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Making the Leap Out of Expertville and into Visionary Town with Michael Port
"Michael say was up to fire nation and sheer something interesting about yourself that most people don't know okay. I'll share something that I don't know if they're gonna find interesting but most people don't know when i was in college I picked up a nickname that i found a little bit embarrassing because the very first magazine that i was in was called sassy magazine so so my friends started calling the sassy unfortunately stuck and Hopefully it won't come back now that i've shared it on your show. Oh yeah don't count on. That was a barrister. Those things where. I hung out with you multiple times in person and i've had you on the show multiple times we we've been in virtual environments together as well never known this so just know that. I'm putting this on my back pockets to utilize oil when it makes sense and it will all be fun and we'll all have some joy with there but that is being a great to know about michael porter and fire nation as i promised. We're talking about a great topic today. That's making the leap out of expert. Ville an into visionary town so as a dive in michael. Because we don't have you for very long you've got a lot of things going on. You have so much to share in the time that we do have together so let's talk about thought leadership. What is the formula. First success within that word thought leadership. Yeah it's making the leap out of expert phil and into visionary town because the streets are paved with experts. There are experts everywhere. You wanna learn how to knit. You can go on youtube. And there are thousands of experts. Who will tell you how to knit. You wanna learn how to do. Seo you can go online and find blogs blogs podcasts about how do seo. so if you're an expert it's likely that your expertise has been commoditised which means it is reducing in value side increasing in value when something becomes commoditised it. The value lowers so experts. Share best practices experts share tips tricks hacks than other things that are certainly helpful but thought leaders are visionaries. Thought leaders share new approaches that challenge conventional wisdom and change the way people see the world so for example. Let's say you want to be a speaker and and you want to get on the keynote stage if you're delivering how to speeches. It's unlikely you're going to get on the keynote stage And if you do you're probably not going to be paid a lot. Because the experts are generally relegated to the breakout sessions. Now there's nothing wrong with breakout sessions and in fact if your service provider and you want to book business delivering how to expert based sessions in breakouts can be very helpful for booking business but if you want to change the way people see the world if you want the high paid keynote spots if you want to write books if you want to develop a community develop a following of people who resonate with your ideas not just your tips then you want to start to look at moving into visionary town rather than stay put an expert phil which is really overcrowded.
Pause and Prioritize with Purpose with Andrea Goeglein
"Guest today is dr andrea gig. Line she altered the truth of her age and got a job at a wall street brokerage firm at age fourteen and by twenty four. She opened her first operating business. A haagen dazs ice cream store in reno nevada many businesses and a phd in organizational psychology. Later she felt she had experienced enough stress and anxiety to be an expert. Today she is a success. Catalyst and is known as dr success. Andrea is founder. chur raider an author of the don't die self-development collection of books. Her latest book is don't die waiting to be brave as an expert in applied positive psychology. She is your success. Sharp up guiding you as you climb the mountain of success welcome andrea. I'm delighted to have you sir. Thank you so much as a pleasure to be here so as you know this. Podcast is geared primarily towards senior executive females. So what is the biggest challenge you help them. Face in business today and what might be some symptoms of that problem. You know. it's very interesting because the word today is what stuck out in that sentence for me because this moment in time has given us the most unique perspective of what is really important. So had we had this conversation eight or nine months ago i would very easily said prioritizing female executives have been challenged threw out the last ten twenty thirty forty years. We've continued to move up. The corporate ranks more opportunities have opened up with. How do i prioritize the various communities of concern in my life. My family my personal health. My employees. How do i do that today. I will say that that is on steroids. That prioritizing is still the number one what the view to which they look at it changed very distinctly and the most sustainable way that i can give it to you is that they are looking through the lens of life and business priorities through the three. C's compassion collaboration and cooperation Very interesting and how do you see that. Manifesting well as people who raise and want to be successful Honestly in my work it goes across male female. It really doesn't matter what we have traditionally done and what our traditional system had taught us to do was in fact being the best problem solver on the face of the earth and we internalize that as meaning. I have to know the answers. I have to formulate the solutions by myself so that i look like the leader and through the eighties and nineties. Free began to put cracks in that myth. I want you to know right. Now we've been given just dynamite. It has blown up that we realize that the problems were so great. How do you handle a medical emergency global pandemic. when in fact you've got your own family to worry about and the business that you're running or the the organizations that you're involved in at all different levels. It is really a different moment in time where we are moving away from. We have been forced to stop thinking. We can do everything on loan. In fact we are now facing the reality that it is never best to do it alone but in fact compassionate collaboration and really cooperating with others will get to the best solutions. So does that feed into my next question by what the biggest mistakes for clients. Make before working with you. Well i'll give it to you in a short way. They wait too long. We have this tendency of waiting till the pain is so great and there is a spiritual adviser who uses a term that i love that pain pushes until the vision holes. Well now we aren't waiting as long and that doesn't mean that we're reaching out for the type of help that i do with my clients necessarily because we have so many immediate concerns but we are definitely looking to others for advice and seeing what's working in their environments in their communities of concern
Biden to stop border wall construction, rejoin Paris accord on day one
"Begin dismantling President Trump's legacy in his first hours as president will sign a syriza of executive orders that will, among other things. And construction of the wall on the border with Mexico and the ban on travel from some Muslim majority countries. Under Mr Biden, the U. S is going to rejoin the Paris climate Accord and the World Health Organization. Now Senate confirmation hearings have begun for five of President Electro Biden's Cabinet. Mr Biden's choices to run Homeland Security, Treasury, national intelligence, the Pentagon and state Took questions from senators on their plans. If they're confirmed, Secretary of State nominee Antony Blinken spoke about China. It poses the most living challenge of any nation state to the United States. Blinken says. President Trump was right to get tough with China, though he didn't like the way it was done. Allison Keyes.
