then maybe a little bit less so so far about page packers that has really been carrying these two teams. Yeah, you know, to your point in that game, dorka yuhas and AZ fudd. The only newcomers to get on the court for UConn against South Carolina 29 combined minutes from newcomers and New York South Carolina. Number one recruiting class three of the top four. Those three freshmen obviously Raven Johnson's hurt, but those impression have barely played. They played their starters the vast majority of minutes as well in that game. Camilla cardoso played under 12 minutes in against they don't even need her, which is scary because she's a fantastic player. And they're beating really good teams without her having to contribute a whole lot. That's why I thought a Leah Boston might continue to put up those sort of low numbers that we saw at the beginning of the year because I didn't think they need her a lot, but really what it's looking like is they don't need the newcomers allowed. Those pieces are maybe there to help them in cases of file trouble and injuries and they have some crazy double over time game. It's going to help them. But they don't need them. Not so far at least. Yeah, agreed. I think we've kind of seen that on, especially from South Carolina, but even from Yukon, in these tight games, we're not seeing a ton of events I think they would have liked to see more of their bench against South Carolina that's certainly would have helped. But yeah, it's been I mean, it's not just like a lie of Boston and pig backers inside cook has played fantastic for South Carolina. I've been really impressed with her for these first 8 games or whatever the gamecocks have played and then Kristen Williams for you can't spend really solid. So there's multiple pieces that are playing really well, but we're seeing kind of that same return or group is really the focal point and while they have all this out of death, I don't think that's what we're really seeing making these teams stand out right now. Yes, I cook had 17 points in that game and maybe a little bit overshadowed by Leah Boston, but that's the Henderson, Boston cook, the three and double figures for South Carolina, Kristin Williams, page beckers, and vena Westbrook for three and double figures for UConn and I mean those are players that have been established on both these teams already.
A highlight from Hour 4: John Talty
"Program a two hours ago we had Brian Kelly on the new LSU coach, our first conversation with him after being introduced today. In Baton Rouge joining us now, John talti, the senior sports editor at AL dot com. John, we've talked throughout the fall about these two massive coaching searches, LA, with southern cow and LSU down in Baton Rouge. And I heard a million names for both jobs, but I'm not sure I heard Lincoln Riley at SE and Brian Kelly at LA. How did this happen? Well, Paul, if you remember, you and I talked on your show about Brian Kelly and LSU. And I think what I said, maybe I have a little regret about it. I think I said, you know, don't aggregate me on this, but I do remember. Brian Kelly fits with it. Looking for it. Now, maybe I wish people did aggregate me. But looking back on it, people had told me early on in the search of LSU that Brian Kelly would be the guy but that he fit the general model as to what Scott Woodward was looking for. He wanted a big name and there was the other kind of key thing there is that Scott word has a great relationship with agent trace Armstrong. And two of the names that I think were most associated with LSU at the end were Lincoln Riley and Brian Kelly to trace Armstrong clients. And so I think there's some of those things that happened to ultimately happen there as to why, you know, if you've got Brian Kelly, but still, I think shock a lot of people because I think even in the end, those last 24 48 hours when his name started to get more buzz, you know, I talked to some Notre-Dame people who thought that they'd been through this before in the past. I thought, you know, maybe he wanted a raise, maybe he wanted some facilities commitments to get some things that he wanted. I think we're a bit surprised that he ultimately decided to leave what is a very good situation in her name for OSU, but we knew from the get go Scott Woodward wanted a big name higher and he got it and Brian Kelly. Ultimately, if you had to draw on a canvas, how this search went with Scott Woodward, where do you think he started with Jimbo Fisher? That's certainly what I think most people in the industry thought. You know, he was the name that was initially linked to the job. And I think that there's a good relationship there between Scott and Jimbo. He, of course, hired him at Texas a and M and I think that at least some of my understanding, I think that he at least gauged Jimbo's interests. And I remember there were some buzz about Jimbo's name. It was kind of the rumor that wouldn't go away. And I think Jim mochis credit told people around him, he was staying and wasn't going to leave. And ultimately, of course, stayed at CNN. But I do think there were some realness to that. I think there are a few different names that got mentioned early on. I think mill tuckers another one. There was a big some truth behind. But certainly there was a group of names that he was very interested in at engaged where those people fell and ultimately killy was the one who fit kind of that duality of big name and also willing to say yes. Of the people that you were talking to inside college football. What is their assessment of how he is going to fit in down there and do? I think it's a fair question. And again, talking to some of the people on the note name side of things the other day, I think they immediately this is a weird fit. You know, how does that make sense and if it doesn't seem to be maybe the best fit for personality, but I do think that if you look at his track record of success, I think there's people that believe that he has a very high for in terms of what he's going to be able to do at LSU. I think that ultimately in the SEC, it always comes back to recruiting. You know, I think if you look at the two guys who are coaching the SEC championship game this weekend, they believe more than anything you have to have the talent, coaching comes second. And so I think that will be the number one question for Brian Kelly is. I know he's had some success recruiting down south, getting some occasional guys here and there and every day. But it'll be different going head to head against Saban and Kirby and Jimbo and these other guys every single day for the top recruits. And so I think for me the things that I'm watching in the coming days and weeks are, who does he put around him? Who does he have on his staff? I think he needs veteran SEC top notch recruiters who know how to navigate things down south and know how to get top recruits because that's the biggest thing. I think we know he can coach him up. We saw what he was able to do in our name in that regard. But we don't know how well he's going to be able to recruit in the SEC yet. And I think that's the thing that he needs to be able to prove moving forward and it starts hiring the right people. A thousand things I want to ask you, John, but what's the latest in Norman, where is their search? It's a good question. I feel like there was a lot of buzz early on about clubs and defensive coordinator Brent vandals.
A highlight from Hour 3: Ryan Shazier
"And we are back the second half of the program live and it's been a busy afternoon with Brian Kelly dropping by an hour ago. There's also some news from Texas. Remember, we went out there and talked to Heather at the top of the program. There was some optimism, not much. At the college football playoff with expanded, but the purveyor of dark and bad news, Bill Hancock says the issue is timing. Really? It will be a couple more years. And that is just amazing when you consider that we were on the one yard line on June 10th, and now we are back across the 50. College football. Let's continue with more phone calls here at 8 5 5 two four two 7 two 8 5 and Harry is up next in Alabama hello Harry. Hello, just take the call after the disaster in the past year last week, Alabama. A lot of interest in things going on. The album got rid of their offensive coordinator. Rumor at the conference is born in the Patrick may be becoming the head coach for university and having some young men to go with. I don't know. Oh, really? Not heard that. A new Troy had an opening. Role has an open objective state just get Rodriguez this week and Patrick's coaching high school ball done at central. Right. In Alabama, you know, so. Well, Patrick Patrick was a very good coach and I know they've been together before on the football field. So I don't know. I would think that would be maybe a fun final year for Beau. That's right. There's this old guys that are around drink coffee Jack. Well, that's usually where you get the best stuff. Now where is this coffee club, but meat every day? It Jack go in and get the senior coffee, you know, 59 cents, you know? Now what city is this in? Decatur Alabama. Okay. I'm compiling all these little coffee places to go visit in my elder year. So you know we solved the world's problems and none of our usually right, but I'm sorry to tell you, I got a voice with a newspaper and a face for the radio, but I just wanted to find that out. Well, Harry, we have that much in common. Thank you very much. Appreciate the call. David is in California. Hello, David. Hello, ball. Good afternoon. Hey, I really enjoy your show every day. You know, I heard someone earlier saying on your program that the reason LSU had won in the past or a national championship was because their assistants not to hit coach. But these guys are all good coaches. It depends on the talent of the players. You know, Alabama got the this year and people kept blaming the assistant. Well, it's not the assistance. It's the players, Alabama's not quite as good this year. As they have been in the past. And there's another thing, Paul, I don't think I'm sure you know because you'd most knowledgeable person I've ever seen in college football. But I haven't heard this brought up in your program. And it is that Notre-Dame in the past has had to have their athletes have had to have the same interest requirement as the regular student. Now, if she's not going to be that way, they're not going to be that way. You can get great athletes there. But you're getting a different kind of player. And Brian Kelly is going to have to deal with that. And I enjoy your show and thanks for answering my call. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. We go from California to Massachusetts. Hello, Joe go right ahead. Hi, Paul. Mister feinberg, a good afternoon. First time call it. Wonderful. I'd like to talk to you today about college football. You don't like I'm up here in Massachusetts, you know, western Massachusetts and let's be honest. We don't have college football up here in northeast. Syracuse, but in college football name only. You know, so normally in any other year, I would say that SEC by far by far best conference in college football and I would believe that teams with two or three losses in that conference could probably be any other team in the country. Okay? But I don't think that's the case this year. I'm really upset with my college football and the ratings. They give Bama and Ohio State and Notre-Dame tread by previous years. You know what I'm saying? Alabama won this past weekend at auburn and great for them. But they didn't really win. The other coach lost the game for his team. It wasn't because Alabama was superior. Yeah, they're superior. But the interior team should have won the game. And it was because their coach didn't tell us players to stop from going out of the bounds and then when he had third and one when he was the first town to end the game and have been with no timeouts and family in front. He tried to run the ball through the middle of the line. Good luck with that. So I guess I don't think the Obama should barely be those units with Florida with Arkansas and now auburn. And I just don't believe there's a third best team in the country. This year, there's just the team is not that good. Yeah, you look at it. What do you see? And they survived. I mean, they were a hiccup away from losing to Florida. They did lose to a and M, they struggled against Tennessee. LSU was a one plate away from possibly changing the outcome of the game at Arkansas. And until the very end, so they have flirted with disaster. If you look at their schedule and say, okay, what's their best game? Probably the Mississippi state and all this games is really when they shine the most old misses a top ten team, but other than that, the win over Miami was worthless. They're a terrible team. And we'll find out. Saturday is the ultimate test. And I've seen Nick Saban teams come through in this spot. And I've seen him lose a couple of times. Not often. But no, no, he's a great coach. You can't take it away. I've seen him wait with what I thought was his I've seen him lose with what I thought was his best team. This is certainly not his vintage team. If he pulls this out, then we can quit trying to figure out if anybody else should try to compete. Yeah, exactly. My concern is if Georgia is Georgia has a better team. So if they don't win the game, you don't want to call in chokers because they're kids. In some way, you can look at there's a thousand different ways there is a lot of pressure on Nick Saban. At this point in his career, you don't want to have embarrassing losses. On the other hand, there's enormous pressure on Kirby smart, even though he's likely to get into the way he is going to get into the playoffs. This game means a lot. And I think if he's hoping to win the national championship, I mean, this is the test that they need to survive. A lot of people, including myself, thought Clemson was the key game of the year. And I think, in many ways, it was. After that, we haven't really had a close call. We'll take a break. We have a lot to do and some very special guests coming up. More of your phone calls at 8 5 5 T four two 7 two 8 5. Brian Kelly earlier. We're coming right back. You are listening to
A highlight from Hour 2: Brian Kelly
"You walk on your back, the second hour is live and we can not wait to get started with this next guess he is the head football coach at LSU coach Brian Kelly joining us from Baton Rouge. I'm going to have to get used to saying that coach, I'm sure you are as well. Congratulations and thanks so much for making time. And my pleasure, Paul, thanks for having me on. It seems like a couple of days ago I was watching your game on Saturday night at Stanford and I can only imagine the miles you've covered and the conversations that you've had. How would you describe the last couple of days? Yeah, I don't even know world where possible as a definition. Look, you're getting your football team ready to play on the West Coast against Stanford, your focus is on trying to put them in the best position to get into the playoffs. You're on the West Coast recruiting and the next thing you know you're landing in South Bend at 5 30 a.m. with a 7 a.m. meeting to tell your team that you've resigned from Notre-Dame and the new head football coach at Louisiana state university. So it was just one of those things that just happened so quickly came together at the last minute and really excited to be here at LSU. Coach, I'm sure it's impossible to think about things like that as you're in the middle of a college football season, especially one that was going as well as it was. So how do you process all of that with your wife and family and in a compressed period of time? Paul, it's not easy. Obviously the opportunity to meet with Scott Woodward on the phone was very important. It was a Zoom call. It was about just under an hour. The alignment that I felt from LSU from the president down to the board, the resources, the ability to play for championships in the SEC playing against the best each and every week. And then getting a chance to talk to my wife and family and having their consensus that, hey, this is a great opportunity. Let's go for it. And when you have that kind of alignment on both sides and with your family excited about taking this step, it made it so much easier of a decision. Coach, I know you're not watching what all the pundits are saying, but I've been subjected to them being in that in that pool. And collectively, it's Brian Kelly felt like he could win a national championship at LSU. He wasn't in a conference up there. There is so much money at stake. And I throw those up to give you a chance to share with us the reason you took this job. Yeah. Well, first of all, I coach because I love developing 18th to 21 year olds. So I do that. That's my why, whether it's at Notre-Dame or Cincinnati or LSU. But this opportunity for me had nothing to do with Notre-Dame. I loved my time there. I loved everybody that we touched more importantly, the players. This was about the opportunity at LSU that we saw as a new challenge in our life. Look, I had never been to LSU or Louisiana. We're so excited to immerse ourselves in the culture of Louisiana. We love the outdoors. We've never been here. We can't wait to take it in. And to be part of it. And so I think just all of those things just made it so attractive and so exciting. And I feel like we've got a great process that we're going to be able to bring to Louisiana state university and they're going to be able to help us and I'm going to be able to help them graduate champions. We're chatting with coach Brian Kelly. Coach, I know, I don't know. I'll ask you. But there doesn't seem to be an easy way to separate from players that you recruited. I know what you said to your team the other day. But a lot of people are criticizing you for doing it so quickly for leaving a team that theoretically, not theoretically still in the playoff hunt. How do you answer those who have criticized you for that? It was my choice. I own that choice, Paul. There's no easy way to do this. The group of people that I got a chance to coach whether it was at central Michigan when I went to Cincinnati or from Cincinnati, when I went to Notre-Dame and now from Notre-Dame to Louisiana state university, it's never easy, it's very difficult. I loved all those boys and every one of those programs and I put my heart and soul into it. But there's never really an easy way to do it. The way to do it is to get in front of them. I was fortunate that I was able to get in front of this football team that I loved and did a chance to tell them what I was doing. And that's the only way. But I own the decision I own everything around it. But there's never really an easy way to do it. Someone called a minute ago before you came on and I shared this with you. And they said, I wonder if Brian Kelly realizes what he's getting into coming into the SEC and I laughed because I felt like after 12 years at Notre-Dame, you probably know pretty much at all. But it is a different set of circumstances playing in the SEC. I'm curious and I think we all are. What you think about that challenge? It's one of the reasons why I took the job, Paul. It's a great challenge. It's somewhat, look, 31 years of being a head football coach. The ability to go out and play the very best weekend and week out and be challenged that way. It's part of the reason why I'm here. So yeah, I recognize that. I know what the standard is. My eyes are wide open in here. This is not a giddy dream of, hey, this will be kind of a neat run here. If we go to SAU, SEC and do it. Listen, there's real good football coaches. Nick Saban resigns here in the SEC. There's great football and we're excited about that. What's next? I'm assuming it's putting a staff together, which may be complicated because of what's going on at Notre-Dame.
A highlight from Hour 1: Heather Dinich
"Hey everyone, welcome, very pleasure, welcome to the day. It is Wednesday. It's this hard to believe. It's only Wednesday after what has been going on since late Saturday in the early Sunday, but welcome. Let's get going and there is quite a bit to talk about. Yeah, the college football playoff reveal getting us ready for the weekend. Michigan is up to number two after its huge win at home over Ohio State and that's where we are with, of course, Georgia, Michigan, Alabama and Cincinnati, how much will it all change this weekend? That's what we're here to talk about. That was just one of the many stories making the rounds as some of you may have seen earlier today. Brian Kelly formerly introduced as the LSU head football coach quite a press conference down on the Bayou. This is so much about alignment. And for me, alignment relative to this university, the goals, what is in store for LSU, athletics, as a university, that is what the draw is for me. And certainly the opportunity to be here amongst the finest players, staff, coaches, being part of the SEC, an incredible challenge and opportunity in my life that I was excited to take on once I was able to meet Scott spent time with Scott. Hear his vision for the university and see how it connected so much with mine. Let me caution some of you people who may be snoozing on the couch. If you had one eye open and you saw Brian Kelly, say it's so great to be a part of the SEC. Let me remind you, Notre-Dame is not part of the SEC. Brian Kelly is now at LSU. I didn't want to give anybody a heart attack who was nodding off after a good lunch. Anyway, let's continue with some more. Anyway, Georgia. They must figure out a way to stop will Anderson. Well, good luck. Nobody has topped them all year. Maybe the dogs will be the first. And the tide is confident and Trey Sanders is Brian Robinson and others are dealing with injuries as they get ready to face the dogs on Saturday. Bam is an underdog. And you have to go back really other than the Georgia game in 2015 and the one this weekend that the O 9 game was the last time Alabama had been an underdog and we know what happened there. Ended the reign of Tim Tebow, Georgia was an underdog against LSU, won that game. I was against less miles. Nick Saban, his first SEC appearance, championship appearance, he was an underdog. Against Phil fulmer in Tennessee, Tennessee team had to win to go to the national championship. They did not. And do you remember who the coaches were in the 1999 SEC championship game? Steve spurrier on the Florida side. Mike dubose and the final jeopardy question is which Alabama coach beat Steve spurger twice in the same season? The answer is, who was Mike dubos? Yeah, it won't be easy though. Fewest points allowed in conference play last 25 years. The Miami team of O one, many consider that to be one of the greats of all time, LSU and Alabama. That was the same year. You wonder why they had a 9 to 6 game when they were both only giving up 8.4 a game. So of course, just a reminder, we will be there Friday. Our cast of thousands literally. Sharing with you all the excitement that that game usually brings. And this is certainly one of the biggest SEC championship games ever going with almost have to go back to those games. We mentioned a minute ago in O 8 O 9. Heather joining us from Texas is today going to be the day the CFP expands. Brian Kelly, yes, that is correct. He will join us at the 4 o'clock hour. Ryan shazier will join his former Pittsburgh player, Ohio State linebacker. Alyssa dreya and John talti on all the coaching craziness and what could be next. In your phone calls here at 8 5 5 two four two 7 two 8 5. Let's get going in a hurry here and David starts us all off. A hello David. Hey, Paul. Watch that press conference and I'm sure you did. What'd you think? Oh, I hadn't seen that much sell. And that long a press conference with that much emphasis on athletics since Joe ab Thomas introduced Bill curry. I remember that one. And they passed on Bobby Bobby. Yeah, you know, I can't remember who it was. I think it was Joe ab Thomas, who said the days were in Alabama will be known only as a football factory are over. Exactly. Until Webb was cleaning bumps and burners at the biology department there. After hiring, Bill curry, didn't look at that. Press go. I think all press conferences are too long. It doesn't matter how long they last. Well, they introduced Nick Saban now more did with about 6 words. He said, I'd like to introduce the next sure did. Next head football coach of the crimson tide next statement and that was it. And it worked out pretty well. Well, I'll never forget that day. Saban laid out his blueprint. And
A highlight from Chris Long on Brian Kelly and the Super Bowl Favorite. Plus, Matt Leinart on Lincoln Riley to USC.