Alibaba's Jack Ma Resurfaces After Months of Lying Low
"Watching what's happening in Hong Kong yesterday that very strong movement into H shares, propelling the hang saying to these may 2019 hires and it is still there. A stronger yen, though, is weighing on the Nikkei 2 to 5 while you've got Australian stocks and 11 Man ties on the Cosby just retreating a little is we see foreigners sell out of that index. So we are those seeing. The Korean won actually gaining for a second session, and we want to check in on Alibaba shares as well because his use of broke last hour We have seen Jack Ma re servicing after months of speculation about where he could be his appeared on a video here, according to that has been released. I should say by China's Global Times, which has tweeted this video, saying that it was actually Taken today. January 20th Alabama founder Jack Ma, the English teacher turned entrepreneur, meeting with 100 rural teachers from across the country via video link, and you're seeing Alibaba shares. They're extending their gains up by about 2.3% heading into the lunch break. So obviously finally a little bit of clarity about her where Jack Martin may have Bean
The Seven Deadly Sins of Conflict Resolution
"Are this guy harris. Welcome to the talk like leader. Podcast this week's episode titled the seven deadly sins of conflict resolution out. Frankly i'm using. The word sends a bit stronger than his probably legitimate from an actual. What the word send means but i think you get my point. These are basically things not to do. When you find yourself in a difficult or conflict situation. I find that it's better to focus on what to do. I also know that it's helpful to know what not to do. So that if you find yourself doing it you can recognize it and fixture behaviors. So let's talk about the seven deadly sins of conflict resolution. The first is continuing to talk about the past. I have a whole episode on focusing on the future. So won't go into the opposite of this too much. But i will say that one of the problems i see crop up. Many conflict resolution conversation conflict conversations difficult conversations is a heavy emphasis on what has already happened. Well we can't do anything about so let's move on again. Reiterating a point. I made in the focus on the future episode. I'm not saying you never talk about the past. I'm saying you don't want to continue talking about the past okay. Second deadly sin of conflict resolution trying to fix emotions. It's so common. That i i hear people talk about things like what you shouldn't feel that way or a wish. You didn't feel that way or any number of comments about the other person's emotion or frankly even your own and failing to recognize that emotions are primarily the result of how we interpret and respond to world. I don't really want to get into a deep. Psychological analysis of what emotions are not for our purposes for practical application purposes. I'm going to say that emotions are the result of how we interpret and respond to the world and while we can control our behaviors. We probably can't control our emotions. We can control perceptions we can control our interpretations and by that may be indirectly control our emotions but once an interpretation has made it probably triggers an emotion and we can control our behaviors so that we control. How does we can control how we interpret other people so we can exert some influence on her behaviors or excuse me some influence on our emotions that ultimately you can't really directly control emotions or fix them either for the other person or for yourself so while we can't control the motions. We can control our interpretations and our behaviors letter to focus on what you can fix president what you can't fix so trying to fix emotions secondly sent. The third deadly sin is rushing the conflict conversation which kind of flows from the prior con- conversation about fixing emotions. Let's be honest. Conflict resolution conflict conversations difficult conversations are full of emotion ellen. They're full of emotion. You just can't be in a hurry because you. You won't resolve the emotions. I'm gonna say fixed emotions. You won't resolve the emotional component of the conversation quickly. Molise not in most situations so if a conflict conversation has gone to the point where you need a focused and intentional conversation about the conflict. Probably there's enough emotional context at the probably won't get through quickly so plan enough time for the conversation. Don't try to have this conversation the three minutes before you walk out the door or the two minutes before a meeting carve out some dedicated time to talk about whatever conflict you have so you can give the appropriate time. The fourth deadly sin continuing to blame other people. Now we all have our moments when we want to blame other people for our behaviors and the idea here is basically. I'm saying i'm blaming someone else for my behavior. Same basically will high. Did this only because you did that. I yelled at you because you yelled at me. Okay that may actually be true. It's just not helpful. So focusing on the blame component rather than the responsibility component meaning. I own my own behaviors regardless of what the other person did continuing to blame. Others are behaviors does nothing but seed and feed the conflict. It doesn't help so let's not blame other people. Fourth deadly said continuing to blame others that also leads to another deadly which is trying to justify our behavior so we blame others unjustified ourselves and i'd say the justification is sort of like blames evil twin. They often go hand in hand. Ultimately blame is kind of a form of justification and justification leads to blame. It's something i said just a minute ago about saint. I yelled at you because you yielded me. I'm justifying the why i yelled blaming. You see how they go hand in hand so often is true that if you're blaming you're also justifying and if you're justifying you're probably blaming so trying to justify your behaviors rather than owning them. Sounds more like making an excuse even though what. We're trying to explain them. Honestly justifying your behavior by blaming someone else is a poor explanation. If i behave badly. I need to own and just move on. Doesn't matter what the person did or didn't do if i behave badly. It's my fault. I have control over my behaviors. So trying to justify. Our behaviors is the fifth that leeson
Tom Bilyeu ON Why Passion Is For Wimps!
"As leader whether you're a ceo someone in the c. Suite sales later on in a leader in any capacity you know that today entrepreneurs canada rockstars of the millennial generation. But you've heard me say so many times that i believe that entrepreneurship business leadership about something far greater the money mo- more important becoming the next entrepreneurial unicorn it's about purpose and a successful business kellyanne. If you're in touch with your purpose become a way for you to positively impact the world. I'll guess today is tom billion now. He's the co founder of the two thousand fourteen inc. Five hundred company quest nutrition. It was a unicorn startup. Valued at over one billion dollars. He's the co founder and host of impact theory tons mission is the creation of empowering media based ip the acceleration of mission based businesses. Tom is driven to help. People develop the skills they need to improve themselves in the world and is intent is in using commerce and to address the joe. Pandemic of physical and mental malnourishment. Tell me regularly inspiring audiences of entrepreneurs change makers thought leaders at some of the most prestigious conferences and seminars around the world including abundance three sixty eight fast and freedom fastlane. So i'm has also been a guest on some crappy little show. What was his name some guy. We talked to tell you podcast. He's been at the school of greatest podcast and he's been featured in forbes inc and success and the huffington post and he's currently on the innovation board x prize foundation so lease and gentlemen. Please live the be here man. Thank you so much. Thanks really appreciate you being on now. Listen i know you've done frigging thousands of views i have to. We've been doing it for years. There's some really important things you like to talk about. talk about. And we'll definitely get to however a lot of the things that you're asked podcasts. The tom bill. You fans of bowed many many times and so i want to dive deep. Is that all right man. Please statement somewhere new love good so the first thing i wanna do is a kind of style from the obvious and then go a little bit more so we talked about the question nutrition. It was his unit. Con- up blah blah blah. It's the stuff. That leonard on the tony robbins podcast But you didn't start out being a business builder and entrepreneur. You start out with something that might in fact seemed like the polar opposite of the pat success. Which was your lover. Phil and you went to film school. How did your family feel about you tripping the light brand tacit rather get yourself a good steady job I think that you know my mom lived in constant and still does quite. Frankly live in a constant state of panic that i was going to do nothing with my life that i would Be unhappy in some way and so she worried but very quietly so when i was a kid she was very encouraging. Wanted me to go chase my dreams and so i didn't grow up with that like pressure from my parents or anything. They wanted to see me happy. I was very passionate about film making. They could see my excitement. They wanted to see me. Pursue it So they were very encouraging about that. My dad is. I got towards graduation. Film school he sent me starting at month. Six or five hundred member exactly my senior year. It was five more months four months three more months one month at two when he was not going to be helping me financial anymore so literally the day. I graduated I had no more assistance from my family so that was actually great so from that perspective. He didn't have too many concerns Because he just believed. I would somehow figure it out. So that long story but took me through my remedial jobs phase where you know barely making ends meet but i made some I made some what ended up being quite smart decisions around managed apartment complexes and things like that really cheap rent as why was while you were in films who know right after i graduated. Put again as about weirdness right like all you went to film school you went to film school. I assuming you want to make films and managing apartments. It's a weird mix. I mean we know people go into the arts often wait tables. You managed apartments. That must've been that entrepreneurial spirit in you as well even doing that film time. it's interesting. there really wasn't and i. I am by nature. I am the world's worst entrepreneur. I don't have any real entrepreneurial Instincts in me so even the apartment managing thing was was totally an accident. It was me capitalizing. An opportunity that presented itself and that i will say i've been good in my life about winning opportunity presents itself. I take that opportunity But if that one hadn't fallen in my lap than that it's terrifying to think what the outcome would have been. So when i went to film school i thought that i would. I was showing real promise zone school. And i thought that i had natural talent for it and that shows you my mindset. I was very focused on what what comes naturally to me and so i thought it maitlis gifted filmmaker and so the first half of them school. I did very very well. And then i got selected as one of the four people to direct senior thesis film. Which is a big deal and so when it happened was like oh my god. I'm like bud shows. I'm literally one of four people chosen to direct this film. And i'm gonna make this. It's going to be amazing. i'm gonna go out. I'm gonna get a three picture. Deal from hollywood off the back of how good this film is going to be. And and my life will be. That's literally what i was thinking. And i showed up on the first day of domain with virtually no preparation and to give i wrote the script like to the minute that it was due so a couple of hours before. I jot something down which only feeds ending it gets elected which only feeds into. I'm just naturally good at this. So i roll up onset completely unprepared and i fail miserably very publicly incredibly embarrassingly and then that shakes my whole world and makes me realized that i am. I am not a talented filmmaker like that was the hard realization that i had phase at that moment.
Banking heir Benjamin de Rothschild dies at 57
"Benjamin to Rothschild, who oversaw the banking empire started by his father in 1953 has passed away. He was 57 years old. The Edmund A Rothschild group, says that he died of a heart attack Friday at his home in Switzerland. Since 1997 Benjamin de Rothschild, head of the banking group, named after his father today, Edmondo Rothschild Group says it manages €160 billion and
Leadership & Team Development Consultant
"Hi my name is on the liberal. And thanks for listening to the can be Guest series two of the most to inflict Leaders in my life have been to my managers. One i love kenyans taught me how trustworthy an open relationship can be built within a matter of seconds when it was going through the hiring process for job with her in my last two years of studies. One of the steps was to take Off to the testimony came back to interview room and announced new hope very higher score higher than mine and i got the job. I the show. That doesn't have to be the best at everything. And it's a strength to know your exports and even bigger trend is to hire people to fill the gap and be open about it and such an authentic wayne. The other flinch leader in my life was benson a manager. The consultancy walsum during one of the performance reviews who discussed how happy both might employer in the current client. Where about how worked. And how. I was continuously growing this. My silent scope eric. Truce bomb the Person does lead them just to have at least forty five years till retirement. My manager a person whose role can be seen as a making sure that bring money to my company basically told me slow down girl when you do in the long run in one short sentence. Eric me that true leadership can be about caring for your people wouldn't them well and possibly compromise in short term. Wins for the sake of the person's roping in hitting the company's long-term goals the first mistake might does a leader was taking pride in empty part of my cat trumped. Assuming people have to accept me. Just as i used to be a way to straightforward partly due to my cultural background coming from ukraine parking due to my personality. My dad is to tell me when i was a teenager that i'd have problems in my last because of my stubbornness pm to straightforward. And right. he. He took me some time to learn that for successfully getting people on board as a leader. I need to slow down to get softer and more patient. And most importantly to listen more intently and to listen more at all i might know the answer to all the solution. But if others are involved in bringing it to fruition. My job is not to serve this ocean on a silver platter but to help the team explorer situation and finest live together and more often than not the team. Solution will be better than what i thought off because of the diverse perspectives for all. Drink to the table. I believe that the difference between a good leader and a great leader lies in their self-awareness and in the self leadership skills by working on ourselves and become better at understanding our own self. We become more curious about understanding the others more patient and more empathetic every crate leader. I know continues to work some herself and reflects on our progress keeps learning and developing always sees steeper understanding of herself and the others and is committed to identifying her plight spots and improving in those areas often with help with the others. They know god. They don't know everything and a humble to admit that they're ready to collaborate with others to silva kept together as a leader of people end. Developer of talent beat my team. Members klein's friends or community members. I met her success by the depth of the conversation. I'm having with mike people and kind of questions. They're coming to me with often. Get questions like have you always been like this or did you learn it. I want to be like you can me so much lives pulls down to a mindset attitude and if people get inspired and willing to transform their lives through watching me than have succeeded and i'm always happy to answer their questions and more importantly ask questions to help them explore themselves and get the transformation into the reality.
Insights of Commanding a Carrier Jet Squadron with Jack Curtis
"Jack curtis here on dose of leadership. Welcome to the show my friend. Thank you very much for having me. It's pleasure this is going to be an interesting conversation. I mean it's obviously. I love having fellow prior military folks on here but now that i got a fellow gold winger on here so that's always fun but never had anybody that's been in command of a squadron on one of the things that i always regret. I gotta the ring court right at ten years. I got the airlines. But what are the an. I ten years reserves and the guard. But i always regretted not taking. I always want to know what it'd be like. Take command so this is going to be a fun conversation. I am interested from your aspect of it. I was joking when i got on the call with. You don't look old enough to take command. But i forget how my squadron commander was like in the late thirties. Fifty two now. And you're in your early forties right so you just don't look old enough to take command but i it's just me not dealing well with the age of getting older but but thanks for coming on the show man privilege beer. I've listened to your show for for a long time. Several years. And i gotta i gotta admit i'm pretty humbled to have looked at the lineup of people you've got on your show and the quality conversations you've had into now get to be a part of. Its thank you well new and i have a history to because i don't how many years ago wasn't you reached out to me. I mean in karachi. That's probably two thousand and fifteen. Or so i had just selected been selected for command was kinda starting to do a little bit of thinking about Some this bigger picture leadership stuff and i came across your podcast. And i said hey. I think i'd like to talk to this guy. And your gracious enough with your time and I remain grateful for that. Yeah and you reached out in an i. Don't remember what advice gave you. Hopefully it was. It was okay enough. Didn't get fired very go. And and then you reach that again graciously a blast from the past and you kinda update me where you're at and i appreciate you. I thought well this might be good to have you on the show because it gives an insight to leadership that i think a lot of people usually don't get the inside baseball on right and i'm curious to because it's something that i've never experienced. It's something that i always wish. I wonder how i would do. But you had a unique experience. Let just for the sake of our listeners. Your naval aviator right. You eventually started flu wing. How long have a perspective here. What year was that yes. We'll jump in the way back machine. A graduated from the university of florida in may of two thousand I immediately went up. To pensacola started flight. School you're familiar with this track You made my way through Through flight school and then ended up finishing in may of two thousand. Two's almost exactly two years of flight school which is relatively quick Yeah i had a lot of A lot of wait times like six Wait six months. then i'd start a phase. Wait six started phase so it took me a while. Yeah i was really grateful to be able to go through that quickly to i think And your instructor. If i recall correctly i mean one of the things. That's so important. When you're learning a new skill or a trade or a job or task is just repetition over and over and as you work towards those ten thousand hours right and You know being able to go through flight school. That quickly meant that. I was flying almost every day. I was in a simulator almost every day. Sometimes twice a day and You know being a middle of the bell curve kind of blue collar pilot. Like i'm in a career of repetition important so yeah long. Answer your question but i got winged in two thousand and two. Okay good yeah so that you're about eleven years ahead head me or eight years. I got winged and yeah ten years ahead of me winged in. I wanna keep doing this math. I'm like my head's about to explode anyway. I'm old you're not so that's the whole thing that it came up with so you get and you fly the ea six right. And so you're you're flying to that and eventually transition to the e. Eighteen growler super hornet and eventually took command right. And so. when did you so this is interesting. So when did is this your first command and when was this. When was your first command. Yeah so you know the navy. Does things a bit differently than Some of the other services particularly army and the marines where he will have a platoon commander for our company commander the navy Typically there are a few exceptions with some of the small ships but The navy typically reserves its first level of command at the level In the marine corps. In the army as lieutenant colonel battalion command in the navy at squadron command of a squadron commanded on the aircraft side or it could be on the ships a destroyer Nope yes this is. My perception commands I took command having been in the navy for. I think the eighteen year mark