"Get a quote today. You could have probably guessed this open, but I want to talk about Brian Kelly, leaving Notre-Dame and going to LSU. Let's do a quick run through who Brian Kelly has been as a head coach. Central Michigan first year four and 7 in three years gets him to 9 and four. It goes to Cincinnati, goes 34 and 6. At Notre-Dame, he was a 113 and 40. He's the first coach, by the way, which is always weird for well it's not always weird. It is weird because it doesn't happen. He's the first coach, apparently in over a hundred years to leave Notre-Dame on his own. And he passed newt rockney and wins. But grant, he didn't have the titles. But in a decade span, we're talking about three chances of the title. I feel like sometimes I'm soft, because I think of programs and go, okay, you know, I know it sucks, you didn't win. I know it sucks. You get killed by Alabama and the BCS title game. I know the playoff games didn't work out for you. But the fact that you're in the mix three times in a decade, that tells me that you have the right guy and that your program is a really good program. But Notre-Dame is going to deal with an extra level of hate for a million different reasons, which I totally understood. But if you just look at your program and say we've had three chances at this, that's pretty good. Now granted he had one bad year we went four and 8. Fine bomb wanted him fired. I think every week. Tough week for fine bomb on the guys he's wanted fired, by the way. He went foreign a and then after people said, Kelly should be fired. He went 54 and 9. So he leaves for LSU. And he leaves because of money. I don't know what the full contract deals are. Some of these leak things early on have been a little out of control. Like even the Lincoln Riley won about how they were going to buy both of his houses in Norman for all this extra money. That's been shot down a little bit. I don't know. It looks like these guys are close to 9 figure deals on this. The base is apparently ten years and 95 million. There's this number floating around, where Kelly's going to make 15 million a year. That didn't make any sense to me whatsoever. If that being the case would like real obtainable incentives, then that's just dumb. I mean, we've been on this money thing that I'll mention in a second here about how much is an increase recently, but I don't know that we're quite there yet. So it looks like ten years 95 million with incentives. If this team wins the SEC, if it wins a playoff game, if it wins a national championship, I mean, these are hard things to do. Where the incentives can maybe get this up to like 11 million a year or something like that. All right, so we know this that he can coach. If I'm an LSU fan, I feel like, okay, so you run through all that. If it doesn't work out, like, what did we do wrong? I guess you could sit there and say, not everybody is built for the SEC recruiting cycle. You'd love somebody who has ties to that part of the country, but with everything happening in the NIL deal and the whole gray area of what a recruiting violation even is anymore. It's a different world. A world that definitely scared off some big names in the past. Like, I know for a fact, there are certain coaches that are just like, I just don't want to go down there. I don't want to go down there and deal with all that stuff. Some people think urban Meyer, after a while I was like, this is ridiculous. Like I'm outta here. I'm going to go to a House state. So we understand all those things. I think I feel a little bit better too if the coordinators are coming to Marcus Freeman defensive quarter Tommy Reese, both guys who are terrific, but we still looks like Freeman. I don't know what version of this. They're both young guys if he stays in the game. I don't know what's going to happen with Tommy. But all of these boxes as far as we want somebody that is run a top program who can coach his coach everywhere he's ever been. We want that kind of guy. And that's what LSU has and Brian Kelly. But really, this isn't what the topic is about, is it? It's about the exit. We hate the exits. We hate when these guys leave. We hate the way business is done, usually in businesses that we do not work in. I don't know what people want it to be. Is Brian Kelly bad guy? I mean it's some stories to flying around that he wasn't always the greatest to work with. I don't know if that's something he's gotten over. I don't know if it was a vendetta deal. I mean, pictures of him with his middle finger out from a guy who was like, hey, I finally feel comfortable releasing this. I don't know. I mean, I saw him lose his mind and turn purple multiple times on the sideline. And there was a time where they were like, Brian kettle what's wrong with this guy? Like something has to change here. They're football coaches. They're not like the rest of us. I'm not excusing the behavior, but that's the world that they live in. And the more important thing to understand in the world that they live in, this is the way business is done. Can you imagine, if any coach ever said, like let me give you an example here. I like, for whatever reason I watched Tennessee a bunch this year, I like Tennessee's team this year. I know they weren't great. Nothing to get really excited about. I just like watching them. I thought hypo did a good job. One of like three weeks together got a hypo and be like, hey would you ever leave here? I was like, yeah, definitely. I mean, tennesse is a good gig, but it's not the best. And you know, if I can have a nice two year run, I'm out of here. Yeah. I need a better recruiting base. And there's maybe 5 to ten destination jobs for me and I'd love to land on one day. Which is what all of us want for ourselves and certainly what college football coaches want because these guys are really, really competitive. But we would tell anyone who ever did that. We would. You can't have it both ways. You can't be honest, actually. And when you look at the path of information the way it travels when these major transactions are happening, there's no way you can ever address the team or address the fan base before they find out about it on the ticker or for some leak news. Think about it this way. The agent's probably going to want the information to get out just so the market understands that their client who may have been thought is as unavailable is actually available. The people, let's say in this case for Brian Kelly, you know, I'm sure Kelly probably tells a couple people. I don't know how many administrators at LSU want the information to get out, but I can tell you who does want to get the information out. Boosters. Because the boosters get a heads up and be like, hey, you guys ready to kick in on this? If we go to buy a guy out, here's the deals here. You've got to be on the same page with the boosters that basically run a lot of these college football programs. And guess what the boosters like to do? They like to fucking tell people. They like to be at the country club and tell somebody, hey, you know what, we're getting Ryan Kelly. I don't know what voice I just did. I just did one. All right.
A highlight from Duke exposed by Ohio State; Purdue is the best team in college hoops; ACC already in trouble (College Basketball 12/01)
"Court storming in his final season at dude. I'm not trying to brag, but who predicted way back in the preseason. A court storming, what happened after Ohio State duke played in Columbus? Was it, I'll give you some options. Was it me? Or me? Or me? It was definitely you. I don't know. I haven't had time to go back and listen to it because I wanted to listen because I can't remember if I put on the table over under and the listeners will certainly know over under 3.5 court storms on duke and Kay this season or if it was 4.5. I believe you went under and I went over. I think that's what happened, but you did accurately predict Ohio State. I have no idea whether I did or not. But I'm not interested in that. What I'm interested in is you called it. You called it and coach case final non conference game of his career on the road will end in a loss. And by the way, that's gonna be part of his legacy, by the way. When people are talking about this 20 years later, they'll be like, listen, he wants the championships, and he won a lot of games, but it's worth pointing out he did fail in his final non league road game of his career. Not only that, what else is the media afraid to talk about this morning? It's the fact that Mike chasey is going to start and finish clearly a very good career without having coached a team to an undefeated season. That's over. It's over for him. Yeah, let's talk about all the things Mike she just has never done in his career. Hey, hey, hey, career record against Chris holtman? Owen won. Is it? That was the first game. I looked it up last night. All in one. Unless they meet in the NCAA tournament, and at this point, are we sure K is going to be able to get there? Unless they meet in the NCA tournament, Chris Holman, world retire. With an undefeated record against Mike Shia chesky, want to know all time. For everyone watching on the live YouTube stream, hello. Give us a few minutes to give Chris open some credit, okay? We got to start with duke. Don't worry, we'll get there with Ohio State. If you are watching on YouTube, hello and thank you. Reminder, if you don't follow us on Twitter and don't get the alerts, you need to go and nobody gets the alerts. They do, though. That's the thing is that it works. And the alerts work, they do work. And if you aren't on Twitter, which plenty of listeners are not, but you'd like to watch the live stream in real time. Be sure to go to the episode description on this podcast, nada, who some people think is not real. He will have a link in the podcast description so you can subscribe to the channel and get heads up. Our next podcast is scheduled to be live at 10 a.m. Friday morning that is east coast time. As for the game Parrish, it felt like both teams played like a B2B minus level. It felt like duke kind of went through the motions a little bit. I'm gonna have you talk about your guy Apollo Ben Caro because he didn't have the kind of game I expected him to and we'll give plenty of shine to EJ Liddell as well. But this felt like duke almost just, they let him hang around a little too long and they wanted to pay for it in the end. It was a bit surprised by the way duke allowed Ohio State to really close the gap and then overtake them in the final couple of minutes. Well, the wild thing is that they clearly let them hang around, but there was a point in the game where they weren't hanging around at all. They were done 13 at the half, 15 in the second half, and I saw this bouncing around on Twitter, Tuesday night. I'm gonna assume it's true. Entering Tuesday night, duke had won 185 games in a row with a double digit lead at halftime. It was the longest active streak in division one. They were up 13 that they have at Ohio State as up by as many as 15 in the second half. And they lose that game. So it wasn't just that they let Ohio State hang around. It's that they just blew a 15 point lead in the second half and couldn't score in the final four 29. Literally didn't score in the final four 29 of the game. Trevor kills makes a free throw four 29 left, dude goes up 66 59. And that's the last time duke scored in the game. What? Duke missed its last 6 shots. In Ohio State closed the game on a 12 O run over the final four 28 to win the game 71 66. Like everything about that is excessive. Like scoring 12 points in a span of four 28 is excessive for a college basketball team. Holding somebody to zero points over a span of four 28 is excessive for a college basketball team, and yet that's what happened on Tuesday night to allow Ohio State to get a signature win in a court storming and obviously cost duke the number one ranking in the country. If you can hold that box go on the screen for a couple more here on the YouTube stream, look at what everyone watching along in real time. Look at duke personal fouls. More with four, roach with four banker with four, Mark Williams of four, and then Theo John wants a wines are falling out. This is not exactly an analog to the Gonzaga game, but Gonzaga was dealing with this exact thing. It had a lot of its guys with four files, dealing with foul trouble down the stretch. That didn't help matters for duke on top of why it wasn't able to score sometimes coaches will tell you if you've got key guys in foul trouble late. It can impact your ability to run the kind of offense you want to run and guys just start playing differently. I certainly thought that was the case to an extent with duke overall. Ben Carroll, 14 points on four 14 shooting was not the same kind of world shifting player that we saw for some of the Gonzaga game before the cramps issue surface. Did you hear, by the way, I don't believe this. This can not be true. Did you hear billa say on the telecast that van Carol loses 7 pounds in a game? 7 pounds over two hours? That seems like it could put a normal human being in the hospital. There's no way that can be accurate. If you told me like two or three pounds, I can see it. 7 pounds in two hours? Well, I believe it was Holly rose reporting. And I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna be skeptical of Holly's reporting. What she said was that there had been some test run on Paolo, because he's cramped in the two biggest games of the year. So they ran some tests like what's going on here, this doesn't make sense. You're 19 years old, you're physically fit. Why are you cramping all the time? And what she said, what they said they found was that he loses roughly 7 pounds per game, which is the first time in 20 years I thought about playing basketball game. Okay. I'd be like, I'd love to lose 7, but I play that play, I'd play some back to backs. I'd love to lose 7 pounds playing a game. So he's now drinking a special oxygenated drink during games that prevents cramping. I drink vodka while I'm watching him and he drinks an oxygenated drink to avoid cramping. But even with that, he wasn't great last night. You know, he was four 14 from the field. 14 points 5 rebounds and by the way,
A highlight from Hour 3: All Eyes on Baton Rouge
"Lee with a news of the day and somehow are just getting off work. It was made official earlier this morning. If Ryan Kelly is the new coach at elish you. $95 million contract he is on the ground there. He has just landed at Baton Rouge airport and will be formally introduced to morrow afternoon. Let's get back to the calls. And Steve is in Kentucky, hello, Steve. Hey, boss, man. How you doing? We're doing great. Thank you. You're the boss man. I wanted to echo what that guy said in Ohio first, Tuesday, Civil War about CFP, you know, I'm going to tell you what your final poll is going to be before it even comes out. It's going to be the one, two, three, 5, one, two, three, 6, because ESPN CFP, that's why nobody can just add TiVo says they want the perimeters on. Because it's going to be the four biggest fan bases. Cincinnati is a small market team. New silhouetting played nobody. Look, Alabama got in. And they were 68 and strength of schedule. So if you're undefeated, you're undefeated. But I love your show. I watch it every day. And I don't want to give you a hard time because you need. But I will say this, everybody knows what the final CFP polls will be. I love it. You have good day bob. Thank you, Steve. Brenda is up next in Louisiana. Hello, Brenda. Hi, how are you? We are doing well. Thank you. Yes, I was just calling to say that I really like the Brian Kelly pick. I think he's going to be good for an issue. And I think he's going to bring maybe a little bit more stabilized team than we've had in the past and coaching. And one other thing is that do you think that since arch Manning has been committed that he'll be re looking at LSU now? I think it's possible. There's always been this feeling about the Manning family and LSU. It's amazing when you consider Archie Manning, grew up in Mississippi and went to old miss, but Peyton and Eli grew up in New Orleans and went to almost in Tennessee, but I think it all depends on who Brian Kelly's offensive coordinator is. And by the way, arch still has a little bit of time before he has to make up his mind. Thank you for the call. Appreciate it. Scott is in Indiana. Hello Scott. Good evening Paul, how are you doing? Quite well. Thank you. Just an early painting here, go to quite a few games quite a few years. Personally, myself, of course, I'm a little distraught by the situation. I understand that baran Kelly is up for the challenge and what's the heat sales and things you've done in the first and myself, though he's got the team for the next few years not saying that they would have made the playoffs at all or even got a new year's voltage gain, but the talent that he has come in the next few years with the recruiting class I believe was 5 the number three to 60 years how we would just give up on that. I get the money situation going to be wrong. I don't understand that whenever it ain't basically 5 million a year to almost what 9.5 million a year. Yeah, you're doubling your showering now. Now Scott what's all be honest here, 5 million 9 million at all saying it all sounds the same to most of us. But he's at an age where he's going, you know what? I can add X number of dollars to my rainy day fund and 12 years is a long time. To encounter Notre-Dame pressure. 12 years is it definitely a long time. With his mind, I'm sure, you know, when you brought these records and everything else, what could he do? Virtually, I'd like to see him get that national championship. I hope you guys have left. I just personally thank you to SEC with the challenges coming up with them recruiting against Alabama. All those other teams will take to the Oklahoma company and they're going to get straight. I wish an investor look, but I really just don't see within the next three to four years that he wins the national championship capability. Well, Scott, that's really the problem for him if there is a problem. Probably isn't really when you consider the money, but it's national championship or bus, going ten and two is not going to satisfy him because he was already doing that Notre-Dame and so he's gambling. I'm sure he had this conversation with his agent and his wife going if they're willing to offer me the money. I'm willing to step up to the plate. Shannon is calling next in Georgia. Hello, Shannon. You mean the best legend can come up with in his assessment of the game Saturday? Is it steam been its 5 11 and bright young is 6 foot tall and therefore Alabama is going to be Georgia. That's the vast the legend can come up with. It seems that way. Paul, I watched Arkansas give Alabama everything they wanted and more. I watched Alabama struggle to a four overtime two point win against a 6 and 5 album team. And the best that man he's supposed to be a legend on your show can come up with is steps have been at short and he can't beat out of them. I don't know what's going to happen on Saturday Paul, but is it going to be because that's a minute? I promise you that. No, I don't think so. And by the way, Bryce young is not exactly 7 feet tall, either. He's listening 24 7 is 5 11, he's listening to Alabama's roster 6 foot. Paul, these legacy callers that call your show from back in the old days. Well, I don't know, they're bringing that much to the table. It's a lot of a character assassination. Who's an idiot who's smarter than brother? I want to hear football talk. You know, the Paul found bomb show focuses on southeastern conference athletics, football in particular, correct. You've described it well, Shannon. And did legend play Alabama? Did he let her in Alabama? No, he did not. What's all this waste stuff? Does he speak France? Is that a required course in Alabama that we speak French? Is that where the we comes from? He's up in the ring and he's up in the ring. About what's going to happen on Saturday. To me legend is walking a very dangerous type wrote right now and if Alabama wins and we all know what he will say Monday, but if they don't. He'll probably be firing the coaches again. Here's what it comes down to on Saturday night. And I'm not an expert. But it's going to come down to Georgia's ability to stop big play. He is right in the fact that Matthew and the other receiver are deep trans at any moment. And it's going to come down as your visibility to stop the big play. Other than that, I'm not sure there's going to be much else to offer from it. But I just can't believe it's a guy that's the legend on the show. Can you come up with nothing better than set some minutes too short? Thank you, yeah. I don't know why I'm laughing, but I am. I'm sorry. Pete. Is up next. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. Thanks for taking my call and I hope you had a good thank you. Thank you. It was great. Great.
A highlight from Hour 4: Fin in South Bend
"Passion and pageantry of college football lives here. This is the qualifying bomb show podcast. Let's get to more calls here. And red dogs is up next. So let me get this right, Paul. George of fans were delusional, but we got one out of our fans sitting on the fork for the Zach's brother in law. We got one hour by my fan with a dog barking in the background. Did you not have any sense to all outside? Let me tell you this Alabama. You can't bring the team from 2019. You can't bring the team from 2018. You can't dig up Bear Bryant from the dead on Saturday. We're talking about 2021. We gave up 83 points. You gave up 88 points to the four same opponents we played. So start talking about delusional stop living in the past come Monday is going to be a funeral for the Bama fans. Are going to be crying. You sound like a bad version of dusty roads, and we're going to whip you legend. You come to Atlanta and see red doll. How about them, dogs? Dusty roads, bringing up some great memories from Monday night wrestling. Let's continue. Marvin is up next in Houston, a hello Marvin. Hey, Paul, how's it going, man? We are doing great. Thank you for calling. I just got to want to buy something. I'm an LSU fan, die hard, me and my wife and my family and we heard about Kelly is coming. But I was killing them. How do you think about Kelly's recruiting in the south for me and being up north? Because you don't LSU. They've got a lot of black brothers on the football team, you know. And I heard Kelly, he's got his he got his own way of doing things and he's kind of stubborn, so what do you think about him and his recruitment coming in? Well, Brian Kelly grew up in Boston. He's coached most of his life in the Midwest at central Michigan Cincinnati and now Notre-Dame. He's recruited the south. Obviously, that is not his main recruiting ground, but let me ask you a question. Who's the best? Who's the best coach in LSU history? Culture. Oh. He's better than me. I say Coachella, his job. Okay, well, let me ask you another question. What do you think of Nick Saban at LSU? Do you think he did a good job? That was the best. Okay, I'm sorry. You're my question to you is this. How did Nick Sabin recruit when he went to LSU? People crudely great. He has a guy who's a guy that grew up in West Virginia that spent most of his career in Cleveland and Toledo and east Lansing Michigan and he won a national championship and he left less miles who won another national championship. I think with a lot of Italian, by the way, less miles wasn't a bad recruiter, either. He's from Michigan. I think I think our next statement brought in Marcus piers. Booger mcfall and all those guys, and you think so? Well, Marvin, he didn't bring in booger, but the point being. If you're at LSU and you're a good coach, you don't have to be great. You just have to be a good coach. You can recruit Louisiana. I mean, you have to really work hard to screw up Louisiana. And by the way, less miles did. But I think Brian Kelly can recruit down there, especially if he gets the right stuff in order. And that's what he's doing right at the moment. Let's check in. With Walt, who was up next, hey, Walt, good afternoon. Hey, Paul, and honor. Thank you. Thank you very much. I'm not really an Alabama fan, but I think I got something to think and hang their hat on and that is just this. Alabama has been so well tested this year. The SEC west has just been brutal. I mean, every one of those teams has been bringing their a game, LSU, almost a and M, auburn. Hey, Walter. They've been bringing their a game for his Alabama bringing its B minus game. It might be a little bit. Alabama's been playing against some elite quarterbacks. Matt corral, all those other quarterbacks that they've been facing. Great receivers. I mean, they've been really, really tested. On the other hand, Georgia may be not quite so much. We kind of thought that they would be tested certainly by Clemson in Florida, but both of those two teams were well off the mark. They were somewhat tested by Kentucky, but other than that, they haven't been paying against the same competition that Alabama has. So I think that's a solution. I would agree. Georgia scheduled did not include Texas a and M as Alabama did. They didn't play some of the other teams at Alabama did. But they also played Tennessee, which gave Alabama tough time. Georgia beat Arkansas 37 to nothing, Alabama beat them by 7. So it works both ways. And the Georgia beat auburn, but I think 24 or 28 and Alabama beats them by two. So I understand your argument, Alabama has been tested in a lot of tight games. Alabama had to come not come from a high, but Alabama had to hold off Florida, Georgia destroyed Florida. I'm not trying to argue with him. I'm just trying to state a few facts. K dub is up next. Good afternoon, K dub. My brother bees, if I'm a different mother, man, my father from another mother. So let's go ahead and get his choice. We shouldn't even show up in Atlanta. Let's just go ahead and get a chance to show up. I mean, I pay good money to go to this game. I have to stay in there, man. I understand. I kind of want to ask a few of those questions. You always ask it about how is Alabama going to neutralize the defense and it's playing itself in my people that might not want to hear this is agree with it. This is going to have to start with that offensive coordinator. He's going to have to come up with more creative plays. KW, you got a new one for this game? You guys, yesterday, baby, you got jokes. I like drugs to do. But I'm saying, this is the time to make that money right now. That's why I say he's going to have to come up with. I said you ain't saying he was going to have to continue. Well, I'll tell you one thing. I don't hand out the paychecks at Alabama.
A highlight from Hour 2: SOUTH Bend
"It's the second hour of the program and certainly a lot to digest as we are waiting for Brian Kelly to arrive. In that room, we will have that for you when he does. And right now let's talk about fortune from the athletic who has been covering all these stories for us. But math, thanks for the time. Great to have you on. Let's start with Brian Kelly. We've reacted to it for an hour. We're curious what you think and why you think it happened. Hey, Paul, thanks for having me. Yeah, I mean, I like to think of myself as not a naive guy when it comes with those business, but to say I'm shocked would be an understatement. And that's a sentiment that's not what I think throughout south end throughout the Nordic pancakes. I mean, not a lot of people saw this coming until reports from my colleague Bruce elman initially yesterday early afternoon said that LLC was seriously courting Brian Kelly. But even then the sense I got from folks around every game was sorry, this is a leverage play, whatever. It will come back, right? And obviously, you didn't. He is, if he's not touched down about a rouge already, he is almost there as we speak and it's just a pretty shocking development. I mean, look, Brian Kelly name gets thrown around for big jobs year after year. That's what happens when you've had the success that he's had in everyday and that's what's happened when you've had the career climb, but he's had throughout this business. It reached the point where 8 days ago at a press conference CO categorically denied that he was in talks with USC and even went so far as to say he doesn't envision himself coaching anywhere other than Notre-Dame ever again. Obviously, things have changed since then. He ended up in LC and I got to be honest, I mean from a culture fit. I know, I think he'll win there. He's a great coach. I know you can win big at LC as so many coaches before him have. It's still pretty shocking. I always thought if he was going to leave rivalry notwithstanding USC what was the one where I think I hold myself and I think everyone who knows Brian Kelly and knows that program well would say you could picture him on the LA sideline. A lot easier than you could have had a root. And obviously something has changed in the last week or so and LSU has got their gut. And at some point, everybody will spin the story to their own advantage. I mean, they're even been stories making the rounds of Brian Kelly was inquiring about other jobs. And that's always difficult to really get an accurate read on. But in the past, has he ever come close to either a college job or an NFL job? Well, the 2012 days after losing to Alabama or I guess January 2013, days after losing to Alabama in the national capacity game, he met with Philadelphia. And that was that it's not the one yard line pretty darn close. I mean, the entire dirty fan base and program was waiting with beta breath to figure out what he was going to decide to do and he ultimately decided to come back and I think it took a lot of goodwill early on. I mean, to the point where here we are, almost 9 years later. And he still has to answer or still has had in the past cancer questions about his passion for Notre-Dame and whether he wants to be somewhere else and so forth. And I got to be honest, I thought he was not genuine, not I didn't think he was lying when he said he wanted to be there. He had worked really hard for a very long time to get that program to a place where it is right now where they're having the winningest 5 year stretch in program history. They have won ten or more games 5 years in a row. They've made two of the last three costs of all playoffs. And they might make this year's with a few things break right for them in the other games on Saturday, which is a whole other layer to this conversation that I'm still trying to wrap my head around because it's just crazy to me that this team is one of 6 teams that theoretically could win a national championship this year and their head coach or something like them. I'm curious mat about what he thought of his ability to win a title in order to he had the two games with Georgia that were split up by a year, I believe a home and home. I think he's played all his ball game. He's taken on Alabama a couple of times. Do you think he just looked at what he had and I know the roster is getting better and determined. I just can't win a title at Notre-Dame. So yeah, if I miss a playoff appearance, so what? I want the big prize. It was very funny to be Paul in the introduction video on LC's website when they made this announcement official today. There is a quote from Brian Kelly and there, it's a expectation for me was to be a legitimate competitor for championships. And I think that was by design, right? I mean, despite noting, going to the hospital playoff, two of the last three years and maybe three of the last four years, there was a sizable gap there. You can't, Brian Kelly is a really good coach. He's a really good CEO. He has made a great career for himself and his programs. In many respects by developing talent, housekeeping is opposition and hiring good coaches. And all those are prerequisites for being a great tough approach. But as you know, especially down SEC country, once you get through that level, once you're in the playoff and you're swinging with Georgia, Alabama, Clemson, when they have Trevor Lawrence or deshaun Watson, there's no playbook that can be talented. And Notre-Dame, whether it's their inability or their naivety, they think if you ask ten different people to get tender for an explanation there about why they haven't recruited to the level
A highlight from Brian Kelly leaves Notre Dame for LSU and Lincoln Riley's introductory press conference at USC
"The audible presented by Trader Joe's. I'm Stuart mandel joined as always by Bruce Feldman. You guys get an extra episode this week because this sport. College football will not stop. It has been a 24 to 48 hours unlike any I think you and we've been covering the sport a long time. I don't remember anything quite like this to go from one, stop the presses bombshell of Lincoln Riley to USC to I would say, and even bigger bombshell the next night, Brian Kelly, leaving Notre-Dame for LSU with Lincoln Riley well, we got a little bit of a warning for one thing, but also he was literally just answering a question of the night before about another job we thought he might be up for. So I can't say that was completely shocking. This one left me speechless when the linears came out. I actually am less surprised by this one than I was Lincoln Riley. And I think the reason why I say that is because I didn't think USC would be able to pull it off and quite honestly. If I got Lincoln Riley was going anywhere, I thought it would be to the NFL, whereas Brian Kelly, I've heard little rumblings like even Brian Kelly could have been a candidate at USC. The part that I get where you're coming from is and I don't remember exactly how it was worded, but Brian Kelly did this like fairy godmother rant or whatever. It was in the wake of Mike Tomlin's definitive, you know, not only am I not going F U for even asking me, you know, like that kind of thing, whereas Brian Kelly went down that road, not quite as probably forceful as Jimbo Fisher did. But pretty much so. And last week, by the way, not like three months ago. Right. I think the part that has made this more wild is this aspect of it. And look, all of this, I feel like I'm feel like this has been like a 72 hour day for me, but the thing that jumped out to me here is that from talking to people who are close to Brian Kelly and that means people who are on his staff. They have had conversations where they're where he had said, basically, I don't care what they're going to pay me. I don't want I'm not going there. And that's the issue specifically? I believe so. I believe so. And to that degree. And he doesn't want to leave here. And this seemed like it was more of a leverage play, not a leverage play, but something about leverage because, you know, he'd been really pushing and begging for certain things to have a chef for the football team, which most schools have to have a formal training table. To have a new football facility being built, those kinds of things and where I had heard like everything seemed to be a battle. And a lot of these things were done for the players, and yet here it comes now. Notre-Dame is maybe one, if not two losses this weekend, whether it be Michigan or Alabama, losing again or possibly Oklahoma state of Notre-Dame being in the playoff. And so this guy who was pushing for seemingly benefits to benefit his team is bailing on his team when they could be a playoff team and the all we hear about from coaches is about culture and committed to them and all of these other things. And he is leaving this team behind. And so, you know, you have coaches who felt like they were assistants who felt like their time trying to talk recruits off a ledge and then you know as I reported earlier, Monday night, you know, I just learned that Brian Kelly was actually did a home visit today and when he came out as basically the news had gotten had been getting out that he was expected to leave to go to LSU. I mean, it's a bad, bad look for him, and I think that aspect of the wild nature of this, I think probably makes this even more surreal probably than just Lincoln. Light USC landing Lincoln. Yeah, look, every time a coach leaves a big name program, it's always awkward. There's no good way to do it. The fan base, that's left. I mean, you know, we'll get to Lincoln Riley here in a little bit, but Oklahoma fans who were rooting for this guy, two nights ago he is now completely dead to them. But Brian Kelly seems to do it in a particularly brazen way when he left Cincinnati for Notre-Dame. And by the way, that wasn't an out of nowhere thing. That was he was the obvious guy. Been out there for a week. Finally got through the last game. Cincinnati wasn't going to a playoff, but they were an undefeated team going to a BCS bowl, which was a really big deal for that program at the time. It was a sugar bowl. Tim Tebow. And he left. And kind of like this, I felt like that that felt unprecedented. You know, a coach leaving his team before the, you know, whatever low level ball down there. Okay, that's okay, but like before a BCS game. And now we're talking possibly.
A highlight from Hour 4: Jason Kersey
"A breakneck breakneck busy afternoon. Let's continue with more of your phone calls before we head out west and I don't know about you. I'm ready for a good laugh. Joe from red bay, Alabama. Road Tyrone Paul. Congratulations on that. Come from behind victory over auburn. All right, you know what? I don't reckon what would just out there just give it high 5s for two minutes before we decided to show up and play football. I mean, I was not, I had to camper that first 52 minutes of the game. But you know what? If you're going to vape the boners rip their heart out while doing it, because you know what they did this to us and that takes 6 back a few years ago. They had different. No. No, they didn't. They didn't have no sympathy. And, you know, in all reality, I mean, it was a coin. I mean, anybody could have won this game. I mean, because you got to get both thing, you know, as bad as I hate over, you still gotta give them credit at the cows. You know what, for the season they've had. But I mean, you can't look at his game. What about what about this weekend in Atlanta? I'll see you in Georgia maybe like 30 to 15. 30 to 15, okay? Joe, if I could if I could indulge a moment of your time to maybe give us one or two reasons why you think Alabama will win 30 to 15. And this goes to the iron bowl game too. I think we were playing around the California Georgia place Albert blade county defense Georgia does. And same a nim did and Florida by bullets ever play. And I don't know why we didn't start throwing some black screen passes out against the borders to kind of open that defense up. And maybe we were just kind of joking. What about this weekend? Give me a reason why Alabama wins. Because we're going to be the best offense to Georgia sliced all year. And the best defense they faced over here. The best defense they faced all year. Have they played this kind of defense? I was pretty impressed with Clemson's defense. Well, I mean, yeah, yeah. They were healthy, then. I mean, you know, you're talking about And George has had a cakewalk, but when they say he's Alabama, it's gonna play in George. I'm in Georgia. Hold on one second. I'm just gonna read you these numbers, okay? Three, 7, 13, zero, zero, ten, 13, 7, 6, 17, 7, and zero. Do you know what I just read you? I'm guessing that's the coordination. No, those are the numbers. The amount of points that Georgia has given up game by game in the 12 game season that they just completed. Thank you very much for the call. Appreciate it. Let's check in with Cody, who is up next in Georgia. Hello Cody. Hey, Paul, how's it going? It's going great. Thank you. Is it okay if I could share a little, and so on myself? Sure. Okay. I just wanted to let you know that I am a ten year old quarterbacks for the razor coordinates in Georgia. My team just went to 11 and won the first great Super Bowl. That is fantastic, Cody. Your family must be very proud of you. Yeah, they are. Well, tell me what happens next. I mean, where do you go? What's the next level? Well, I actually wanted to tell you about my question. Okay, we'll go right ahead. All right, my question is, should Georgia fans be concerned that the referees may help Alabama to the SEC gets two teams in the playoff? Cody, I don't think so. And I know people always think I'm crazy when I answer like this, but I think the reference these are the best referees to the SEC has. And they want to stay the best referees by advancing to the next round, whatever bowl game that is or whatever ranking that they get. So I don't see anyone on this crew and I don't know who the crew is. That is going to be thinking be thinking anything other than let's call this exactly the way we see it. All right. Well, thank you very much Paul, and I enjoyed it. Well, congratulations again, Cody. That was a fantastic accomplishment that you had. Let's talk to Albert is up next. Hey, Albert. Hey, Paul, how are you going? We're doing great. Thank you. Yeah, we have a problem on the planes and now. You know, old fans are upset over the last three weeks about the demise of the oven tigers and the second half. And that's clearly comes from one thing and that's the offensive coordinator, Mike Bobo, who needs to pack his bags in a hurry and leave all room Alabama. He has not won anywhere significantly that he's coached. They've random out of Georgia. They ran him out of Colorado. As for some strange reason, we went over to South Carolina and picked them up and we need to ship him back. If you look at the last three games that we all upset about, all the way back from after Texas a and M, Mike Bobo has made own head calls on plays that elementary kids could simply call, you know, he's throwing the ball when we should be running the ball when you have somebody like take big speed in the backfield and he's drawn the ball Saturday. We have the game one. What happens? Mike Bobo on the 20 yard line. Decides to tell a one legged quarterback to try to pass and he gets sacked and take us out of the field goal ring. Brian Harrison has to understand one thing. Arvin is not going to stand for losing. Now, we're going to give him a pass this year, but if he doesn't fire Mike Bobo, he looked out next year already looking for another hit coach. Albert, thank you very, very much. I appreciate your contribution. There Greg is up next in Tennessee, a hello Greg. Hey, Paul, how you doing, buddy? We're doing well. Thank you. Hi, thank you for taking my call. I've watched you a lot, but this is the first time I've gotten in. Well, I'm really glad.
A highlight from College Football Championship Week Picks and Predictions: Georgia vs Alabama, Iowa vs Michigan
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A highlight from Hour 3: Greg McElroy
"This second half of the show is live and it's going to be a pretty dramatic red McIlroy's running us shortly. We'll head to Oklahoma a little bit later on and find out how soon our nation is reacting to its favorite son leaving them behind. Let's grab augie. Who is the new LSU head coach? We just wanted to make that announcement right now. Hey, and I come cheap too. And the other thing I won't bring any scandals with me. But Paul, have you ever heard from Matt and San Antonio today, have you? I have not. No. That's been quiet. Poor little mad. I mean, he's had a rough year because he was predicting win against Bama. He doesn't like the LSU fan base and look what happens. What would happen to Jimbo? By the way, did you hear the story Jimbo after the game told Scott Woodward? I'm good if you want me and he said, that's okay, Scott. That's okay, Jimbo. We'll catch you later, man. He even said he takes 6 million a year. So I think they're ready to I think a and M's ready to pay 6 million to get rid of Jimbo, but Paul, as far as Notre-Dame getting into the college playoffs, if that happens, we're going to have to call archbishop Moreno and get him to petition the Pope to not let that happen. You know what happens every time Notre-Dame gets in, they get whacked the first game and it's not even close. So but Paul, Alabama is having trouble with LSU's second string quarterback in their third string quarterback. So finally was her third string quarterback. You're right. I forgot that. I saw I had a chance to talk to Finley Friday. He came by the show and said, he loved it. My first solo, why didn't you play basketball? I was like, I never met him before. I think he's listed at 6 7, but I've interviewed Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. I think he's taller than him. He's huge. I mean, the kid is huge. He could be he could be alignment, but I thought finally played pretty well all things considered. He was on one leg the entire game. It was pretty amazing. So I thought it was going to be a blowout, and it turned out that Bama couldn't beat him in 60 minutes. So, you know, good for good for sending. He deserved to shut, but Paul, do you think Woodward has blown it already? I do not. Do you think? And by the way, I may be the only one who thinks that right now, but I absolutely. You're absolutely the only one that thinks I am going down going down with SS Scott Woodward. You have hitched your wagon to the Woodward train. But do you not feel right now that he is basically settling? Well, I don't know. Listen, it's a lot easier to make that analysis after you see who he introduces, assuming that ever happens. But I just don't know what his game plan has been. I think Lincoln Riley clearly figured into it. Jimbo was obviously somebody that was either stringing him along or leading him to believe. So now he's down to, do I wait till after Saturday and grab somebody that's in a game? Could it be Dave Miranda? Could it be stoops? Could it be somebody else? I don't know. Well, pat Dooley. He's got to be a joker to suggest Bill O'Brien, a guy that has barely a winning record in that people in Alabama want to crucify and want to get rid of. I mean, it would have to be. I know, I will tell you that. If it ends up being Bill O'Brien, then can we revisit this conversation? Well, it can't be Bill O'Brien. I mean, Woodward, I mean, I give him a lot of credit for being a genius yet. He didn't make two good hires and I do like the baseball guy. I really do. But I think he's kind of blown in on his hire, because I think he's settling and I'm afraid the guy he brings in is going to realize, oh, I was like, second choice to the prom. But at this point, I don't see that we have any other option than to offer kissing. And I thought he was one of the first guys that would have gone with in the beginning. Of course, I'd like to you freeze, but he's blacklisted. But I think kiffin is the guy. What do you think? I don't know. I certainly kiffin is a you don't lose when you're introduced lane kiffin at a news conference. But if it is lane kiffin, my question back to you is simply this. Why is it taking so long? He hasn't anything. He hasn't had a game since last Thursday. Well, that's why I believe what we're doing a terrible job. I think he should have gone with kiffin and kiffin was on his list but way down. And I'm worried that kiffin's going to say, oh, now you call me after three other guys turns you down, didn't accept. I'm not so sure I want to go to LSU. And then where are we left with? I don't know about Aranda. I want to take kissing before a random. But I wouldn't cry for Randall was the coach. But Bill O'Brien come on. I can't believe that's even an option. And Marc stoops, I'm not sold on stoops. I'm not sold on him. But anyway, Paul, you've got to run a lot riding on this. I'm going to double down on Scott Woodward. I've always admired him. And, you know, I've been broke before, augie, so if I'm broke by the end of the week, I hope you'll find a few coins for me. I will. And you're going down fast because hard bar is on the rise. And I think he's going to start becoming smug and arrogant again. If he wins a national championship, that's it, Paul, you're dead. Take care. I may be anyway. Thank you for the call. James is up next. Good afternoon, James. All right, Paul, how are you? We're doing great. Thank you. Tommy's story about doctor Mark stokes, if he takes Lee and column within with the talent that Oklahoma can get. And you're talking about sky's the limit there. Even though LSU, I mean, today, what he's done in Kentucky was three star recruits. We were very close this year. A very good thing. I think he's obviously a storage for Oklahoma. But I think he is. He may be. Hey, thank you very much for the call. Let's continue with more phone calls and Charles is in Dothan, Alabama, hello, Charles. Hello, Paul, thanks for taking my call. Thank you. Football is important to a lot of people. This is important to me, probably too important. In this day and age in which we live where we got this plandemic and convoluted home into White House and supply chain issues, things are scary. Here are a couple of years ago we found out that toilet tissue can be in short supply. And I think throwing it into trees is just a senseless way of resources. I mean, they have cut trees down to make toilet paper. So those people out there remember and only does that for home games and by my count, they only did it four or 5 times this year. So they say.