A Conversation with Whitney Johnson
"Whitney. Welcome to the show andy. I am delighted to be here. I'm excited to to talk to you. Because i liked your book a lot. So you know some and we didn't write for sales audience per se but as a lot of very sales specific stuff in there. I thought at least maybe the lens. I read it so i can't wait to chat with you about it but one thing i wanted to ask sign. Hopefully you're well. Were recording this in the midst of the the lockdown sidano omit the formalities. But we are well for asking. I mean it's one of those questions that it used to be just a nice city but it's now a real question is a real question right. What's good and you're joining us from where we live in lexington virginia so my my husband is a professor at southern virginia university which is also near virginia military institute and washington and lee. So we're about three hours driving south west of washington dc. So is that out neuronal them. Yes yes that's our closest airport is about fifty miles away. Wow okay so having lived in big cities or served doing a little more not so rural but smaller city living. It's definitely rural. We completely disrupted ourselves. I mean why give you look outside of our window in the morning we can see deer and there are cows next door to us in fact when we very first moved here. Because we've lived in boston in manhattan in large cities when we first moved here. I remember waking up one morning. And i like hitting hitting but like you know pulling my honey honey. Turn off your phone. Because it was buzzing buzzing any turnover. And he's like those. Are the cows unbend an adjustment for us. I find one. I'm away from manhattan anywhere. I go but like my visit. My sister in wisconsin. And both my wife and i get woken up by the quiet. It's like it's too quiet and it's like wait. Why are we going every week. And you're accustomed to having the noise outside all the time that are. Do you know at some level that that it's too quiet attack keeps me up. I love that looking at by the quiet. So i was gonna ask you. Are you follow soccer fan. Because you wrote that you are going to produce a reality. Tv show about sauerland america and listeners. To show that. I'm a avid soccer fan. Oh i wish. I could say that i am. I got really excited. So this This is actually almost fifteen years ago. Now where i. I was a huge american idol. Fan in a huge. So you think you can dance fan. And and i was doing a lot of work in latin america was equity analyst. And so you know. I've been to mexico fifty times to spend a lot of my doing work a lot. American one of our companies that we followed on as equity analyst was televisa which time was basically abc cbs nbc and fox combined and again this is fifteen years ago and so we thought wait. We have an opportunity here to basically do you know. Soccer meets american idol and just got so excited about the stories of that could have produced on so while. I'm not a soccer fan per se. I am a cinderella story fan and i just thought that that could have been an amazing august show to have produced. I wanna watch for sure. So the regular listeners. Get accustomed going off on soccer stuff here. Tangents everything relates to soccer. Soccer explains the world. There was a book that wrote that. So about that so I think i read that book. Actually it was a good book. Yeah yeah so Pet the author on the show. So so we're talking about transformation personal transformation you. I've really enjoyed your book. Which you've just updated and re released disrupt yourself masterless change and speed up your learning curve. So what was the original impetus. Write the book you know. That's one of those questions that its you can answer many different ways on. But let me see. If i can streamline so that we're not here all day on you know as i just mentioned i was equity analyst. Were keep merrill lynch In a focusing on stocks in latin america like televisa so like america melville and this is back in two thousand three two thousand four. I read the book. The innovators dilemma by christian at harvard. Business school and i remember reading that book and it just was in many a transformative experience. If you will. Because i was looking at wireless at the time in every single quarter america. Mobile was beating my numbers like just every time and and telmex numbers weren't so that was the wireline company. In american mobile was the wireless i read. I read innovators dilemma. I said oh. That's what's going on. Is that wireless is disrupting wireline. And i was just fascinated. That there was a s- theory that could explain to me the world and help me understand what was happening And the more. I read that book it more i started. I think maybe just because of my own personal bent started thinking. Well how does this apply to me. Like i understand. It's explained products and services in companies in countries. But i also remember having this moment in just two thousand four. And i had just had this conversation with Someone in management saying you know what really liked to try something else. I'd like to do something else attorney. I'd like to go into management kind of laughed at me. Kind of snickered. Like ov- outs nice. That's never going to happen. And i remember coming back to that book and being you know what if i wanna do whatever it is. I think i'm meant to do which i had a very vague notion. I think many of us do I'm going to have to disrupt myself. I'm gonna have to leave wall street and go do something else.
Julia Gillard on the year that was 2020
"Hello listeners will here. We are at the end of twenty twenty. Finally this is year any of us wanted. And if you feel as though you're limping through to the end of it you're not align wave face challenges individually and collectively as a result of covid nineteen. It's been a big adjustment for all of us to navigate life in this you way. I now familiar. Normally spain. the traveling the world for the different roles zion to take for organizations like the global institute for women's leadership and the global partnership for education. This year. I've been very much at home in adelaide. I've missed face to face. Contact the new places in the energy ideas and excitement that generated in a room full of people but there have been some upsides to not traveling. My bay my life. And i've been to sing more of my family including baby here for the start of my new great nieces life. Baby gwen joined us july. I've come to both the lies and love digital platforms and new ways of communicating and fortunately with global commitments paying online in the middle of the night has been far too common experience this year. Podcast of oncein reflected the new normal chilly while i haven't been to travel my conversations of still traverse the globe back from the safety of my home. Many of my guests reflect on the pandemics impact on gender inequality we have discussed women. The workforce and how we structure working lives leadership. And what. We want a nate from our world. Latest now they seems to be a race thinking of the traditional styles of leadership and a focus on the need to incorporate other traits like kindness empathy and compassion as we approach the end of twenty twenty. I've gone back through the many episodes we've released the and picked up some of my favorite discussions for you to enjoy someone. I've always admired. Is sally mcmanus of non sally. For many years three professional life an always fantas style of ladyship refreshing now is head of the australian council of trade unions. Sally is leading the conversation about the impact of the pandemic on the economy and working life unlike earlier disruptions often major adjustments in the economy iran manufacturing affecting time mile jobs covid nineteen disproportionately bang about women's work. We saying the impact on part-time casual work the hospitality travel and tourism industries. Sickness where the workforce tends to be a feminist one. It's become clear we need more secure jobs and less sick maintained light before the new ways of working we a pioneering now could and should stay with us and give us more flexible and gender responsive workplaces. My conversation with sally took place before curving really made an impact. So we didn't discuss these issues but i conversation went in directions. I hadn't experienced before in podcasting and really experienced in conversations with other women seven said she done things she was white for it. good at. It's so unusual to hear a woman. Say good things issues telling me a bad childhood soccer dreams. Well this is why back in the dice obese. Would've been in the early eighties. And i was really good at soccer. And i had two younger brothers so sort of used to roughing it with my brothers and always