A highlight from Hour 1: Pat Dooley
"The pride passion and pageantry of college football lives here. This is the qualifying bomb show hour two podcast. They have very pleasant, good afternoon, and what a weekend it was. We have not seen too many like that this year or ever for that matter. Welcome to a new week. The end of the month is upon us and we have a lot to tackle over these next four years. Lincoln, Riley, making a calculated move, turning his back on ou for USC. Many wonder why. Why did he leave Oklahoma? Why now? Why is the sooners are heading toward the SEC, had a pretty fabulous record there, but remember he inherited he inherited a masterpiece left behind by bob stoops. He had three playoff appearances, one really good game against Georgia, the other two absolute obliterations by LSU and Alabama, producer couple husbands, but he's heading for tinseltown. Speaking of coaching changes, Billy Napier has been patient and he finally landed the big job. He is the new coach. At the university of Florida, 39 and 12 in four years with the raging cajuns. All the FBS coach to lead his team to conference championship game each of the past four years. He was once an assistant under davo, most recently, a Nick Saban disciple. So we've got a few new openings since we saw you last to the surprise of no one cut cliff is gone from duke. Hawk if you want the LSU job, oh you is open, Virginia tech is open and Washington is open. So again, we are going to dig pretty deep. So I'll save the breath and we can hear from you in a minute at 8 5 5 two four two 7 two 8 5. But we have got a lot to dig into here and certainly there were miracles all over the place. Nick Saban, he'll treasure a win and Jordan hare stadium and in some ways it was the exorcism of the kick 6. Others may disagree, but Alabama still alive in the national championship race and in 2013 they weren't a and M a lot of people were wondering Jimbo would land the LSU job. He didn't even be there to run in their final meeting. Coach cojo. How could you not cheer for Coachella, getting to say go tigers one more time as a winner? It was quite an emotional scene at the end of the game a Tiger stadium and quite frankly a pretty brutal loss for Jimbo Fisher. There was one other game, yeah. The game up north. The game as they like to call it. Am I reading that correctly? Did Michigan really win? I must have missed that game. Congratulations. Padilla. Congratulations to me for saying Padilla's name right. John welner from the mercury news. Greg mcelroy. Spencer and Richard and Jason kersey. He used to cover Oklahoma. Now he's covering a train wreck until they can get this thing straightened out. So who will be the next coach at Oklahoma will ask kersey that in just a couple of hours? Let's get to your phone calls at 8 5 5 two four two 7 two 8 5. I'm not even a caller to the show. The late Saturday afternoon early evening, I was saying, I can't wait to listen to the fine bomb show on Monday. So I'm going to do the same thing that a lot of us are going to do and listen to the show and see what people have to say. Kelly starts us off from Long Island to hello Kelly. Hi, Paul, how was your Thanksgiving for? It was wonderful. Thank you for asking. Thank you. And so yeah, let's start out with Lincoln Riley off the bat and what do you think is he making a mistake or not or and also a shout out to Lee elder rest in peace? For a great golf pro. And I'll listen while you. Thank you, Kelly. I don't think he's making a mistake. I think he had a great run at Oklahoma. And everybody approaches things differently. He may have felt it was time to try something else. You could sense the tension during the year during the Spencer Rattler debate, the Caleb Williams, remember the young student reporter, getting some secret pictures, Lincoln has been on edge and then losing two games down the stretch, had to be very difficult. But ultimately you have to ask yourself, what's the better job? I know a lot of people want to come up with the typical SEC narrative that he was afraid of the SEC. I'm not really in that camp. I think he saw the bright lights of tinseltown and a place where expectations quite frankly are less suffocating right now because of the dearth of success than he had in Norman. Andre is up next in Atlanta. Hello Andre. Bob, how you doing? Very well. Thank you. Listen. I was telling the people of the great state of Oklahoma, if you want loyalty, go get a dog. As you see, these coaches are not loyal. Here they expect the players to be lower. Come on now. Let's get into the 21st century. Now I wish the man nothing but the best, but hey, you know what I know coach the past 12 is definitely. Now, if you were moving it to a neighborhood full of bullish college SDC and you had an easy way out, they were gonna pay you great money with where would you go cofound bob? Yeah, I don't think it's a difficult decision at all. And there's one other aspect of this. And that's staying in the big 12 for another couple of years where you're going to get the worst possible calls as his team did on Saturday night. Everybody hates your guts. They're envious. I think he made a smart decision. Well, one more question. Man, what is God world waiting on over in bedroom? What's going on with that? Well, that is a good question. And you have to think he's either missed on a couple of people that he obviously wanted and I think Lincoln Riley was in that camp. He's waiting for somebody to maybe change their mind. Or he's waiting on a coach who is on a championship game this weekend. I don't think there can be anything else. Why don't you call the man up and she was going on? We want to know. Well, I will say this about Scott Woodward and I may eat my words, but that's okay, I'm hungry. So right. He's a smart guy. You know, I think he's catching a lot of flack. I'm more than willing to wait and see what Scott Woodward shows up with on whatever day it is, than to say he has blown this coaching search. I'm not convinced he has yet. Yet, we'll take a break. We will head to Florida where they're really excited about Billy and Napier. Sadly, for building apron in Florida, that hire yesterday came out about the same time as the Lincoln Riley news and this is the first time I've thought about it since then, but will that mister dilly and lightness. You are listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast? So lost in the shuffle is Florida,
A highlight from Happy for Harbaugh, Lincoln Riley to USC, and Trent Dilfer on Whether the Pats Can Win the Super Bowl
"I have a lot of college football that I want to get to as I was kind of going over stuff from the weekend and writing out notes this morning. I go, you know, this could turn into one of the old dual threats where I would just go 40 something minutes of my own. And so we're not going to do that, but I may break it up into two open segments because we have Michigan beating Ohio State. We have projecting the rankings to get me riffing on a bunch of other different things. And then you have Lincoln Riley going to USC after there was a couple of people trying to say he was going to LSU. But, you know, we had Bruce Feldman on, and he was pretty clear about that, where Bruce is really plugged in, especially when it comes to the coach stuff, where he's like, yeah, if Lincoln goes somewhere, I don't think it's going to be LSU. So maybe we'll find out more about what that story is. Now, unless you still need a coach, Florida got their guy in Billy Napier, but let's focus on really what the headline was is Michigan finally beating Ohio State. It finally happened for Jim Harbaugh. 42 27, if you look at the yardage on this one, it's actually close, 47 to four 58, and a side, I came away really impressed with CJ Stroud quarterback for a House state. He was he was fantastic in the face of all day chaos, Aidan Hutchinson defensive end and now people are talking about him potentially being number one overall pick if it's not game on thibodeaux. Don't know if Hutch is in place chess. We'll see that could be a deciding factor. Hutchinson also had a bit of that. I've always said with Tim Tebow that he sounds like he just came back in from recess. The way he talks, I don't know what Hutchinson was doing. Maybe it was the hype. Maybe it was him being tired. But it looked like he was hyperventilating at some points out there. And then on the other side, David a jabo if you've watched the ravens at all, and we'll get to that with you on Dilfer after that debacle late on Sunday Night. Away the outside guy for the ravens whose incredible in New Jersey away in a Jabba were actually teammates. So jabo was was stuck overseas for a couple years. He said he didn't even know the rules. He said he was in a game at Michigan and he didn't know why they spiked the football. And these two guys were in the backfield. So this game was about Michigan winning the line of scrimmage the entire time. You want to stat that proves that? Michigan allowed zero tackles for loss in the entire game. It's the first time Ohio State hasn't had at least one tackle for loss in 16 years. So you storm the field, you should. You're playing for a Big Ten championship, something Michigan, you know, the last time machine won the big Dan was 2004. All right? And it gets back to kind of the horror ball point because leading up to a people were doubting, but that's fine, because if you're harbor saying, who's got it better than us and look at us, look at us and all the stuff we ask for attention and you get it and then you don't deliver based on those expectations because of all your attention, you're going to get trash. But as I've said throughout the entire time, I still feel like now for Michigan to be positioned for the third time in Harbaugh's run to at least be in the playoff mix, that's pretty good. It doesn't feel good enough, right? It doesn't feel good enough. You've been Michigan because if you're Michigan, you look in the mirror and you see somebody a little bit different than the rest of us see. But I'm happy for Harbaugh. It's not because I root for him. I've just refused to ever believe this guy's a bad coach. And so if you're gonna be a content person that's just like, hey, what's going on? I don't know, fire him. I could just, if Michigan was cool with harbor if Harbaugh was cool with Michigan, the guy takes a pay cut to almost half of his average salary on the previous deal where it's like 4 million plus incentives that are real incentives, win the Big Ten. Win a game in the playoff. Those are real things that are deserving of those bonuses and maybe he makes that money back if he lives up to the standard that he and everyone in Michigan had. That's why I just was like, hey, look, if they're cool with each other, why does this guy have to get fired? And as I've always said, nobody beats Ohio State at Michigan. They don't beat them. They don't go back and look at recent history here. It doesn't really happen to say, hey, Harbaugh, camping, well, the guys performed didn't do it either. So if you're just supposed to fire them and start all over again, I guess you could, but they're bringing in talent. The quarterback this year, McNamara is really good. They lost their best receiver. They've developed other weapons throughout all of this. So, you know, when I look at the whole Michigan thing, again, what I don't understand what people in my business is, hey, I'm gonna say that terrible things are terrible. Fucking sweet. Sweet lane to live in. Like, I guess there's, I guess there's money in it. Actually, I know there is. I know there is leaning all the way without any like, hey, you know what? I know that he hasn't lived up to expectations, but it doesn't mean that I think he should be fired. So anyway, Michigan gets this done. And they have a very good chance to beat Iowa. I would think. We'll get to Iowa a little bit later. In the second half of this because I'm going to do two college football opens here. And now, you know, who knows? You can be playing for a national championship, which seems kind of weird, but not really, because after Georgia, nobody else is in that group. And that's why after Ohio State beat up on Michigan state, which is a horrible horrible matchup with the defense of Baxter Michigan state, all the passing yards they'd allow the worst team defensively arguably in the country on that side of the football when it came to passing defense. And then it turns into, well, wait a minute. No problem with Ohio State of Alabama. Said it last week. No problem whatsoever. I've seen enough Alabama throughout this season, just go, hey, it's not really what you're supposed to be. Even with an 11 one record. All right, we'll get to them. But then to say that Ohio State in Georgia were in the same group, and then it was everybody else. It's like, no, George has been doing this all season long. In a weird way, I feel like Georgia is basically overlooked here. They're 12 and O, here's the amount of points that they've allowed three 7 13 zero zero ten 13 7 6 17 7 and zero against Georgia Tech to close out the regular season this past weekend. They've allowed 80 something points as a team defensively. The defense themselves have only allowed 69 points on the field. No one scored more than 17 against them. And that was Tennessee. And after that, it's 13 points. I'll admit I've said it all season long. I'm like, oh, I'm not sure is the offense really is good. And that comes down to stetson Bennett and not accepting that Bowers at tight end is basically a wide receiver. And that they don't have the traditional running back. You always think it's Georgia is going to light it up, but they've been pretty good. They're third in yards per play offensively in the country. You want to tell me the schedule isn't that great.
A highlight from Duke beats Gonzaga, edges Purdue for No. 1. Tgiving weekend winners: Baylor, Florida, Dayton, LSU, USC and BYU (College Basketball 11/28)
"There it's Gary Parrish it's Sunday November 28th, 2021. Welcome back to the CBS sports. I own college basketball podcast where we sometimes discuss camo fighting dodo birds and leaky black man Orlando is here with me. He's at home. I'm at home, lighting is amazing. We're live on YouTube right now. Norlander podcast where we sometimes just yes. We're live. We are so alive. I had the YouTube stream up so I just got you echoing in my ears. I'm also rocking a new webcam. So this is a whole new situation here, but yes, we are live, chefs to everyone that's actually watching the first ever college basketball video podcast live. This has never been done before. No other college basketball podcast has ever been live on video until I swung right here, so thank you for joining us. You can obviously chat in that side room there and feel free. I'm not gonna be able to see what your texting and tweeting and chatting about, but
A highlight from Lincoln Riley leaves Oklahoma for USC & an epic rivalry weekend
"Welcome to the audible presented by Trader Joe's. I'm Stewart mandel, and I am joined as always by Bruce Feldman for the second time on this Sunday. Just so you guys know, we already recorded an entire podcast talking about rivalry an epic rivalry Saturday, and you're going to hear that discussion in just a minute, but in between the time we recorded that and published the episode, Bruce dropped the bombshell of all coaching bombshells. Lincoln Riley going from Oklahoma to USC. I'm just sitting here still in a bit of shock that something good happened to USC football. And that USC was able to get a guy who LSU wanted as well. Do you based on your reporting on this? Do you feel like this had been kind of in the works for a while and just waiting for the regular season to end or this happened very quickly? From my understanding stew, he was somebody that USC had targeted, but things really escalated late last night and into the morning. So as you and I have a little inside baseball here, but I don't know, probably like three hours before our report came out. I had that kind of cryptic tweet about USC's gonna take a big swing at like at that point I started to hear and he's leaning towards going. I didn't want to put it out there like that. And then but I did put something out there. At that point, it had already ramped up significantly. And then it was going to be talking link from Lincoln Riley talking to his bosses and then there was a lag time of I don't know how long maybe an hour, maybe more than that of he is going to address tell the team he wants to break it to them. And so at that point, I'm sitting there, we're like, I don't know if, you know, I don't know how long this news is gonna is gonna stay kind of under wraps, but it's such a bombshell. And to me, it is not just a bombshell for USC. First and foremost it is, but certainly for the PAC 12, right? And you're talking about a guy who has had the worst season they've had, the worst is they finished 7th. And he has been this brilliant offense of mine who's had a bunch of Heisman caliber guys, either winners or runners up, and I think this is a huge move. Now, who knows how it's going to ultimately play out? Because we thought chip Kelly was going to be a total game changer. And that's taken four years. And you and I have talked a lot about the USC is going to be a heavy lift to renovate, but I think one key point here is Lincoln Riley's recruited really well on the West Coast, and he already has a lot of momentum with that. And with the transportal, I mean, let's see how quickly you can upgrade the defensive side of the balls really shaky and there's a lot of pieces to this. I mean, I'm sure you're going to hear speculation. Oh, Spencer rat is going to follow him back. He's an Arizona guy. He's going to fall back. Who knows? Maybe kaylan Williams will try to go with them. Well, the 2023 quarterback that he got malachite Nelson might need to consider whether he wants to stay closer to home now. Right. I mean, there's a bunch of big time recruits that committed. I think in large part because they want to play for Lincoln Riley. And so as you said, in the beginning of this, man, it's rare when USC not makes a splash, but when USC does seemingly the prudent shrewd like, wow, that you think they have the potential to do it, but they rarely seem to do it. It's why they end up with Lynn Swann and pat Hayden as ADS or why they had clay Hilton for so long. Well, they finally hired a real ID who's qualification with something more than I played football for USC. Back in the day. And clearly, you know, was able to offer him the question is what is USC able to offer Lincoln Riley that he feels like he can't get at Oklahoma? Now what I was told was there was a couple of big things that were appealing to him. One for people who've been around Lincoln for a while. No, he has always had an appeal for Southern California and he's recruited out here a bunch. I know that from having known Lincoln for a long time. So there was that. He knows there's a lot of talent here. I think there was also the big appeal of having the chance to rebuild a brand as big as USC. And I think that is significant to him. Now what I was told is he was impressed by the alignment within the administration on this of how committed they are to this. So it's going to take a lot, but I think what is, you know, the thing that's like a wow factor is, for a while, with these jobs, a big jobs that were open were like, okay, we know Scott Woodward is the guy who makes the splashy hires. You know, it was USC and Mike bone that made really the splashy higher for two weeks. We heard all these wild rumors and reports about how Lincoln Riley was going to go for, I don't know how many dollars a year. Yeah, and I remember putting it out there. He's not that's not the job he's going. He's not leaving there to go be the LSU head coach. I didn't know ten days ago when I said that that he was going to leave to be the USC head coach. But then Sunday morning, this thing, as I said, and you know, as I'm reporting, this thing really ramped up significantly overnight and into the morning, and here we are, you know, if you're a USC fan, I think you are as happy as you probably been, I don't know. Pete Carroll was there. Yeah, but since when Pete Carroll was a head coach, that's true. It makes me wonder, first of all, Lincoln was not necessarily on board with the decision to go to the SEC for many for whatever reason that may be. I mean, there are perfectly good reason. I know it's the NFL of college football, but if you're the head coach at Oklahoma and you've kind of had the ability to you're the unquestioned alpha in the big 12 right now and have been for some time and you're going to go be one of Alabama LSU Florida, Georgia. And so on and so forth. Might not be all that appealing. Also not appealing? That LSU fired a national championship coach less than two years after winning the national championship. So there's that. Also, you know, I think I want to circle back to something said earlier. This is a big, big day for USC, but as I wrote in a column that's going on in the athletic today, it's a big day for the
A highlight from NFL Week 12 Monday Night Football: Seattle Seahawks at WFT Pick, Predictions, Odds
"Another week of NFL football has almost come and gone may as well start with what we saw transpire in the Queen city last night between the ravens and browns, a half of football that may have set the National Football League back plenty of years given an aptitude from both squads. It was a division game. That's what it was. And you had Lamar Jackson still working his way back from an illness, so he hasn't played in a couple of weeks. And I think stefania bell had something that was actually very informative and she had done like a ten year data dive on quarterbacks that had missed a week with an illness and how they performed the week after. And believe it was like a 5% drop off metrically and then another 15% plus in fantasy production. So you could tell Lamar was off missing some reads, Baker Mayfield. The guy right now is just playing beat up. And if he was an average to an above average quarterback, now you have that with a shoulder injury and a foot injury. And there's also just not a ton of weapons there. I mean, it's Jarvis lander who's a possession receiver. Two tight ends. And really, that's about it. You're relying on your ground game and your offensive line. And Jack Conklin, who returned? Left quite quickly in that game, and it sounds like a torn patellar tendon, so not great there. And give Wink Martindale some credit. He said that we're going to make baker beat us through the air. He couldn't really send a lot of run blitzes last night, and so anytime you're the Cleveland Browns and you have Kareem hunt and Nick Chubb going for 36 total rushing yards on 15 carries. It's probably not going to be a great night for your offense. Should I be overly critical of the browns getting too cute when they have a chance for some momentum multiple times and we get a trick play from Jarvis Landry who looked like he thought he was going to be able to outrun a bunch of squirts playing football, not realizing there could be pressure coming from behind? There was some pressure coming from behind. It was a ton of turnovers last night. Both sides of the ball. It was a sloppy sloppy game. There's no doubt about that. Yeah. And when you look at Cleveland, things won't get much easier they, of course, head into a buy. They'll get the ravens again in two weeks. Meanwhile the ravens will head to Pittsburgh to take on the Steelers, a team that struggled, it might not be a strong enough word. And their performance against the Cincinnati Bengals. But as we always do here on Mondays, we start with the good the bad and the ugly pain. So I want to give you a chance to highlight a lot of the good I'll admit I was in transit for most of the day yesterday did not watch much more than the first quarter of the bucks and colts game. So tried to do everything I could at least through the lens of box scores and reading more so than watching these games unfolded my very own eyes. Let's start with the game in our backyard here. And much to our chagrin along with our listeners had a quicker start than we thought in the Miami game. Obviously, very difficult to win an under 21 when there is a blocked punt for a touchdown and then a 9 yard touchdown drive after a turnover. But I thought Miami played well, they came out, a lot of energy. This is a team that shockingly is still in the playoff mix. And they know that and I just thought for the first time all year, they went into a game with a fantastic plan and you could actually sit down and watch and say, hey, that makes sense. And then dig back into the metrics after the game and be like, shit, Miami had a real offensive game plan and executed it. And so when you just look at Miami's offense, we know where they're deficiency lies. It's the offensive line. They're 32nd dead last and pass block win rate. And you were going up against a Carolina defense that is blitz happy, generate a ton of pressure. So if you look too, I had the quickest time to throw of any quarterback yesterday, 2.3 seconds, delivered it accurately. Third best completion percentage above expectation. And then all of a sudden what you did in the draft paid off. You went out and got like a man beater and jaylen waddle. And he was dominant against man coverage yesterday. 68% of the team's air yards. Defensively. Coverages confused Cam Newton. There is a lot of interchangeable chess pieces in the secondary for Brian Flores and Cam Newton 43% below expectation for his completion percentage worst mark of any quarterback this season. Now, when I look at him, this is game two. And a brand new system. Everyone's like, oh, games going back to Caroline. Everything's going to be perfect. It's a brand new system. He wasn't there with Joe Brady. And I think this is an offense that is going to need to adapt to Cam Newton's skill set. If Joe Brady thinks that he's going to be a drop back passer to get the ball out on time and accurately, this experiment is not going to work. That's something to look for here from Carolina moving forward offensively. If this is going to be an offense that's adapted to cam's strengths a little bit more than what we saw yesterday. When you look at two, I know back to back games with over 80% completion. You talked about his numbers above expectation. Have you seen things fundamentally change? Or is this a better indication of the dolphins at least getting idea of his skill sets maybe in being a little bit healthier? And a chance to build some momentum in the wake of a now what is a four game winning streak with two variable two very winnable games on deck when they have home games against both teams hailing from New York? I was a proponent of going to get deshaun Watson. Probably still am if the price tag is right. But two has made this decision very tough. And I think the problem with two is can you rely on him to be out there? He's constantly having these nagging injuries. But we're now almost two years removed from the major hip injury. I think the question mark is like the upside, right?