the name to stronger than them to until i hit puberty and that was something i was happy about but anyway i was. I used to play soccer at lunchtime with the boys. The boys doing so. I used to play soccer after school and the coach would just let me join in and always the best in the team and really really wanted to play because it go to the way candid that be the match on and i couldn't fly because ridiculous rules saying that goes couldn't play in the boys teams. They ended up taking it to through the hierarchy of the soccer club and they had a meeting in that. Assad no goes cop. Line the team and for me as a ten year old it just same so ridiculous but so deeply unfair like this is something that i love but not only did i love. I was better than all the like. Why couldn't i use that skill at a my simple child mind back then. I thought well it's just because i'm not a boy. Well that's it so. I bought my brother's school uniform and i went to school the next day and are lined up in the boys line and i said i'm no longest sally shine and that's it. I thought that that would as a successful way of getting into the soccer team. Now did that word. Disaster a total disaster. That school didn't react well. My parents certainly did not react. Well i think thought it was probably more than it was. It was just simply may wanting to play soccer. I'm sure schools would deal with this much better these days but they did not deal with it. Well so i remember the next time on the sent me to school with the clip. Some buzzy my hair which julie ripped off the minute. I got around the corner but unfortunately it didn't make it into the soccer team
Jessica Nordlander: Real Time Collaborative Decision Making
"Of leadership lousy tips for executives. That comes through decision making based on the needs and the feedback. Let me ask you what you need to do. To up level you'll leadership. How come we filter the information to make the most of his. Do we have a whole. Put our ideas to the crowd. How do we determine the quality of the feedback that we get back see. Decisions are often made in response to the loudest and quickest voices in the room. Whatever that room whether that rooms digital room on a physical room and even though they those decisions might affect the quiet majority and as a result we can end up making decisions that we believe. A right someone will fail because we lack support of that majority because they often come in later. Well what if. There's a way to elicit the most popular insights and ideas in in any in an ovation for creative conversation. And have those ideas actually rise to the top allowing
Gaby Natale on How to Restore Our Confidence Through the Virtuous Circle
"American journalist author entrepreneur host and executive producer of the tv program super latina which airs nationwide on. Pbs vm etv. She's won three daytime emmy awards for outstanding daytime talent in a spanish language program and outstanding entertainment program in spanish. She's got a great book out. There called the virtuous circle man. This is chock full of fantastic information. It's based on a provocative premise that talent and connections do not guarantee a path to success. How many times you heard me say that on dose of leadership that talent is a given right. There's always something else that's driving success. It's and we think it's talent. We think it's who we know and so gaby unpacked at in her book. And what is it. Then that sets top achievers apart from everybody else do her show super latino. She's created a system of seven imminent archetypes. That wants they're activated. They create this clear path to achievement. I love this book. It's based on decades worth of interviews of extraordinary world leaders deepak chopra legend carlos. Santana like me. She's learned a lot from interviewing. Like i have on this show and in this book she breaks down their stories and discovered how all these great people chief significant things have channeled their inner strength the best work for them certainly. It's a book that talks about road to success stories but it's also about her improbable path which we talk a lot about in this conversation from unemployment in native argentina to having a dream that seemed impossible. People keeping you down sometimes people that you know when friends can stop you from achieving those dreams. But she knew it was in her heart and she eventually became this three time emmy award winning media personality and entrepreneur in the states. She's definitely all about pushing boundaries. It's part of her intentional makeup. And you're gonna love this conversation again. Her her stories amazing. The book is i. I read a lot books in the first few weeks in. Twenty twenty one. I've literally read eight books in this first three weeks and this one is really stood out. Because it's just chock full of so much value so much how to's coupled with the stories. It's it's a win win book. It's something you've got to have on your shelf. I really do believe that. End the conversation with there was so much fun and it was such a thrill to have her on the show. It is brought to you. My my longtime sponsor equity bank been with me well over fifty episodes almost two and a half years now and it's a team that really knows what it takes to start and grow business. I've spoken at their leadership conference. I know the leaders personally. It's been exciting to watch them. Grow into one of the fast going. Banks in the midwest are listed on the nasdaq exchange. They got locations all across kansas oklahoma arkansas with plans to expand even further clearly. This team at equity make knows how to lead for growth and sofa feels like your current bank is more of a follower than a leader. And you wanna work with the bank. That really your needs understand. Entrepreneurship understands leadership. Checkout equity bank. Go to bank dot com to learn more. Thanks for listening. Subscribe breaking review. If you haven't done so tell somebody about this show. Word of mouth does wonders to keep this in the top twenty album. Podcast and business management category on spotify. And it's all because you thanks for taking the time to write review. Hopefully it's five stars and reach out to those leadership dot com richard. It doesn't leadership dot com's a good way to email me or fill up the contact form. Connect let me know where your leadership journey all right. Let's get on with this conversation with. Gabby tie here on those submission. Gabby what a thrill to have you on dose of ship the show all your work onto my close. Your looks great and you were asking if we're going to do video then i was impressed. By how you zoomed in man. Like a pro zoomed in and got the right. I think it looks great and you get the person the background and everything else. I know because You know all this quarantine we thought about being you know creative thinking outside the box and everything and so. I changed these. I'm not going to my office. I'm going really quarantining hardcore so. I know that this is the ruin my house. That has the best acoustic jangle. I even put some lights in the bud and also at the same time. A mogul be interrupted who wanna conversations shows a williams mike lawson. I love it. Yeah i moved down here to the basement. I'm still doing. What the acoustics i put up these big senate panels on the. You can't see it. But i got this. Big fluffy blanket right here. This reflect absorbing the sound on my wall. I still get this echoey. So i still got some work to do in here but now i don't have a closet like you to go into. Well i gotta tell you. I really enjoyed your book the virtuous circle and i love how you even opened up the book. How it's for dreamers to rebels at heart who see on the circumstances surrounding the my love. The i knew when. I read that in the preface that this was going to be a great book and we think along the same things. I love the fact that you're really passionate about getting people to understand that you have something in. We all have something inside of us in. It's just our job is just unleash it right. It's already there right. I mean that's how i see. It's that's how i see too but it took me a long time and it took me seeing gave in other people mice that i also had me because i as a journalist was fortunate enough to spend fifteen years interviewing extraordinary people and so i ask myself what do they all have in common. You know so many of them. They were underdogs. They were not the most likely to succeed just like me. The most likely to succeed many times and and by talking to them it transformed me. And i realized that these people were they had is what i mentioned. They were able to concerned themselves permission. So see beyond their current circumstances. We go sometimes our current circumstances. They overwhelm us or sometimes. We believe other people's low expectations about us or people like us and if we believe them they become self winning prophecies. And that's what we don't want to happen yet. You