A highlight from CFB POD: Are You Not Entertained?; Write The Headline
"The ESPN football podcast hosted by Paul finebaum and Matt berry. Say it ain't so. It is the final edition of the regular season version. Of the ESPN college football podcast, your tradition, unlike any other Paul find bob Matt Barry alongside this, I have said it over and over and over and over again. Thanksgiving weekend rivalry weekend is the best that college football has to offer Paul I would say that Thursday through Saturday did not disappoint whatsoever. No, it was extraordinary. You and I were talking off the air about the game you did Friday night with NC state and North Carolina and it was it was like watching one of these events at Madison Square Garden where everyone shows up and it's just it's an endless stream of the greatest of all time. And that's what we got. And Matt we've said it a few times already this year about this season being as exciting as any that we could have in recent memory yesterday as it was in, you know, I'll let you choose where to start, but I think we probably ought to start an Ann Arbor. Yeah, I was just going to ask you because there are so many places and games and storylines and angles that we can attack. But let's start with the game in Ann Arbor because we'll just go, I mean, if you really want to start it in order, we'd start back at the egg ball, but we're gonna start Saturday. And that game, I couldn't help but feel good. For Jim Harbaugh, I have said on this podcast numerous times, I've said it on college football final I've said it in every college football thing that I do, maybe even SportsCenter that I thought Ohio State among all of the teams when they were clicking, they could be the most difficult to beat. That was part one. Part two, I just didn't think Michigan had the guys to stop him. I was dead wrong. Jim Harbaugh got his coveted win, stops the 8 game losing streak to the buckeyes. That was an amazing watch scene and atmosphere. And like I said, I just couldn't help but say, you know what? Good for Jim Harbaugh. And Matt I'll say the same thing. I genuinely felt happy for Jim Harbaugh. I know what the narrative has been coming out of my mouth and I appreciate everyone reminding me. But I genuinely loved what I saw with him and I have to take my hat off to this guy because I don't know if there's a major coach in the country that has been pummeled by more people. Hey, by the way, forget the media. I mean, we're pundits. His own fan base. His own administration was on the verge last year of trying to figure out where to go, so they cut his salary. And he took every punch. He never said very much. And he put an absolute masterpiece on the board yesterday. He made Ryan day look silly. He made all of us look silly. He had his team was dominant. They were crushing. They were suffocating. And I don't know where the national coach of the year will go caution certainly has a shot at it. Others do as well and we'll figure it out after next week. But I would have to put him very high on my list of coach of the years, because of not only did he put that on the board, he exceeded expectations and he really shut everyone up in the country, including myself. Yeah, you were vocal about saying you didn't thank Carl was gonna beat or have what it takes to beat Ohio State, but you weren't alone because this Michigan team said this is a number of times on Saturday doing TV. This was the most unheralded of the Michigan teams. This wasn't the one that people were pointing to ranking in the top 5 or four to begin the season. I remember you and I, years back when we were doing those morning sports centers on the weekend. I think I had Michigan in my preseason playoff. This was not the team. Jim Harbaugh was not mouthing off. He wasn't doing all of his stunts. He wasn't going on spring break with Marty Smith in Rome. He was just playing football. And you know where I stand on this, I know a lot of people got asked me last week for what I said about Dan Mullen, just some other coaches in general. There are times Mark stoops at Kentucky. This at Michigan. When you are patient with a coach, when you just sit and wait and see and let it develop and happen, sometimes, and I'll use the caveat. Sometimes done. But this is one where it seems to have worked out because they just relaxed. You can't compare yourself to Ohio State, much like if you're in the SEC, you can't compare yourself to Alabama because it's just not fair. But every once in a while, everything will align perfectly. You will have the team to compete. You will have the team that can scheme with someone like Ohio State, which by the way, the defense took out every star we see where they had minus Jackson Smith and jiggle. And you're going to get a win. And now Paul, you think Iowa's going to go in there and beat them into the Big Ten championship? I don't. Jim Harbaugh has Michigan minus something shocking in Indianapolis in the college football playoff and it's remarkable. It is. And I will say as we watch the season unfold, you know, I kept saying to myself, well, they look pretty good. They're winning tough games. And then when they blew that game against Michigan state, we all typically overreacted. And then we overreacted again when the committee with a straight face that we think Michigan's better. They were right. Oh, they love me too. They should have done or not to irrelevant, but that's for another year. But yeah, I think if you're a hardcore football fan and I've come away really admiring and respecting this guy and yeah, this is who I thought he was when he was hired. He got away from it a little bit. Everyone does. But give war to manual manual credit. He stuck with him. I wouldn't have. Most wouldn't have. And he profited as a result. And he is one of those, and you know, Paul, you know my stance on this. My question is always then who are you going to get? And I legitimately believe word manual in there and said, okay. This is Jim Harbaugh, Michigan football. He's a Boseman beckler prodigy quarterback kid eats sleeps, drinks, milk steak and everything that is Michigan football from back in the 80s when he played here. He's taken a team to a Super Bowl. He got Stanford to heights, they hadn't seen since maybe a couple of years under Shaw. Who are we gonna get if we if we get rid of this guy? And that side one. And there were times where people didn't like the way Jim Harbaugh went about his business in public through the media and I've set I sit here this morning. I haven't heard a PEEP out of him this year. And you know why? 'cause he just decided to coach and play football in Michigan's reaping the rewards. So congratulations to them. Again, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong. You think Iowa and Spencer petris is no, no. No. And it would be exciting. Michigan is one of those brand names. That needed to get to the college football playoff. And Michigan and anyone is a very choice model. I want that helmet in the playoff. That helmet needs to find its way in the playoff and it's going to be fun to watch. The other rivalry game of many that we could sit here with this morning and there's going to be one fan base that is absolutely stunned by the outcome. The iron bowl in auburn. First time in the iron bowls history, 86 meeting between the two that it goes to overtime. Alabama wins 24 22. I don't want to say four overtime. It's really not for overtime. It's penalty kicks at that point, once you play your play or two. And Bryce young stayed strong, stayed tall and Brian harsh in and that team's gonna be waking up this morning, saying all hell, we let the iron bowl get away.
A highlight from Hour 3; Jordan Rodgers, Matt Stinchcomb, & Laura Rutledge
"The pride passion then pageantry of college football lives here. This is the Paul Fein bomb show hour three podcast. We're back. We are live in auburn. Beautiful day is Alabama. I would say they're in town. I don't think they are. They usually stay in Montgomery the night before. They'll be here tomorrow by this point in the game in the day tomorrow. We'll be ending the second quarter at Jordan hare stadium. The scoreboard will look different. Jordan Rodgers joining us now will roger's brother. Yeah, we've sorted that out. Also related to the Roy Rogers. There's a lot of family history, I'm just learn about here. Well, you're a younger brother played really well last night. He did. Yeah. Yeah, I'm trying to ask him for a few pointers. He didn't help me out much when I played. He was only 6, though. Let's talk about let's talk about, I don't even know what we're talking about anymore. But let's start here because it's the only thing I can remember after the last few minutes. But this is a game that we all know the history, but in terms of real realistic possibility or probability, what does auburn have to do tomorrow? They got to do a lot. I think if you're an auburn fan and you watched last week, you could go into this matchup, saying, hey, we can make some plays downfield. I would hesitate with that only because Arkansas has built much different than auburn on the outside. They got big dynamic physical receivers. Not as big not as physical. Their speed is something that they can take an advantage of at times, but this game has to be one at the line of scrimmage. And for auburn and for TJ Finley, it's the RPO games. They got an I'm gonna do a breakdown on it tomorrow, but I think when people think of RPOs, they think, hit these big slant routes and these huge plays off of, no, no. If you can just get a guy to move one or two yards in one direction, that can give tank bigsby a little more air to work with. That's really all auburn needs to do. Try to move somebody two, three, four yards in one direction so you can hope to create an advantage. That's where they need to live. I think if there is one advantage to be had, and you can watch the Arkansas game and say, there are some things that auburn can do with their tight ends. Abram used a lot of tight ends two and three tight ends at a time. That's how they can try to create an advantage. Create long edges for will Anderson so we can't get after their quarterback. And some short, easy throws for TJ Finley. But there's a lot more ways you could say Alabama is going to run away with this thing than there is say auburn has a chance to win this. There is a path, but it's very narrow right now. On the other side, we've been talking about so much about next week in Georgia played it with Charleston southern and Georgia Tech, Alabama played Arkansas in auburn. It's a totally different path to get there. I know, in some ways the intensity level remains high, but so does the physical wear and tear. And that's tough. I mean that's something that I think this conferences team's got to look at, going into this, right? Because it doesn't matter that auburn's just an okay football team, right? It doesn't matter if they were terrible football team. It's the fact that this game is physical. It doesn't matter who shows up what the records are. This is going to be a physical brawl for at least a half depending on what happens. For a good part of this game, it's going to be physical, physically taxing, and that's what Alabama's got to walk into next week, whereas George is going to have a much different scenario. And if they can, they're going to get those starters out as quickly as possible. So yes, it does create a little bit of a I don't want to say complete competitive advantage, you know? But it's definitely an advantage for Georgia. Talking to Jordan Rogers here we're live in in auburn. I do want to go back to the last night, because sometimes there are those Thursday night games you move on. You forget about them. But it's still I'm still shaking my head in amazement at what lane kiffin did this year, ten and two, you were there the other night. And we thought he had a chance for a good season with the Mac or ten and two. Unbelievable. I tell you what. It would be an unbelievable feat if all miss had been healthy on offense the whole year. The fact that they weren't, I mean, at times missing at least three of their receivers at all at different times, they're starting tight in. They were Matt crow was banged up. What lane kiffin did, so really, I think changed the trajectory of where he's going as a head coach. Changed the perception. I think at times of what a lot of people thought of lane kiffin. We all knew he was an extremely bright offensive mind, but he's definitely a very, very good head coach now. But I say all that to say, all that, I think overshadows the real reason I'll miss is ten and two. DJ durkin in this defense this offense was injured and not healthy, and they weren't as explosive as they were last year. A lot of games were their scoring 30, 31 points and for Elaine, Kevin offense, that's not good. But old miss held 9 of their 12 opponents to 24 less points. Can you just fathom that for how bad they were last year? And it wasn't just that they were scoring 50 and holding guys to 2024 points. They were scoring 30 and scoring holding that defense Holden teams to 24, 21 points. That was the difference. I mean, the improvement of that defense DJ durkin what he did, the addition of chance Campbell, I think was huge. Sam Williams on the outside, that was the difference this year. All that together makes a very special season. I want so interesting. Many have forgotten successful head assistant coach, you went to Maryland. Battled is well for his past. He lost his job there in a really tragic situation. He got the volume for. And I remember lane kiffin reaching out to some Friends saying I want to hire this guy because we need him, but what kind of hit what we take? And I think he finally decided it didn't matter. It wouldn't be that significant. And it really hasn't been. No, but I remember, I remember the name, right? You remember DJ durkin and just there was that stigma around it because of what happened at his previous stop. It really wasn't necessarily on his plate. But whatever it was, there was baggage that came with it and lane kiffin said, no, I'm going to take a chance here. I also got partridge in there as well. And those two worked dynamically together. But that takes lane kiffin from being a really good offensive coach to a really good head coach. To doing not just one side of the ball really well and not just staying in your lane for pun intended there. But actually something out bigger schools bigger. Other schools can look at this and go, hey, this guy is no longer just a great offensive mind. He's a really good head coach for what he's put together on both sides of the football and how he's shaped that old miss football team for sure. Talking to Jordan, Jordan, there are a lot of other games tomorrow and that we would have I originally I thought the Florida Florida state game was going to be where a lot of our focus was with Dan Mullen gone. It's lost some of that luster. Yeah. Florida reportedly close to getting a new headcount. You're doing LSU, Texas a and MMR, a lot of rumors swirling around that. As you've gotten ready for that week, how would you describe what you've heard from both sides? It's interesting. You continue in just talking to Jimbo. You have to ask the questions. And again, he gives the same answers that he gave a million times on TV about how special what they're doing there is. Recruiting facilities. I get all that. I don't think Jimbo's going anywhere. But I do think this is an interesting game for them. It's a game that they could lose. They're playing okay football right now. Offensively they're not playing great football and LSU has a team that has nothing to lose. We'll find out what they're going to do with their future. But you have a head coach and coach O that you want to know what he wants to he wants to walk off that field and say, hey, see that? Look, you know what I mean? So I
A highlight from Hour 4: Allen Greene, Gene Chizik, & Tim Cook
"Evening, the night before the iron bowl. I couldn't remember. I've never covered one of these. Alan green is joining us. We have a big final hour. He's the athletic director at auburn university three hours ago. We spoke to Brian, who certainly one of your recent hires here. And it's really good to see the coach. Alan, how are you? And I know this is a rather busy weekend. It's awesome we can pull them doing great and worry and it's funny. I was in the war eagle. I was in The Bahamas earlier this week with our men's basketball team. So forgive my tan if y'all for those who don't have a great governor right now. And now we're back here for the iron bowl. Yeah, I was watching, was it the oyster Wednesday? Yeah, I was watching the game Wednesday Wednesday. Play the game. Double overtime game against Yukon. We came up a little bit short, but it was a hell of an effort. Now those things happen. So a little warmer weather here in The Bahamas and over here. I'll just tell you it was about the same. Now let's let you believe that. It is a tough job. You go to The Bahamas for a basketball game. I'm so Cole. I can't remember what sport was ever. And you come back for the iron bowl. That must be fun. It's only like 50° Paul. It's not that cold. Yeah, you know what? That's part of our job. I mean, you just go up north. But the beautiful thing about what we get to do is spend time with our student athletes and I know people joke about, you know, you spend a couple of days in The Bahamas, but when you're with a team on the road, that's when you really get a chance to get to know the players spend time with the coaches. I've been able to do that with volleyball for the a and M trip before I end in football game. So that's the beautiful part of our job. That is. And you're a former student athlete. I'm sure you can relate to it very, very well. But on that subject, because there's so much conversation lately about the changing ways of student athletes now that they can profit. What do you see when you talk to them? What do you hear? Well, first, I consider myself now an old man because I'm saying, you know, kids these days. But that's just part of the maturation process. And I have, you know, I have a 16 year old who is on Instagram quite a bit. And so I'm starting to get acclimated to just this new generation and how they see the world. And funny enough, you know, Tim Cook is in town and I know he's going to be on the show in a little bit. But I was talking with him and coach Harrison, just right before we came down here about the expectations of young people and they aspire higher and shorter moments in time. They wanted to happen more quickly. And so we have to learn to embrace all that the younger generation that they deal with that they come with because they are going to be our future. And it takes some sage wisdom to try to share with those folks. And but also learn from them as well. And so we have to really be ambitious. We can't be afraid of change. That's the only thing that's constant in our lives. And so the more that we can embrace it the better off we're going to be in the long run. I'm interested in what you think about this part of it. Nick Saban said this the other night, but others have said it as well about fans being self absorbed, expecting too much. And I look at it a little bit differently because I'm my constituency are the fans. As yours is. You do want to please them, but you don't want to tell them how they should view something. But I am curious how you view the rancor out there, the noise. Because there's a lot of it. Well, I think there's two sides to the coin. So if you're in the locker room, number one, I think you get over wins faster, and you go over losses faster. And the responsibility is to prepare for the next game. As a former baseball player, you can go zero for three on Monday, but you had a chance to do to get on Tuesday. And my golf game, I got to have a quick hug a quick short term memory. And so I think that's part of what we and our responsibility is as administrators and as coaches is to help prepare them because we know that the real world is full of opportunities to grow and you typically do so in failure. But no one likes that. No one likes to be in that space, but sometimes it takes that space to get to where you out ultimately want to be. And I think from the fan perspective is they want what everybody wants. Every fan base wants to win. And every fan base wants to win one, two, three, four more games than they already are, or they want to win by a bigger margin than they already have. And I think that's the dynamic that we're in. But I will tell you that when I talk to folks in the auburn family, I tell them, I care about us winning. I care about us developing our student athletes. And I said, this is my livelihood. This is what keeps the roof over my kids head and food in their bellies. So I can guarantee you that I want to win. Same to with our coaches. So we're going to continue to do all that we can as the environment continues to change. Do the best we can to manage the outside perspective, but our focus has got to be on helping those young people manage the wins and manage the losses successfully. How do you square the two? Because I know where you're coming from. You're about to ask me a question that's on square. I believe you're sincere and I know you're history indicates it. But we also saw this program make a change last year because winning was not enough. It goes on every day of the week in our profession. And you have to care about what's right, but ultimately, it's the team isn't winning. It's going to overshadow everything else. Of course, right. And we've seen that happen this year. And we've seen the folks, the schools who have made changes in leadership and football. I think that's the reality. And we have to accept that that's a reality. Particularly in this league. This is the most difficult competitive league in the country. And arguably the west division is the most competitive division in college football. And we sit swipe right smack dab in the middle. It is cold fall. But we sit right smack in the middle of a great football team in Alabama and a great football team in Georgia. And our fan base wants to be at that level. Our football program wants to be at that level and it's our responsibility to do all that we can to help make sure that we're there. I said I wouldn't ask you any unanswerable questions, but I will ask you one, because we're closing in on the end of the season. Our can change a narrative very much. But I am interested in, I think all the auburn family would be interested in your assessment of the first year under Brian harston. Yeah.