said a lot of great things there. And it's so true the blessing i think of again of you having the opportunity and the ability to interview so many great people as journalist it does it does change in. We were talking a little bit before the recording. I mean my life has been totally transformed. Because i've had four hundred and fifty plus conversations. I can't it's even hard to describe what that does to you. So that's a blessing that you saw that in it's great. It's a great question to ask. What do all these people have in. It's interesting that you you extracted from them that use that they refuse to accept whatever all the external noise. That's coming into them right in in. That's the that's the head trash that all of us agree. That's one of the things i've learned from doing. This shows that everybody has this head trashed. He's limiting beliefs right. I always say you have to be leaving your vision even before you have. The results. Validate it goes. Everybody can believe in their vision ones. They won the lottery. Was they know they have a winning the lottery. You know you have to believe in the vision even before you have the results validated. And what i saw in on these people is what i call virtuous circle which is Archetypes that leaving site all of us at seven archetypes that constitute the virtuous circle. I'm going to briefly. Explain the different chapter in the book. I'm gonna be really brief right now. The first one is what. I call the dreamer. Everybody could succeed that i interviewed. They have an inner dreamer. The inner dreamers the one that allows you to visualize that dream was second. Archetype is the architect. The architect is the one that plans richard. Your media plan this conversation. We plan our meals. We plan our budgets. We already have that inner architect inside of us the third one. Because you're not cheap. Great things just from visualizing plan and i am planning the third one is the maker you have to execute and so many people get stacking in this one. They
Former Pro & Collegiate Basketball Player Ron Baker Shares His Leadership Lessons
"Ron baker on dose of leadership to show my friend richard. Good to be here. I've listened to a couple. Well let's Earlier so big fan so we'll have to get launch and get to know each other a little more. Yeah no this is exciting For me it's great. you know. Thank you for so many. Great years as a wichita state shockers fan you gave me such joy and highlights from watching you guys. You know a few years back so it. It's fun having you on the show. Yeah that's great. Some good memories back back in those days. Glad i could be apart of. Yeah so that's interesting you move. How long have you been back in. Wichita i guess i didn't really realize you were back here in town. How long have you been back here on calling his home again. So i played a season in moscow russia. Back when hit. I believe march cedant is kind of when things really shut down over there. We got back stateside around april first. And i just live with old. Audrey made a mine here in wichita since so not even quite a year. Okay interesting well. That's good so. And i think i knew that you'd you'd gone to play a over in moscow. I can't remember that. But i if from an outsider looking in that seems like that would be kinda lonely. I don't know what is that. What was that like going over. There just would seem like so such a culture shock. I think from yards definitely a culture shock. Not really knowing what it's like over there only thing we see as a kid from kansas is what we see on movies or tv shows right seems like russia's always the intimate right reality. Is you over there in his pretty similar to your city the only differences a lot of people over there don't speak english so there's times where it was tough to communicate up to fit in but there's a lot of things to entertain you over there regardless if you can't eight the yourself which was nice ano- as traveled a lot in the marine corps. And then as you're right the more you travel the more a lot of things as it seems right perceptions but even then it's nice to put things in your perspective right and not what someone feed us forest news and i always found it working to things a little differently. Yeah for sure. And i will also found too that it made me appreciate what we have where we came from right. I mean even when you do that in the states and both coming from kansas when my kids are grown up. And i remember too i wanted to. I'm and can't wait to get out of kansas. And then i lived ten years for the most part in the west coast in southern california loved it and then kind of came back after nine eleven. And we've been here. Ever since. And i remember saying this isn't so bad i mean i think everybody should go out and experience everything else but man. It is nice i think sometimes. Kansas gets a bad rap. You know what i mean. I mean yeah right some excitement as there's nothing to do yeah but in reality there's a ton to do because you have for example new york city. Everything's on top of one another. Don't really have freedom of movement the space to do what you want. And that's kinda wear what you were saying. You come back to kansas and you take for granted we're given year Just in the state alone another thing. Is we really really start to appreciate our freedoms as far as our country allows us to do especially when you go over to those other countries across upon. Things are a lot different over there compared to here. Yeah i remember even just like little things of go into a for example even a grocery store and like here you walk into a super target or super walmart in la you have. Can you get say peanut butter. For example. they'll be ten different brands of peanut butter at the super target. A lot of times he go someplace somewhere else. There's there's one brand or maybe two in in the shelves or somewhat empty. I don't know it's just little things like that. You're right so it makes me appreciate what we do. Have your in the space especially the space in kansas like yards even in southern california's like man. Anyway want to talk about leadership with you right all right and i've always appreciated something about you from an outsider looking in not just barely knowing you knowing you a little bit one thing. I've always appreciated about. You is your level of composure. I talk about on this show. That one of the things of leadership had the foresees compose confident consistent and courageous composers always. I've always loved how you carry yourself on and off the basketball field. How intentional is that for you. I mean if you look back at your role models at your examples. Is that something that just was ingrained in you to something that you're intentional about it. You should level of composers has always stuck out to me yet. Composers a good word when it comes to leadership has when you're a leader seems like everyone's always looking at you no matter when or where Though as a athlete as myself. Regardless of where. I go i always got you know realize. There's people watching me. There's people looking up to me whether it's kids or people my age so it's always important to treat people the correct way be genuine is always kind of on a pedestal. That you're always aware you're being watched.
Joel Block: The Corporate Social Media Time Bomb
"I'm joel block. Hedge fund manager venture capitalist and wall street insider today. We're going to talk about trends for twenty twenty one and beyond. We're gonna talk about what you can learn from playing blackjack and we're gonna talk about the time bomb set to random that is buried inside of social media. Stay tuned congratulations. You're tuned into dov barons leadership and loyalty show the number one podcast for fortune five hundred executives and those who are dedicated to creating a quantum leap in leadership. Your host dove baron. He's an executive mentor to leaders. Like you a contributing writer for entrepreneur magazine ceo world. And he's been featured on cnn fox cbs and many other notable sites dov. Baron is an international business speaker who is named by inc magazine as one of top one hundred leadership speakers to hire now over to dov baron welcomed friends fans and fellow aficionados of leadership. Excellence thank you for joining us on this episode of leadership. Loyalty timpson for executives. Let me ask you what do you need to do to opt level. You will readership. Well the truth is that every company matter how big or how small needs a megaphone to get to your customers away to get your potential for them to get to know who you are well cable is dead and if social media companies can throw you off. Their platforms is having your business on that phone. Well that's where we're going so stay tooth. I'm host dov barron. I am the dragon here to assist you. Jumping into the one thing. You'll business that changes everything by transforming meaning into action by the more you can simply go to
This 12 Year Old Wrote A Novel...What's Your Excuse?