A highlight from Hour 1: Bryan Harsin, Tim Tebow, Kris Budden, & Mike Griffith
"The pride passion and pageantry of college football lives here. This is the qualifying bomb show hour two podcast. Well, we have made it to auburn, Alabama. The iron bowl. I think you know what that means. The deepest and most fiercest rivalry in the country is 20 four and a half hours away. We're live on the spectacular campus of auburn, looking inside Jordan hare stadium as we say hello to you for the next four hours and we're delighted to be here on this Thanksgiving weekend. And we're thankful to have coach Bryan joining us at the top coach. It's great to see you and your team had a great Thanksgiving. I know it's not a restful week with the Alabama game coming up. Right, yeah. It's not. Yeah, a lot of preparation and certainly our focus is on the iron bowl, but we had a chance to practice early on Thursday, get out with families, all the players had a chance to get with coaches and somebody to be here during this time. And it was good. But refocused back now on getting ourselves one more day prepared before we go out there and play tomorrow. Coach, you've seen some big rivalries in your life and your career. And I'm sure everyone has whispered to you coach. Let me just explain to you what this is all about, but it seems like you have a pretty good grasp. Once you land in this day, but as you're going through the final workout in a minute and the meetings before this game, what do you feel and what do you think about this event? Yeah, the first question I got asked after I did my press conference on the 24th was what do you know about the iron bowl? And so you knew right then and there how important this is rivalry week. It's important for a lot of reasons, but you look at your schedule. You know at the end of the year, you want to finish with a win. You want to finish successfully and you're going to finish against the team, you play every single year. And there's a lot on the line. You know, the fan base is everybody. And the one thing that I've been asked all week, what do you know about the iron bowl? Well, I've watched this game and it's one that every single year you're looking forward to no matter where you are. You know who's playing in the game. It's auburn Alabama. And so to be a part of that, we're excited for. You know, we need to focus on the game and what we have to do to win it. But also know that this is a special game and there's a lot that comes with it. And so handle that properly and then go out there and play four quarters and be ready to fight. It's a rivalry game. You never know what can happen and certainly that's what our focus is. It would also say that I want you to answer this as big as this theater is going to be tomorrow and it's huge. You've already played at Penn State in prime time at a whiteout. You've played Georgia. You've been to Texas a and M, you've been the gauntlet as big as this game is. I would daresay this team of yours as well prepared for it. Well, I hope so. I mean, that's really what this whole season has been about. You know, every single game you learn something, you apply it to the next week. You get better. Hopefully, you know, and we did some things early on in the season. We've had a few games that have been disappointing, but you learn from that and you apply it to what you're doing. And right now, our team is very focused on what we have to do to be successful in this game. You know, four quarters, execution, all the things we talk about each and every year. But at the same time, go out there and like you said this stage and playing in this game. Be excited about that. Enjoy the opportunity. When you step on the field and you're playing against a really good football team, Alabama's one of the best teams in the country and have been for a long time. Well, have yourself ready to play and certainly go out there and what we say cut it loose and go out there and play four full quarters. I know if you're watching this from a distance, you can say to yourself with three weeks ago, this program in some ways controlled its own destiny and now it doesn't. I know these are more for after the season evaluations, but in the moment what are you feeling about where this team is? Yeah, we did. You know, we had that 6 and two start and you put yourself in a position to do exactly what you say to control your destiny and it comes down to you're playing really good teams. You know, that's the one thing. You're playing really good teams, you get into your division. Everybody wants to win. Everybody wants to play for a championship. Well, you got to understand what that takes week in and week out. And so, you know, it's not ever one thing. It's a combination of things, but what we feel like here is we're building this culture. We're building this program to hopefully be a championship type program. And what our team did this year and the things that we've learned and certainly the season's not over yet. We've got to go finish tomorrow. You know, we got to take all that when the season's over. What did we learn from that? How do we apply it moving forward? What are some of the pieces that we need? What can we do better as a staff?
A highlight from Hour 2: Roman Harper & Robert Griffin III
"Gorgeous stayed on here as the iron ball has arrived on the planes. We have already spoken to coach. And he is ready to go in his first iron ball as the auburn football coach. Let's continue with more phone calls and grace is up next in Birmingham. Grace Garrett. I've tried not to call this season, but the coach, we got rid of Gus. Now it's time for because I'm 76. I shouldn't have to go through this. Week after week with auburn, that South Carolina fourth and one, he threw a pass. I just never seen anything like it before in my life. He's on board the state, the grass is blue there. He don't know what nothing about the NCC. We need to get someone over and wake up. Get someone that know how to coach for the SEC territory. Now, I've been tempted to go down the auburn and depth coach, but I don't think I could type being down there. They would probably call the police on me. I would call the police on me. You said you were 76. Is that right? Right, I wore eagles, my blood, orange and blue, but listen, Gus, he nearly gave my heart attack. We finally got rid of him. This guy Carson, I just never could put my finger on his two, not like saber, Sabrina's up and down a sideline, just, you know, into it, but we had fourth and one that we could have won that game in South Carolina, but he throw how this guy to throw a pass. Now I don't think I run him back was up and down that field that day. Last Saturday. So this is first I am bone cotar and it'll be your last. Okay, well, great, thank you. For sure. I don't even know how to respond. But I hope you have a great weekend grace and enjoy the game. Tony is up next in Tuscaloosa. Hello Tony. How are you doing? We are doing great. Thank you. I just want to let you guys know that I am a true Alabama fan. I've been Alabama fans of the day I was born and I am a very grateful Alabama fan. Very grateful and excited to fan. Thank you, Nick, save us being here, coach. He laid Alabama football relevant again and just thank you for doing that. Tony, thank you. Dominique is up next in Jacksonville. Hey, Dominique, go right ahead. Paul, what's he doing? How you doing, Paul? Dominique, I'm doing great. Thank you. You know, I want to say this. You know, Roman Harper is one of my brother ex teammates at Alabama, Marcus mcknight. We were there with our cheese has deep close friends already gave our brothers scholarship out of Italian for then we got all of Alabama. We are on great coast saving a 100%. We have been together titled to be winning all the time. I remember going with my brother when we was when it speaks to 5 games. And there's junior year we won the car, but we want to live and that was Mike too. Second year there I think we coach Saban hit the nail on the head. We gotta be appreciate for this team. We are young. We lost a lot of guys off our team last year Paul. So many bandwagon fake fans start joining the team when we start winning. You know it and I know. Well, Dominika Dominic hold on a second. I mean, thanks for the call, but I like Griffin's Griffith said. Alabama's been winning. I mean, they won national championships under half a dozen coaches. So this has been something that's really been going on a very long time. Big dog is up next in Atlanta. Hello. Mister Paul, Paul find on how you doing, sir. What are you doing well? Thank you. Hey, I'm Georgia. This is what graduate the country's and want to talk just
A highlight from Duke-Gonzaga Preview; Feast Week Takeaways; Give it to My Dad
"Seth Greenberg. On campus I'm Seth Greenberg, joined by Jay billis and lafonta Ellis. And we are on Las Vegas to roll in basically the confines of our own separate rooms. Probably make sense. And feast week. Coming to an end, but as we come to an end the 5th week, we've got a really special game and I know Jay, you're on the call and you have a chance to watch duke and watch Gonzaga practice. Just what's your first take on that game, because that game to me has all the makings of an instant classic and maybe even a final four national championship game. It is basketball royalty playing against one another and two teams. I mean, the last time I can remember them playing was in the Maui invitational with Zion Williamson RJ Barrett, Rui Hashimoto, all those guys and Gonzaga won the game. It was an unbelievable heavyweight fight. And I think this game will be similar that, you know, I think Gonzaga is one of the best offensive basketball teams that I can recall in the game. With all of their cutting or vertical cuts, you know, they'll late cut into things and the different sets they run and they have 5 guys that can legitimately dribble pass and shoot. And you know, people talk about multi positional, but they really are. And to be able to take like a 7 foot two guy chat homegirl who's a freshman, and they can space him out in the corner, run action and a big guy can't protect the basket because he's worried about a three. I mean, it's remarkable. And then I think duke is legit. I think it's got the chance to be a great game. But you know, after I watch Gonzaga, if you're all watch kids, I can take apart UCLA, you kind of feel one as the favorite and I think it's Gonzaga. What are your first thoughts? Yeah, my first thoughts are similar. They're incredible the way they run offense. I mean, the way you Gonzaga pushes that basketball and misses N makes tremendous pressure on your transition defense. And then once you do get set, their ability to space the floor, they can go 5 hours and before round one makes an incredibly hard to defend them. And as I watch duke, if they try to deny passing lanes and get really up and in the basketball, I think they it will expose them to a degree because to Jay's point, all 5 guys can put it on the floor and get to the middle that can put it on the floor and get to the middle and be able to create place for others. And I'm intrigued by the matchup with Paolo Ben Caro and drew Timmy. And I think it's going to be important early, especially for the young freshmen to not get himself in file trouble, but really both from the post. And when he catches it out on the floor, trying to get drew Timmy and some filed trouble. And if he can do that, it puts duke in a really good position. Yeah, I think Timmy's gonna end up getting matched up with Mark Williams early on in the game, at least. I don't know, you know, I think if smaller, I think, I think we're going to see that match up. But you know, to me, you know, you made a point about pressure. And duke seems to be back to old school duke. An old school duke was up into the bald and iron ball reversal up the line that I entry passes and the spacing of Gonzaga is special. Their cutting is more than special. Jay, you mentioned they got four gamers and playmakers all over the floor, which kind of puts a lot of pressure on that. Their ability to play on the ball or off the ball. And I've been fascinated with Julian's strawberry because he's like cork kissberg one. Yeah. Big time three point shooter, very good cutter rebounds. His position straight line, more of a straight line driver, I've been really pressed with him and I've been blown away by the poise, the patient's, the manner in which Andrew net heart is carrying himself. He said, not a good leader is a great leader. He never gets sped up. He plays it his own pace. He advanced passes the ball up when the opportunities there. You go underneath the ball screen. He's going to knock down a three. He moves to the open spot when he feeds the post. I don't think that pressure can bother this Gonzaga Gonzaga team. What your guys thought on that, Jay? I think that's the whole key to the game is due because I agree with you. I think duke is trying to pressure more. They're trying to play out in passing lanes more, which they haven't been doing as much in the last several years. So it's going to be pressure at every spot. And so the big question is going to be can do push Gonzaga a little bit further out on the floor. You know, maybe make nem heart turn his back a little bit. In initiating and then extend the catch if you can extend every catch that might be able to disrupt some of the timing and cutting actions, take away some vision. That's easy to say. Everybody says they want to do that. And that was my biggest question. Like I was asking all the, you know, all the Gonzaga guys, 'cause I haven't seen it. I haven't seen anybody speed up and or never yet.
A highlight from Cincy at #4, coaching carousel & mailbag
"We are taping this on Thanksgiving eve, stew before we talk about the CFP latest rankings and a bunch of other stuff. A very important member of the college football media and the Alabama family passed away. Cecil hurt, you and I both know him and we didn't know him the way our colleague Aaron subtle did. He had a rota very beautiful tribute to his mentor and close friend. I want to ask you what you'll think of most and remember most fondly about cecl heart. I think I'll remember, first of all, it was really just really sad to we had there were indications that he wasn't doing well he'd been in the hospital for a few weeks. But still, when I saw the Aaron's tweet that he had died, it was really one of those where you're just like, you have to stop and think and really process it. Just every time, look, because of Nick Saban, I've covered a lot of Alabama games over the last decade plus and of course Cecil was always there. And usually frankly, it was one of the first people I would see when I stepped foot in the press box. You know, he, I think he really enjoyed talking to the out of town media when they came through. We always had good conversations. And of course, in Aaron mentioned this in his column, the Internet has kind of for the most part made it. So everybody's an expert and everybody's an authority. Regardless of where they're located, but there was no question like, all right up until the end Cecil was the authority on Bama in that market. Yeah, again, like you said, it was unique because we've all spent in the national media so much time around Alabama, especially at the playoff, because they've been so dominant. And he is the dean of that beat. And I can't really imagine going to an Alabama game walk in the press box and him not being there, right? I mean, he was such an institution for that unlike. I mean, there's a handful of other writers who've been on beats for a long, long periods of time. I'm not sure any probably that I can think of on such a prominent beat have been there as long as he was. And it was pretty touching to read so many different layers, obviously there was there was aarons, but there were so many other people who had some kind of interaction with him in one way or other whether they knew him for years or in the case of our colleague Dana O'Neill on the college basketball side, her daughter's a student there. And I don't think she knew Cecil all that well, but he was going to be a be a resource if the family ever needed anything. And I thought that was, you know, it was a really sweet thing. Nick Saban put out a really. You know, just really touching statement. And we know that while most football coaches aren't frankly, all that fond of the people that cover the team and Sabin is at least seen as one of those guys, but he was very fond of Cecil. I can remember being at SEC media days a few years ago and coaches usually do often the coaches will do a, I don't want to call it secret, but a private session before they go out to the main stage. It's a bunch of national writers and cecl. In fact, Cecil was already in there. So he clearly trusted and respected him. So all our deepest condolences to Cecil's family and friends and everybody in that media market and also just Alabama football fans who have been reading him for, you know, in many cases for four decades. We are recording this also the morning after the latest playoff rankings. I don't think there was anything in controversial, it feels like the controversies have for the most part gone away. The big, I think the big highlight for people that was seeing Cincinnati in the top four and finally, seeming to finally climb that mountain. The only thing is, I was a little surprised at some of the commentary for grocery comes to mind. Others of like, okay, now they're in the top four if they went out they're in. Ask 2014, TCU, how secure you are, if it's possible to get knocked back out of the top four by somebody else. I still think I'd be really surprised once you're in the top four at this late stage. If they could get knocked out, you know, just looking at it this way, east Carolina is a decent team, but they're not going to get their 7 and four if they beat them maybe 7 and 5. I don't think that would give them much of a boost. Obviously, Houston, there are ten and one. That's a different story. At least Houston is now in the top 25. Albeit barely at 24. I don't know. It's like, I think what to me is at risk of happening if your Cincinnati and you're looking at, okay, what could what could knock us out without us losing? Obviously, they need Georgia to beat Alabama. If Alabama wins that game, you got two SEC teams going in it. And rightly so if they were to win that game, assuming Alabama does beat auburn in the iron bowl and they're sitting there at what would amount to be 12 and one and Georgia's 12 and one. Then you have what I would assume would be if it's a one loss, Big Ten team, whether it's Ohio State or Michigan and then there's Cincinnati. Now the wild card in this is Oklahoma state. I mean, do you think it Oklahoma could leapfrog all the way if they won two games in a row, including bedlam, it's a top ten win. And you got Baylor sitting there at 8. I mean, is it possible? You think Oklahoma at 12 and one could actually leapfrog Cincinnati. I definitely think Oklahoma state would. You think they would or you think they could? No, would. That's what I don't understand why people aren't for some reason, Oklahoma state has gotten no attention, no acclaim. At the end of the day, if they beat Oklahoma this week, and then they would play Baylor and if they beat them again, you're gonna be a 12 and one power 5 champion with three top 15 wins. That team's not getting left out. I don't think the only there's only been one 12 and one power 5 champ that didn't get in. It was Ohio State. In 2018, and that was mostly because their loss was that really bad loss at perdue, whereas Oklahoma state lost one game by a field goal to a decent iOS 18. So but okay, but wait a minute now. I hear what you say. Let's remember, Cincinnati would be 13 and they have one at a top ten team on the road. And they have no losses. You would put Oklahoma if you were on the committee, you would put Oklahoma state over Cincinnati. Yeah, I would, because I think that that's a case where it's different to me if it's, you know, the possibility that I thought that I frankly feared was a two loss Alabama getting in over undefeated in sandy. I no longer think that's possible. There are only one spot apart. To me, that would be, by the way, Oklahoma might not be if they lose bad lum. They might not be a top 15 team at that point. They're ten now. Yeah, there's three big 12. And the other thing about Oklahoma state is the number three defense in the country. You know, at some point, that's even better than Cincinnati. He's like, at some point, I don't know, it's interesting because I feel like this game of bedlam for most fans for a lot of fans, maybe outside the big 12 will be their first time seeing Oklahoma state. And in fact, some of Gary barda's comments last night indicated that, you know, I mean, there are only number 7 that they still need to be convinced a little bit, especially about their offense. So but no, I think Oklahoma state is a pretty clear cut one. Oklahoma is a different story. And I don't know, it's hard, you know, it's hard to imagine because it feels like they've been living on borrowed time all season. How much are perception of them would change if they actually do? Beat Oklahoma beat Oklahoma state twice.
A highlight from NFL Week 12 Picks + College Football Rivalry Week Predictions - Thanksgiving Gambling Podcast
"Odds. You know you're gonna be wagering all weekend long so you don't have to listen to and Sally talk about how she made the cream spinach. FanDuel's got you covered. Mister pain, you got it into tank to go for his covered on cream spinach recipes? Is that what you just indicated there? Yeah, cream spinach. I mean, she's got winners, and you're gonna listen to and Sally if she can Dole all college basketball and NFL and college football NHL. KHL. She's got winners. You're gonna listen from start to finish. Yes, there's no doubt about that. No doubt about that. Sorry, continue on. No, no, I'm out of stuff. You're gonna fill the airways for the next two and a half hours as we break down 5 college games in 5 pro games. I'm going to tell you it's not going to be two and a half hours, as we sit here at 1130 p.m. eastern. Be probably asleep halfway through this thing. Well, that's fine. We can ramble on. I can offer up play by play against Aga UCLA. I mean, we can do a number of different unique things around these parts. By the way, you want to follow our listeners in on what that Thanksgiving promotion was. When do I have to share my favorite side dish? Was it this podcast? Is it social media? Is it Monday night? I get confused with all the money that you want to give away. Yes, so lots of giveaways going on. It is the Thanksgiving time of year. Going to give the loyal listeners some cash. I just don't even know what your favorite Thanksgiving dishes, so you'll have to inform me, but we will let the winner know on the Friday pregame show, which I believe is the third. Our next one will let them know their hundred bucks cash. So go to the pinned video on YouTube in the comments put in Todd's favorite Thanksgiving dish hundred bucks cash to the winner. Also, Monday. I believe that will be the 29th we will have a 400th episode Twitter contest $400 cash skill based Monday night game Washington and Seattle follow the rules. You'll see a pin tweet there go up Monday morning. And then, of course, the Apple podcast giveaway three winners, hundred bucks cash each, put in your 5 star reviews, leave a nice little comment. We'll run an automator and pick three winners. Those will be announced on the Monday podcast as well. So lots of cash going out here over 800 bucks, I believe if my monkey math serves me there. No. Yes, yes, 800 bucks. There we go. I'm glad you got your pen and paper, your abacus and your couch. No pending paper. That was half out of it just off the cuff. There you go. Well, I applaud the efforts and one of these days, maybe we get to episode 800. I'll get to actually see this automator that produces all these winners for our loyal listeners, but I want to tell you I think I'm retiring before that happens. But throw that out there. Well, that's apparently gonna be the headliner coming out of this podcast. It's gonna make a national news after all the publications that have talked about bet the board spanning the globe, headlines gonna be pain insider, says he will not make it to episode 800. No, no, I don't think I have another 7 years in me, but we'll see how things go. All right. Let's get into the games and let's get things started. We'll go in rotation order. We'll start with college. We'll get into the pros. Like we said, 5, college games, 5 pro games, all of them as always will be timestamped. So if you're in the car, you're on a plane, listen in fits and spurts to be able to get all the information. So egg bowl, starkville, Mississippi. It's Mississippi state a one and a half point favorite at FanDuel sportsbook. Total in this game is 62 and a half pain, 119th edition of this rivalry. It's the first time since 2015. These two programs will play the game where both are actually ranked. Good chance that the game could be played in cold wet conditions. You have to love the fact that lane kiffin says people shouldn't hate each other based on schools they attended. I don't think Mississippi state or old miss fans tended to agree with lane, but it adds a little log on the fire for what should be a great football game. And two quarterbacks that really deserve top billing. I mean, Matt carrel has been one of the headliners throughout the year in the SEC. Falling off as far as his production is concerned, may or may not end up making it all the way out to New York City as a member of the elusive Heisman club, probably won't win it. But on the other side, Will Rogers has really caught the SEC by storm. And a guy that's caught your eye, I know you've been high on him and think, you know, he's gonna have a chance to play on Sundays when his time in starkville completely over. Yeah, listen, I think this game is just one of the more fun rivalries. And now that all miss and mississip are trending in the right direction on the field and you also have two walking talking sound bites off the field this game is kind of electric. I have an NFL guy. But this is probably the game I'm looking most forward to on Thanksgiving. On paper, both offense has appeared to have edges in the passing game. And you mentioned Will Rogers that is my guy. I think he is extremely underrated. I think he'll have success throwing short and intermediate here against old miss. And we know what that rebel's defense is. It's usually a drop coverage. It's helped them do a great job limiting the explosive pass. That's why their EPA pass defense looks substantially better than the down to down past defense, but if you do look at that metric, I'll miss outside the top 75 in passing success rate allowed. So they can be had underneath in their zones. Will Rogers if you look at those areas of him throwing the ball short and intermediate windows, one 12 passer rating 22 touchdowns just a 2% turnover worthy throw rate. I would expect Will Rogers to have a solid day there looking at this matchup and that's where he's best. That's where the offense is best. And that's role misses weakest. Matt corral should also have success throwing all his horses out wide have returned Drummond Sanders mingo are back. That's obviously vital when your team strength is offense and quarterback having weapons like that. Clearly changed the entire dynamic. What's interesting is Mississippi has a corner and Martin Emerson that's gotten some first round draft buzz. But if you look at Mississippi state's secondary overall, they haven't been great outside the top 60 in both passing success rate and EPA per pass allowed as you alluded to at the top, keep an eye on the weather. There's potential for this to be a little bit wet. I think in general, we're higher on Mississippi state than most we make them two and a half here. And saying that it's probably because old misses sample has had multiple games where drum and Sanders and mango have all been out. The model shows value to the under, despite the passing advantages that I just outlined, I am not sure I will end up on it. But Thanksgiving week and this will be something that we reference multiple times. That is the week where the public is out in full force. That is the week where the public has their say in the market. So if this got to 65, which is a key number. And there is some weather. I would probably have to dabble under my understanding though is Mississippi state will be the sharp side in this game.
A highlight from Hour 4: Alex McDaniel
"So we look forward to that. We've had quite a program starting it off with Charles Barkley, Joe testator, so many other great guests. And we are really excited about our next guest. Alex mcdaniel is the hoping to get finished with the show, but losing my voice, but if I do Alex, I think, could take over Alex's Alex McDaniels, the managing editor for the win part of the USA Today. Sports Network. And she is well versed on the south's greatest rivalries from the iron bowl to the Alex. First of all, I don't know why I was taken this long to get you on the program. I feel like I know you very well from following you on Twitter and a couple of other things that I know. But it is great to have you here. Thank you so much for having me on. It's an honor. Well, we are delighted. And here we are, the rivalry games beginning. And there's so many I want to ask you about including the iron ball. I know it's a game that you have opined on for many, many years, but let's start with the egg bowl and some work you've done on that. And what this game how you see this kid, not the game, but the game outside of the game, which is in most people's estimation, one of the nastiest rivalries in college football. If not the nastiest. Yeah, you know, it's interesting because the people who argue that, obviously, make the argument that come on, they're not competing for national titles regularly or fantasy future championships. But since the very first time almost in state played each other in 1901. The game was delayed for 40 minutes because they wouldn't stop arguing over a player being an eligible. I mean, this has been the same story for more than a hundred years at this point. And so, you know, as every generation comes through, you get these new these new ideas that, oh, it's more toxic now than ever. Well, it's certainly louder now than ever. We have social media. We have a million ways to communicate. But it has been nasty from the start. And even the fact that they have an adult trophy to begin with, that started after the game in 1926, when olmos won, their fans charged to field and tried to take down the goalposts, someone started a fire. There were chairs being broken out for people said. And so both schools said, how are we going to stop the fighting? They're like, I know, give them a trophy. This will encourage good sportsmanship every year. And you see how well that works out? Alex and I mean, the events of the last couple of years, especially I think it was two years ago with a lives or more. I mean, you literally can't make this stuff up. It seemed like that may have been the all time or although I'm sure I'm missing something. I think in recent years it certainly was. You know, DK Metcalf did the same thing two years before that. And it made a fuss, but it wasn't a big deal. And what made Elijah such a big deal is how that sort of set in motion, major changes in the coaching carousel in general. But definitely getting Tiffany leach in when they did just the way that that game ended. It was kind of a mess. It really changed the trajectory for both teams. But, you know, like, I was thinking today about, I don't know if you remember this, but in the 1997 I go, there was a huge fight on the field beforehand. I think they were just doing warm up. And do mcalister recruit. And these are no, I mean, it's hilarious. These are things that we forget about over the years just because it does seem like it gets a little crazy or a little crazier. And I remember, you know, in the 2018 game especially. And this kind of fits into an argument I make a lot, which is it's better. The game is always better when both teams are doing well. However, you don't necessarily know how the outcome is going to be if one is very bad. And so in 2018, you know, you had state they were comfortably going to a bowl. You had almost serving their last year of the postseason band. So they were mad. And that was the year that the both teams got on screen like conduct penalties. Matt carral throughout this helmet was 5 years in the field. There's just there's so much not even in the game itself, but there's just so much involved in this rivalry. And I think, you know, the question I get most often is, okay, but again, it's not the iron bowl rivalry. How can you say that this is meaner or more intense? And it's a two part answer for me. I do think that because they're not playing for national titles and SEC championships. But certainly as an element to it. But mississip is a small state. So statement south, about 3 million people with two major SEC programs. You know, I grew up in Arkansas. I didn't grow up in this city. I just went to school there. And I can't imagine the state of Arkansas having another SEC team. It would just suck all the air out of the room to have these two schools fighting each other.
A highlight from Hour 3: Tom Luginbill
"The pride passion that pageantry of college football lives here. This is the Paul Fein bomb show hour three podcast. Luger bill of longtime red Jordan. Haven't seen you in a while. I know, right? I don't think we've ever been this close to each other in two years. What's going on here, man? It's good. A lot of people in a while. I know it. I know it's not heading out to the Oregon Oregon state game, but I do want to get your thoughts just let's start with the playoff and especially this weekend. The biggest game of the country is Ohio State and Michigan. You've seen both of them throughout the season. Friends of mine are trying to make a case for Michigan. I'm not buying. What about you? I do think it's the best iteration that Jim Harbaugh has put forth to have a chance as far as the team that he has. But still, until they prove otherwise. Michigan has got to prove that they can play well in highly anticipated games versus top ten ranked opponents where the expectation is to win to get over the hump for whatever reason. And I don't know if it's a Jim Harbaugh thing, I don't know if it's a staff thing. If it's a locker room thing, but whatever they're in a game like that, they fail to meet the standard. So you have that that they've got to prove. And on top of it, athletically, I just don't know if it's a good matchup for Michigan. I love what Michigan brings on defense. They can rush to pass or they can be very, very disruptive. But those skill guys at Ohio State and that team, I saw him on ABC prime at night against Indiana and Indiana was not playing very well, but it didn't matter when you just looked at Ohio State. They were different. You're sitting there in pregame warmup, and you're looking at that team and you're looking at the other team you're saying, this is going to be a no contest. They've moved up to number two, and I know everybody's trying to do compare and contrast. We saw them against Alabama at the end of this season. What about how would you compare Ohio State in Georgia? Very similarly in terms of how they have continued to improve and progress throughout the year. And I think personally, I think that the college football playoff committee values week to week improvement. You know, if you look back at that 2014 season, you had Ohio State losing weak two at home to a very average Virginia tech team. That team ended up winning the national championship in Ohio State as they continue to improve committee got past that, looked at the team. Are they this team now? And I think that Ohio State has done as good a job of that since the organ loss, as anybody in college football, athletically, it's probably the best matchup that I think we've maybe had in the college football playoff era outside of maybe that rose bowl between Oklahoma and Georgia as far as the caliber of player, what they bring to the table, how each one creates a challenge for the other. And you know, I think the thing that's neat about all this Paul is, we have playoff games this weekend. I mean, Ohio State in Michigan, that's a playoff caliber game. Alabama and Georgia when we get there, that's going to be a playoff caliber game. So we're having those types of games before we even get to the playoff, which is what everybody loves college football wants to see in November. About Georgia, and they've had their head two weeks off. I don't know. Does that affect your momentum? Or do you just store whatever you need for the Alabama game? Cool, I would like to think that Kirby smart and his staff and his players are looking to get better with each play with each series, which he snap, regardless of who the opponent is. But you and I were talking off air and you've got Georges or Charleston southern and a reeling Georgia Tech team and you're looking over here at Aldrin's getting in a dogfight Alabama's getting a dogfight with Arkansas. And now has to go and play on one of the most difficult places in college football. So one might be slightly more battle tested coming into the SEC championship game. But I think Georgia will rise to the occasion. They have all year long now. We can make the argument that whose challenge them. Who has put a football team on the field that could say, hey, Georgia. You have to score 35 points to win the game. Not just to get ahead. You're gonna have to score at least 35 to win the game and maybe Alabama's offense. Yeah, they were challenged by Florida for one and a half quarters by Tennessee for a quarter and that's about it. That's about it. And I think we would all agree that Alabama's got superior personnel at least right now to both of those teams. And listen, Alabama's got some flaws. This isn't the team that we've become accustomed to seeing in the offensive line. They haven't been able to run the football to the level of which we've always come to expect. But they've got a quarterback that kind of becomes the ultimate neutralizer, right? When things aren't perfect, he can pull a rabbit out of a hat. They have realized where their strengths are. And have utilized those strengths. And that is to throw it, run it when we can, but our skill on the perimeter are quarterback gives us a chance each and every week. And you're gonna have to score points against Alabama to beat them. How do we know how good stetson better does? I would answer that question by saying, I know he's vastly improved, because if you go back to the first what, four to 5 weeks of the season a year ago. That's not the same steps in Ben. We've seen this year. He was lost, he looked like he had no control of the offense to look like he didn't belong. It looked like a walk on. Now, I feel like he looks like a guy. I'm not saying that you're gonna win because of him. But you're not winning in spite of him either. I think he would be what I would call a serviceable functional player at the position that knows what he is and what he isn't. But again, what happens if somehow they get into a type of game? And I'm not saying that it's capable of they're capable of getting this type of game because of how outstanding they are on defense. But if they got into a track meet, and it turned into a tit for tat affair, could they say, okay, that's got to go out and fill the ball 45 times a game and win it for us. I don't think anybody knows the answer to that question. Talking to Tom lugan bell, there's a lot happening this weekend. We mentioned Ohio State, the iron bow auburn is a team that is spiraling what happened to them.