"Everyone kevin crews here with a very special podcast. In fact this episode we will be cross posting on both delete x leadership show and the extreme productivity podcast. Today my guest. And i will be talking about secrets to productivity which is just another way to say how to make your goals and dreams come true. We're gonna talk about how you can finally write that book. You always wanted to write but just don't have time and if your student middle school high school college how can you even get your homework done in less time. But these productivity secrets are universal. Doesn't matter what your goal is. What your dream is. They're going to help you to actually make it happen in. Twenty twenty one. Now we're going to be chatting about things like your most important task. The magic of fourteen forty maximizing your focused attention and more and who is my special guest on productivity today. I'm lucky to have with me twelve year old. Cnn cnn. welcome to the show. Hi and i should also say. Cnn we invited your mom to hang out with us. Hello heather thanks for joining. Hello so cnn you sent me an email out of the blue right like how many months ago. ago months ago okay now. I don't get a lot of reader emails. But i might get ten or twenty emails a day and i've been writing about twenty years now so i got to save that the probably hundred thousand emails. I've gotten from readers I always read them. I don't always reply to them. I try to reply to a lot but yours really stood out to me. You had a very special email. Which is why. I invited you on the show to to talk about it and i guess for our listeners. I'm hoping that you will actually. I've got a copy here. I'm going to share it on the screen that you'll read this email so they know kind of just how how we met if you will go ahead and read the email that you sent me a couple couple of months ago. My name is john. I'm in eighth grade. Twelve years old enema writer. About a month ago. I was interested in improving my words per hour. I wanted to write a book. But i was procrastinating so much snapchat instagram and taking buzzfeed quizzes seem more appealing. So i began to look for ways to become more productive. Eventually i stumbled upon your podcast. And when i listened to it changed my life your tips about productivity was Implemented immediately nine. Oh myung but that doesn't mean. I'm not busy with homework. Music family in sports. I was so busy exhausted. I know time to do anything. Including writing. Which is my mit. Every day i love message about the number fourteen forty so i print out the sign put in my room at the start of november. I took the challenge of twitter. Seemed impossible only a few months ago. I decided to write seventy five thousand words in the month of november. This programs knows nanna raimondo. I'm in the young writers programme. So far i've written forty six thousand two hundred and thirty eight words. This month i can now hit twenty five hundred words in our forbes around nine hundred and i've implemented a morning routine with trees up in our to just write. My homework gets done a lot. Faster much to my mom's relief and my entire day scheduled on google calendar. So thank you for your amazing podcast.
Tom Bilyeu: Passion is for Wimps!
"So thank you for sharing the show with everybody you know. Look there are literally millions of podcasts. Out that thousands of them focus on leadership in but is only one that focuses on the sole leadership. You'll tune into it so we need your help. Remember days off over to race review and subscribe to show do it now. If i'm going to set. Tom billion so terrible things to get all all right. Let's let's dive right in and strip it right down as leader whether you're a ceo someone in the c. Suite sales later on in a leader in any capacity you know that today entrepreneurs canada rockstars of the millennial generation. But you've heard me say so many times that i believe that entrepreneurship business leadership about something far greater the money mo- more important becoming the next entrepreneurial unicorn it's about purpose and a successful business kellyanne. If you're in touch with your purpose become a way for you to positively impact the world. I'll guess today is tom billion now. He's the co founder of the two thousand fourteen inc. Five hundred company quest nutrition. It was a unicorn startup. Valued at over one billion dollars. He's the co founder and host of impact theory tons mission is the creation of empowering media based ip the acceleration of mission based businesses. Tom is driven to help. People develop the skills they need to improve themselves in the world and is intent is in using commerce and to address the joe. Pandemic of physical and mental malnourishment. Tell me regularly inspiring audiences of entrepreneurs change makers thought leaders at some of the most prestigious conferences and seminars around the world including abundance three sixty eight fast and freedom fastlane. So i'm has also been a guest on some crappy little show. What was his name some guy. We talked to tell you podcast. He's been at the school of greatest podcast and he's been featured in forbes inc and success and the huffington post and he's currently on the innovation board x prize foundation so lease and gentlemen.
How to Rebound from Pain to Passion with Coach Matt Doherty
"Job and one that he thought would last long time however in june of two thousand bill. Guttridge who was coaching unc. At the time decided to retire and everybody was thinking of roy. Williams was expected to replace him but williams turned them down and so unc. Turn their attention to matt. Doherty and with the help of michael jordan in dean smith recruited matt doherty to come home as the head coach of the university. North carolina tar heels in two thousand. And one. If you remember. Unc won the ac regular season championship and dirty was voted two thousand one. Ap national coach of the year in two short years later coached thirty was forced to resign from this dream job. So what went wrong. Why did this happen. How do you go from reaching the top of the mountain and eventually falling off the cliff and most importantly how do you prepare and set yourself up for success for you next opportunity after you have the split moment you hear me talk about these splat moments on the show coach dirty certainly had one. And that's what we talk about on this show. He also talks about it in his great new book called rebound from pain to passion which is a great book because it highlights the inside the back story of all of this what it means to be a player coach at the highest level and at the collegiate level. And then have it all taken away and reinvent yourself. And i really appreciate coach commitment authenticity. Transparency invulnerability again for me talk about these. These are the keys to transformation those three keys of transformation is what's so needed and i really appreciate how coach he came on the show and laid it all out there. He still struggling with it. And who can blame him and i appreciate his honesty and his willingness to talk about that on the show. I think you're gonna get a lot out of it. He's a straightforward guy. He's authentic and i really liked this conversation because it gives you a front seat the inside scoop of what. It's like to go from the pinnacle dream job to now. He's reinventing himself s still. A coach as an executive coach is a coaching. What was interesting to me. Is that as he says in the book and we say this conversation that he really didn't start to understand leadership until he had that splat moment which was really surprising to me and it led to Some great insights. So sit back. Enjoy this conversation. You're really gonna get a lot out of coach. He's one of the great ones out there. And i really appreciate him coming on the show. It is brought to you by my sponsor bank. Which as you've heard me say they've been with me well over two years well over fifty episodes a team that truly knows what it takes starring role of business. That's what i like about them. Most banks aren't don't seem to be in tuned to that so it's been exciting to watch them. Grow into the fastest growing banks in the mid west equity bank is listed on the nasdaq exchange. They got locations all across kansas oklahoma missouri. Arkansas with plans to expand even further clearly. This team equity bank knows how to leave for growth so it feels like your current bank is more of a follower than a leader. And you wanna work with the bank. That really understands your needs as a leader as an entrepreneur. Check my friend equity bank equity bank dot com to learn more all right. Let's get on with this great conversation with coach matt doherty here on those coach matt doherty on dose of leadership. Welcome to the show. Thank you very much appreciate you having me on. Yeah i was excited talk. You always like talking with with coaches particularly at the level that you've coached at and you've been a player and a coach and so this is going to be a fun conversation then great job on the book by the way finishing last night. So wow so many things to talk about and we were talking about in the pre recording. And i'll just say this that. I was really amazed. Read your book that your leadership journey really didn't intensely start as you admit until you lost your job what you consider your dream job at unc. That and that's amazing to me because you had so many years as a player surrounded by professional coaches so many great examples in mentors but yet your leadership. He didn't really start to after that kind of fall right. Yeah i i think there's no finish line leadership if you if you think you've arrived dislike playing golf if you think you've arrived you're going to hit it out of bounds and i think that you have to constantly learn it. It constantly vow evolves. My company called darty coaching practice. And the motto is learn and grow And i think roy williams often would say that you could be on the right track. But if you're standing still you're gonna get run over especially nowadays it's constantly evolving whether it's due to new generations new technology new strategies On the court in the boardroom It is constantly evolving. I'm a leader. You've got to continually work at it. I did have great models. I had bob mckillop as a high school coach. Who's the coach at davidson college I had my other high school coach. Dick zeitler. I had a dean smith who is one of the best. And then i had Bob mckillop as a coach. I was an assistant for bob at davidson. And i was an assistant for roy williams and i think the one thing i talk about in the book the keys to leadership and i think there's six of them and i talk about step it. I make a story. Up is the only way i can remember things. And hopefully the audience can remember Stabbed is a guy. Recruited and his name is spelled s. T. v. i t. and the acronym stands for self gotta know yourself team. You gotta know your team. The is for environment. You gotta know your surroundings the for vision. You have to know where you're going and sell it to your team. That is the industry. You've got to know your industry and stay current To put your team in six position to be successful. And then t is mine for the truth and i think that the leaders do a bad thing of one and six. They don't really know themselves. Yeah very self-aware in that gets them in trouble and as a result. Part of that is hand in hand is they. Don't mind for the truth. And don't create a safe environment for somebody to tell them the truth and i say that you need to have somebody on your staff that their job is to be the truth teller and it should actually be on their business card. He has a duller so your role as a truth teller rich. Allow you to come in to me to my office to me anytime in a in in in in a respectful way. Tell me your thoughts and that you disagree with something that i did and the potential ramifications of that and then i have to accept that yeah. I don't have to agree. But i got gotta listen in respect yeah Respected digested and then. I decide to act at least now that blindspot gets closed. Oh gosh he told me it was there. So i can i say you either. You the manage the truth of the truth manage.