A highlight from Hour 2: Joe Tessitore
"The pride passion and pageantry of college football lives here. This is the qualifying bomb show hour two podcast. We have already had a conversation with Charles Barkley, a 30 minutes ago. And now Joe tessitore, who is on the call tomorrow night for the egg bowl on Thanksgiving. Joe, great to welcome you back to the program. Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family and really cool to have you with us on this. Thanksgiving eve. How Happy Thanksgiving to you and Linda and to all the fine Bond viewers out there very excited to spend the Thanksgiving deep into the SEC. What I think is just one of the better egg bulls we've had in some years. It reminds me a little bit of some of the juice we had going into that 2014 game Paul. Yeah, Joe I mean, I know we talk about the iron bow and you were the co executive producer of roll tide Rory ego, so I don't need to educate you on that robbery, but this rivalry in recent years has really eclipsed the iron bowl for unbelievable drama. You know, I think in listen, Alabama auburn has bigger branding. Ohio State, Michigan has bigger branding. But I'm not sure there's a rivalry that has more pure vitriol and hatred and means more in terms of the identity within the state for the fan base and especially and you bring it up in terms of the recent history. Heck, we got a starting star quarterback at a Heisman contender in this game and a guy who's going to be a first round NFL Draft pick. Who all you have to do is go back to his freshman year. Remember what happened at the end of the third quarter, right? Matt corral throws the touchdown pass, helmets are ripped off. Punches are thrown. We got four players ejected. And to really understand the foundation of his career and to think about where it's gone. It's a fascinating story. We've got the chance our crew did to spend some time with him yesterday. And he said, I'm very careful as to what I say this week. Very, very careful. But he's the guy who's obviously matured a lot. He's very disciplined. He's an incredible leader. He's not so happy with how they play down the stretch of last week's game and what was a sandwich game. And the lack of offensive production compared to what we typically have seen on home this this year. So I think they're going to be firing off tomorrow. But on the other side, I think, Will Rogers does not get enough attention nationally Paul. I think this is a guy who's having his final year as anybody has had. And he's getting better each and every month. I think we're in store for an incredible prime time rivalry game on Thanksgiving night. Talking to Joe testator and Joe, the two coaches are interesting and it's been a theme really for a week and a half. We had laying on a last week and he likes to talk about how he does not hate the other guy. And I mean, I know Nick Saban follows the same blueprint, but in the egg bowl, you're supposed to hate the other guy. Yeah, I mean, the origin of why we have the egg ball is the fact that fans came out of the stands and we're picking up wooden chairs and hitting rival fans over the head with them. So that's well understood when it comes to this game. It's wild understood by the players too if you see the actions of recent years, not just what I just described in 2018. But I want to Elijah more and did a few years ago and time and time again on both sides of this. But lane and Mike, we talked to you yesterday our production crew. And they're staying in the course with what they've been saying. You know, lanes out there saying, hey, it's football. You really shouldn't just hate somebody else because of a certain school they went to or a certain school, they root for. Paul, that's how we make money, Paul. That is how we have an SUC network, isn't it? Because in this league, the fans do feel that way. And I think we're going to have a really rowdy atmosphere tomorrow night. A safe atmosphere, but around the atmosphere. Let's get to the field because you're so good at looking at film and I know you and Greg mix it up quite well together during the broadcast, but when you mention almost lately, they have been very banged up, but where are they physically right now for this game? I think they're better and I think, you know, they're going to have the receivers back at full strength. I think when you look at this game, you really look at the Mississippi state side of things because what you see is a team that as the year goes on, almost in year two of the likely offense we talked about at all preseason we saw early on, but now you really see it as the season goes on. The receivers comfort with Will Rogers of everybody being on the same page of understanding how the error rate system is supposed to work of it being understood with that silent communication of where to find the open space of how to run the routes. And you see, you see Rogers not just checking down to the running backs, not just taking what's available to them. But now you're getting the intermediate and you're getting the deeper shots taken and completed. And then they're running the ball a little better. You say, well, they don't even run the ball. Yeah, actually they do. And they're running it and this is something I think Greg mcelroy is going to show tomorrow as to how much more significant it is with some of their run concepts. And even DJ durk in the defense coordinator for ulmus said to me yesterday. He said it used to be you watch Mike's offense since every so often they'd throw in a run play just because he's bored. That's not the case anymore. So you're getting a more balanced offense. You're getting an offense that's playing at all three levels of the passing game. You're getting an offset has a quarterback who has a lot of confidence with his receivers. And then defensively, they're solid. They're really, really solid at all three levels. So they're a team that yes has had some ups and downs. Yes, it's taken losses, but is very, very capable of earning a win on their home field against the top ten team. Now, on the other side with all this, I really think last week you want to put a line through it Paul. I think you don't want to look at that Vanderbilt game and put too much into it. I think it's sandwich in between Texas a and M in this big rivalry game. What's on the line is so significant. It's not a given that it's the sugar bowl, but it's likely that it's the sugar bowl. And no matter you got to think you're playing for a new year 6, you got to think you're playing for something very special. You're playing for the first ten win seat regular season in program history. I expect old myths to be playing very hungry and very focused. Talking to Joe testator before we wrap up here about the egg bowl. Going back to where we began Joe because for a couple of years, everybody got into the act about the antics that go on. And then it's still continued. And I know that we're not hearing as much about it this week because it does seem like a calmer or especially because of their coaches, but is that a message that these coaches even bother to send now or do they just assume that the players know the mistakes of the past have been very costly? I wouldn't think so. You know, obviously they don't want penalties. They don't want stuff that affects a game. They don't want key players ejected from the game. But I think it's very hard to rain things in right before kick-off here. I think this is one of those where they're going to be ready to bust through the doors of each locker room to hit the field. Joe,
A highlight from Hour 1: Charles Barkley
"The pride passion and pageantry of college football lives here. This is the qualifying bomb show hour two podcast. Very pleasant good afternoon. Welcome to our program in an early happy Thanksgiving to all of you. We hope you're safe out there. It is a little bit crazy. So be careful. And thanks for being a part of our day before celebration. Let's get right to the headlines and we saw it last night. Another reveal of the college football playoff rankings pretty much as expected Georgia, Ohio State jumping, Alabama. Cincinnati ending up in the top four. Now will they stay? That is certainly the question of the day. We have Michigan and Ohio State playing this weekend. Michigan clearly would move up where were the Ohio State ranks. So that's the big story of the day and we will certainly spend time how much I don't know on that. Thanksgiving trash talk. Back in the iron ball, it all coming from a player who will not be in the iron Balboa Knicks. Making the accusation earlier in the week that the ref's favor Alabama. Now of course he did not offer any evidence. He did not deal in any degree of specificity. And the fact that the game two years ago, Jordan here ended with a controversial call against Nick Saban, auburn has beaten Sabin twice. So I have no earthly idea where bone X is coming from, but it is the first trash talk we've had in the iron bow and sometime. Even though he was directed at the zebras Will Rogers is ready for action in the egg ball. That is a little more than 24 hours away in starkville. We'll talk a lot about that later in the program. How about starting off the holiday edition with Charles Barkley? We usually run into Charles down on the plains. We weren't sure we would see him Friday, so we lasted him in today and that is you better call the call the neighbors and friends. Barclay does not meant words on the week of the iron bull Joe test will be there for the egg bowl and he is there. Tom lugan bell will be here. Alex mcdaniel. On egg bowl history. And Karen wilcher on Turkey talk. We did this a couple of years ago and we're going to do it again. Getting you ready. In case you have not begun your feast, we will help you maybe with some last minute ideas. I know that we are the only show in America doing that today. But we may not be the only show, but we will do it better than the rest. But it is the only show taking your phone calls at 8 5 5 two four two 7 two 8 5 and we all thank you for being a part of it. We begin with Josh. Excuse me, John, in Louisville. Hi, John. Hey, Paul. It sounds like you're losing your voice. It started the other day and I was on this morning with greeny and it completely went out on me. I'm hoping it returns, but if not, please, you and everyone else fill up the fill up the void and do all the talking today. I'll just kick back and listen. I can shout as loud as Jim. But first, your tribute to cecl hurt was quite beautiful. And my hats off to your team behind the curtain for getting those guest on in real time to talk about them in his life. Very nice. Our crew here last night, headed by Jamar Jordan. I did exemplary work. And we were just barking out a couple of names of people that we thought were close to see. So we ended up with really to extraordinary guests who I thought. Yeah, you hit home runs with those two. And I want to talk about some coaching extensions. But first, on the CFP, I was kind of surprised that Cincinnati was moved up to number four because there's a possibility they'll have to leapfrog teams ahead of them later on. Obviously, we can now feel comfortable and having Michigan ahead that Michigan state and obviously how state ahead of Oregon. But it just seems to me if things play out. You'll have Georgia, Alabama. The big 12 winner. And a Big Ten winner. So I was a little surprised that since then, I would say at high up, it kind of puts them in a corner. Yeah, I think on one level, John may maybe would give them credit for not playing politics, but if you're being pragmatic, you probably would have put them behind Michigan and that would force either Michigan up or out, either way, but the nightmare scenario for Cincinnati is his Oklahoma state dominating the next two weeks and Alabama beating Georgia. Well, here's a nightmare scenario. I suppose the big 12 beats up each other. You possibly could have I don't know, you could have either Notre-Dame and or Cincinnati both up there. So things can happen in the next ten days. Anyways, I want to talk to you about the coaching extensions. I just don't get it. Well, first of all, the Florida de waking up and deciding to fire the coach was quite quite bizarre. I mean, did a booster wake him up and say, I've got 12 million in your bank account. It's just a bizarre statement I thought. To go along with the whole season down at Florida. He really not said anything. And. I take with a grain of salt, everything that everybody says and to me, it just seemed like the athletic director down there was really had no choice. He knew he had to get rid of Mullen or otherwise he became an endangered and endangered species well I agree, but seeing James Franklin, who had a four and 5 record last year, we'll probably be around 7 and 5 or 7 and 6 this year get an extension in having losing records in the Big Ten in the last two years. Now Mel Tucker was I think 5 and 6 at Colorado, this first job, four and 6 last year at Michigan state and he more than got blown out against a House state. He was unprepared and motivated his team. 49 points at 500 yards in the first half. I just don't get why they're giving away hundreds of millions of dollars. It just blows me. Well, John, thank you, because athletic directors are not they're playing with somebody else's money and it's all about now. It's all about the headlines. It's all about the press conferences, and there's just no way to run a business, but are these really businesses? Thank you for the call. Appreciate it. Suzanne is in Georgia. Hello Suzanne. Good afternoon to you. Good afternoon to you. My question is, there have been. Nervous confirmed rumors of this section on the Alabama team. Is that due to the $2 million and endorsements for rice young assailants and thousands of television and news?
A highlight from Terrell Davis on Going From Backup to Hall of Famer, Wild CFB Coaching Buyouts, Plus Russillo Travel Stories
"Down. It's real Davis. Broncos, Hall of Fame, running back, his star, him almost quitting the crazy story about one of his former head coaches. And I'm going to do a little travel, a little travel pod for you, Chicago, New York, back to LA, little music review as well and life advice. Oh, let's not forget this. There was a headline this week in college football that should make all of us gas, and it didn't. Hey everybody, get you ready hopefully for a commute or whatever or maybe you're home, so we're not going to be on on Friday, so please enjoy Thanksgiving. And those of you who get to see everybody, enjoy. You know what I mean? You get older you start to appreciate it a little bit more. All right, I have some travel notes for you. And then I have a headline from college football that I have to get to that just the headline, it's a huge deal, and people should be freaking out about it, but nobody's going to freak out about it. But I just kind of want to start. I was on the road, you may have noticed on some of the breakout videos there. I'd stopped in Chicago to see Friends, and then I was in New York for almost a week. I just wanted to get back to doing some of the stuff that I used to do backgrounds and kinetic back before everything in the world changed a year and a half ago or so. So I just wanted to do some stuff that I had done I hadn't been to live music and forever. So I met up with a couple of college roommates. Did Chicago 48 hours went to see widespread panic for the first time in 20 years. It was a good show. It was a good show. It was kind of funny though, because you're looking around and you're like, man, this crowd is a little older, and you're like, yeah, we are older. A lot of weed, a lot of weed, not for your boy. Not surprising, but just a fun fun show to see them live again, kind of get back. I've never seen them in 1993 in a church once. And then I also saw some of the ski resort. So I always kind of like them. So Chicago wasn't even 48 hours. It was great though, because like middle middle of the show, me and my two college roommates looking at each other were going, hey, Dublin's after this, captain late night, like let's do it. You know, because I didn't have to work the next day. All I had to do was fly to New York and I'm thinking, yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. And then one guy left before the show was over. I say, my daughter gets up between four and 7 a.m. and then me and my body were like, all right, see a loser, and then I think 30 minutes later, we were like, hey, we get out of here to beat the traffic now. I kind of didn't want to leave and they closed we can't find my way home by blind faith so I missed it, so I'm not going to be thrilled
A highlight from Gonzaga blasts UCLA. Next up: Duke on Friday. Plus: picks, previews for all Thanksgiving weekend (College Basketball 11/24)
"Sometimes discuss camo fighting, dodo birds and leaky black man Orlando is here with me. He's at home in Connecticut. I'm in New York City. It is approaching one a.m. on the east coast I've been in studio all night. That's why I'm wearing a tie and all that nonsense. The 43rd meeting. In college basketball history between teams ranked first and second, the AP poll, it happened late Tuesday in Las Vegas. It was a blowout. Final score number one Gonzaga 83. Number two UCLA 63, just like Gonzaga, Texas. This was never close. The zags led 29 to 8, ten minutes after tip off, they started 13 of 18 from the field in Ralph is shooting 56% for the game. Dead leg. Good to see you. Make sense of what we just watched, which was the latest Gonzaga destruction of equality, power 5 basketball program. It's not that hard to make sense of this. We'll get to the duke's
A highlight from Hour 4: Rest Easy, Cecil Hurt
"The pride passion then pageantry of college football lives here. This is the Paul Fein bomb show our four podcast. And we welcome you back to the final hour with some incredibly sad news to share with the audience a friend of ours, not only a friend, but an institution has passed away. Cecil hurt. Who forever has been the sports editor of the Tuscaloosa news and their lead sports columnist and an absolute institution and arguably one of the most influential people to ever write sports or talk in that state or in the SEC has passed away. He died earlier at UAB hospital. He was 62 years old. He fell ill several weeks ago. And just never recovered. One of his closest friends, and someone who visited him recently is showing us now Aaron settles who works so many years with Cecil at the Tesla news and now with the athletic inner and I. Apologize to asking you to join us within moments of learning this news, but I can't think of anyone more appropriate to talk about Cecil than you and good afternoon. Thank you for doing so Paul. And thank you for recognizing cecl. It means a lot to all of us who love them. Here, Aaron, the reality is, and you know it better than anyone that he has been struggling for a long time. It was kept from the public, but not from those who knew him best and recently it became likely if not inevitable that we would be having this conversation. But I just want to talk to you about what he meant to so many people those of us who considered him among our close friends. And those who probably never met him, but knew him through his column and through mediums like this in so many others. If you were fortunate to share some time with cecl, you came away enriched from knowledge, because always joked with them, always told them when you were wasting your life writing about sports. You have so much more to give, you're just so smart. You could do anything that you wanted to, but what you wanted to do was write, and he was so good at it all and he loved to read. It was voracious reader. You'd often find him in a press box with a book with an iPad with a book on it. And he the moments that I treasure with him is the moments I got to spend with him privately and how it wasn't about sport. We would talk our favorite albums. He would tell me what it was like when The Rolling Stones came to Coleman coliseum. I'd ask him about his favorite record. And then just life. I mean, this is a man that traveled the world. It took a year off from his career and literally traveled around the world because he could. He was just so much more than a sports writer, but that's how we all got to know him through his he was an English major. He was so good with the written word. That's why we all got to know him, but he was so much more than that. Aaron, I think the first time I met him, he was carrying a copy of a catcher in the rye. He was reading it during halftime of a basketball game. But he was so unique, but I think those are quirky things that friends laugh at, but what no one could laugh at was his brilliance as a writer as a reporter as an opinionist, but also someone who I think. Was the most influential voice of the last 30 years in relation to the university of Alabama because it wasn't that he had the largest audience. But those who mattered the most paid attention to what he had to say. Without question, Paul, various suit and always tell people that was like what is it like working with sea salt and forget it was 2006 and I believe it was after the either after the Tennessee game that year in 2006 with Mike schiller, it might have been after the operating game. Cecil was very measured. He wasn't even though the Internet was coming about and everyone was sort of competing for these clicks with what we call now hot takes. Cecl is always very measured. And he had some line that he turned within one of his columns after the game. And I knew it's over for maxula. And everyone that read that column knew that it was over from very shortly thereafter, it was over for my Shula. He was, he very much understood how much power there were in words. And no matter how that word frame from bolt hair network came from the Andy Griffith show. He very much understood how to connect those words and to make it make sense that he was a man with incredible wit, it's funny you always you told the story about him finding him in a press box reading the book. Chris Stewart who does album a basketball play by play also does baseball told me the story once that when Cecil would cover out the baseball games, he would sit in the radio section of the press box.
A highlight from Hour 3: Pete Thamel
"The pride passion then pageantry of college football lives here. This is the Paul Fein bomb show hour three podcast. James Franklin the hottest coach early in the carousel. That's before his entire season imploded has just agreed to a ten year contract extension at Penn State. Hey, Jimbo Fisher, like contract, 80 million guaranteed, and his name is off so Cincinnati fans have to feel good. Luke fickle was clearly going to be the favorite to take his place if Franklin ended up leaving. And lost in all the shuffle were two hours away from the CFP selection show. And we don't think it's even come up other than in the very beginning of the show. Let's check out Troy, who is up next to hello, Troy. Hello, Paul, how are you doing? We're doing great. Thank you for calling. Hey, listen, I just wanted to share some thoughts of mine about Dan moa. And I see some reflection what's happened in the Florida program. So what happened to the Georgia program in the early to mid 80s, if you remember the jam that Jan do you cook? Yeah. Thank you. Yeah, Jan Kemp. Yeah. Jan Kemp. She nearly recognized the program, you're right. That's right. For about ten years, Georgia was they weren't destroyed from the football program. But they were disadvantaged significantly by that event and it was all an academic versus sports event because the dogs were so successful and the requirements for the home to involve players to enter the program of a university like Georgia less than what maybe somebody normally would and I don't know the details to reconcile those, but I shall van Mullen do a great job against Alabama in the SEC championship game. This year, also, and he's done such a incredible job at Mississippi state for years and it was but you know something we no longer live. We no longer live in a cumulative world where you do it's just all about where you are at that moment in time. And you know, I don't think we know all exactly what happened, but I would argue that the clock has been ticking for Dan Mullen for longer than anybody down there has reported. There are a couple of things that kept popping up. I think by and large, most of us just looked right past it, and then when things went haywire on the field, all of those things coalesce, much like arrows, you're on. They're very similar stories in some respects. They both started disintegrating about a year and a half ago. I know people like to think all we do in the media is look under rocks and focus on the negative. But we tend in football parlance to let some of that stuff stew or marinate and when things start to spiral out of control, they come bubbling back to the top. Hey, thank you for the call. Appreciate it. Let's check out Mike, who is in Kentucky. How am I? Hey, I don't, okay, Mike. All right. Let's talk about the Georgia bulldogs here for a man. All right, I don't want to jump a week into championship weekend. A little fun fact Paul. Georgia hasn't played a quarterback that ranks in the top 20 nationally and yards efficiency, nothing all year. Hey, Mike. Can I ask you one question, Mike? One question. Sure. Go ahead. Because I'm just doing this from a historical standpoint. You're in Alabama fan correct. Correct. And on the Tuesday of the iron bow, you're asking me a Georgia question. Yeah, I'm not really concerned with Georgia this year. I probably know I won't be able to get into your show next week. But I keep hearing people all year long about being the game that people talked about 365 days a year. Remember that the good old days when that was a line that we uttered in Alabama yeah, I remember that Paul. Why are you trying to change the subject? Well, because I really don't want to talk about the Georgia game this week. I want to talk about the games that are being played Saturday. That's how I feel. And we will be in auburn on Friday, talking to many of the key figures, part of the storied iron bowl. I don't call me crazy, but I'm just not, I know that game is looming, but I think it's disrespectful to this weekend's game, just to start postulating or pontificating about that. Let's continue with more phone calls here and Cody is in Kentucky, a hello Cody. Hey, Paul, how you doing? We are doing great. I always told myself, I would never ask you that because every person asked you that when they call in, but well Cody, one day, I may tell Cody, one day, I may actually tell the truth. Not have a knife for Mark. I just tell you how you really feel. I want to talk about we got coaching changes in your Dan Mullen and ACC jobs open. And you mentioned earlier, we don't live in a cumulative world anymore as far as coaching. And as a coach, myself, you know, high school level in one year college, that kind of bothers me, you know, because those advantages, history repeats itself for when are we going to repeat itself? I mean, you look at guys like James Franklin at one time was a name out there, but you know, now you signed the extension. But even people like Harbaugh, you know, I mean that you've never been to a state, but he's had success and you know, even the great Joe paw. I mean, Joe piles of this little best coach of all time, you know, you can debate it. He might be the best, you know, who you ask, but even he had about a ten or 11 seasons where he won less than 8 games. And I mean, there's only one goat. There's only one Nick Saban. There's only one guy that, you know, maybe a handful that if you could make a video game and build your coach in Darcy, that's what you choose, and everybody else, you got to understand. You know, you gotta take success where you get it. What do you think about that? No, I think you're right and listen. Thank you very much for the call, Cody, and you'd be well. I feel I feel some responsibility, not me personally, but what I do, because we tend to fixate on things and but ultimately it's not my decision. It's athletic directors decision and the same guy who we all said four weeks ago wouldn't fire Dan Mullen fired him on Sunday. Why? Because was it self preservation? And that's why I really fired the two coaches a couple of weeks ago. It rubbed me the wrong way. It just seemed like he was doing what all coaches do, throw your Friends overboard to save yourself. And you have to ask the question, is that what Scott Strickland did on Sunday? Let's check in with Jim, who is up next. Well, you just said, you reap what you sell. So true. We mentioned goat and now you got to go. Yeah, well, you're right. Jim, I have to tell you. I was in Birmingham yesterday. I was speaking to a group and somebody asked me about you. Tell me about the ideas. Yeah, I was a question after the speech and the guy asked me something about do I know you do it? What do I think of you? And I said, hey, page 54. What else do you have? Put it out there. Negative are positive. Well, I said, page 54. I described you as the you are clever. You are a politician. You don't need to be one you are one. Oh, here's the thing I called about, though, I didn't talk about it. Oh, you missed Jeff. You missed Jeff. I can tell, you really miss him. Well, I missed Jeff on a week like this when we have his. I can tell when you've got when the guy call about 20 minutes ago, and you said, let's go to Jeff. Here's Jim and we're excited now. This is Jack, not Jill. Jim, you knew listen. You know me. I mean, I want I do know you. I like that. Well, Charlie, you shouldn't want colors like that. I mean, he brings a house. See, the reason why Jim is, I'm not really all that talented. I'm a button person. I don't do anything.