Win the Day | Mark Batterson
"Lead ex show with new york times bestselling author and eat five hundred entrepreneur. Kevin cruise lark kevin. How are you. I'm great how you doing not half bad. you will remember this market. We actually spoke. I had to look it up three years ago for chase the lion which i love that book and it was back. Then you episode number sixty eight. You're now going to be episode. Three hundred ninety on the podcast. So wow you've been busy. I don't know where you've been. I've been here everyday. Doing podcast is taken three years for us to reconnect unreal. Well no of course. I remember that. I remember that interview. That was a fun one. That book was fun book. And i think this one all. It's kind of the same vein a little bit different metaphor. But hey can i ask you one question. Your what you're doing all of these interviews during kind of kovin crisis. Racial tension political polarization. Anything kind of one or two big takeaways the us from these interviews or is it hard to to narrow it down to that. you know. it's a great question. And i can't narrow it down because just as you said i view twenty twenty. You know it's going to go down. As the year of pandemic protests and politics right the three pools and all of that is even for those of us who who in a normal year. Think we're just really chill and take you very resilient it's very you know and it sort of just like even as softly in the background you know it's just stress hormones or dripping away and i think i'm not here in any one big theme or anyone big takeaway. I think people are in their best days. They're all talking about how we can come out the other side of this better. You know whether it's hey. Let's let's use twenty twenty to get in great shape. Let's he's twenty twenty to write that book or let's us twenty twenty to develop our resilience. Let's try to do that but again you know on the other days. We're all dealing with our kids home from school. Run in the background or you know fights thanksgiving or whatever it might be. It's just it's challenging. Yeah you see a theme or any larger takeaways. I think for me. Well a couple of quick things. One is the stay calm and carry on. I think this is really critical for leaders to set the pace. the tone. Yeah but then. I have a friend who actually goes to our church. You work at the white house. Couple of doors down from the oval office awhile back so he does crisis management emergency kind of stuff and i love what he says. We reserve the right to get smarter. And so you know right now. This has been a year where hopefully we're getting smarter l. That's interesting there's the old saying about never let a crisis go to waste and you know the funny thing is i remember back in. Oh eight with the the economy sort of melted down a bit. A lot of people in the governor saying that well okay what. Let's what did we learn. How do we make some changes. Don't don't let this crisis go to waste. But there's just so much this year. And i'm not seeing that everybody's a green on how to come out stronger from the other side but we we stay strong. Carry on this too shall pass right. Yep for sure mark for those who are listening to the podcast version. And for some reason they were busy back in june of two thousand seventeen and didn't listen to our first chat. I want to remind them that. You are the lead pastor of national community church which has been recognized one of the most innovative churches in america. You mentioned your washington. Dc it has one church. But you've got seven locations operates ebenezer's coffeehouse miracle theatre and the dc dream center. And i just learned that. You're developing something called capital turnaround. Tell me about that. Yeah it's about a mile from the capitol building itself. It was the eighteen ninety one navy yard car barn and so it was the turnaround for streetcars way. Back in the nineteenth century we purchased it for twenty nine million dollars. My gosh we've put about twenty million into it. It's a city block. And so it's where we gather as a church but it's also an event than you. A child development center is about to be open there which is one of the being needs in washington. Dc and then we'll have a marketplace and co working space. The interesting thing is those industries are being reimagined a little bit right now because of kovic now we feel like this is a moment for us to reimagine how we can create this place for our community. But that's what's keeping busy these days. Yeah well we'll come back to that in a second because of course back to your bio you are in new york times. Bestselling author written twenty books including the last time we spoke. We were talking about chasing the line. If your dream doesn't scare
Marisa Peer: I Am Enough
"One podcast to make you a better leader can also tune into us through google home or alexa by simply saying play. Dow barron podcast again. Thank you for sharing the show with everybody. You know all right. Let's strip it down and dive right in as a leader whether you are a ceo. Someone in the c. Suite sales leader entrepreneur leader in any capacity. Even even the most successful among goes. Phil can feel like ben not enough. Imposter syndrome is estimated to affect seventy percent. Seventy percent of high level leaders. What if you could increase massively. Increase your self worth so that you sincerely believed in yourself not on the surface but the depth of who you are whilst becoming permanently free from self sabotage nonsense that noise inside of our heads. That can often be there. What if as a result you're able to live happy motivated and confident life not summertime but all of the time well. Let's find out how you can do that. My guest on this episode is marissa marissa. Spent nearly three decades treating your client list that includes wait for international superstars. Ceo's olympic athletes. And even would you believe it royalty. She has an unparalleled career speaking internationally in working with private clients. She has helped thousands of people to annoy over.
Jan 25: The Word of Year is....Momentum
"It is monday which means it's time for after hours and today. I want to talk about something that if you follow me on instagram. Patrick j mcginnis. If you haven't seen it go check it out. You will notice that. We've been talking about a concept kind of the word of the year which is momentum. And i wanna talk about why that is because i thought a lot about what every year i try to come up with something i want to focus on as you know. I don't like resolution. So i try to come up with a high kind of high level concept. I'm not good at the details. High level concept that i can focus on throughout the year and this year i went back to an oldie but goodie which is momentum's now as i was thinking about that. It reminded me of something that i lived through. That has been meaningful to me. And why momentum is important. Because i've always been somebody who believes the momentum. I was always somebody who i ran out the door every morning. I am constantly in movement. I'm very energetic person. And so moving forward feeling momentum feeling. I'm getting somewhere in. Life is something that's really important to me. And when i don't have momentum i feel i don't feel very good and i think a lot of us can relate to that feeling of being stuck which been feeling this year. It just feels like your life is going nowhere and so regaining. Momentum is so critical to what everybody's going to be doing this year as we sort of start to resume life now when it comes to regaining momentum. This is not my first time around the block back in two thousand and eight as some of you know. I was working on wall street. The financial crisis came my company. Blew up g. My stock fell ninety seven percent. Basically we just just waited for so many to buyer division or something. We didn't know what was going to happen. So we were stock from two thousand and eight to about two thousand and ten. Our division was in a process of basically being sold. And so we couldn't do all that much. We try to do our jobs but it was just hard because there was so much uncertainty. And so i remember just feeling stuck and stagnant and i didn't take it while it all and i ended up eventually leaving that job and then trying to start my own thing and get going but it wasn't happening. It just wasn't happening. I was trying everything. I hadn't found my mojo yet and so i felt lost and stock and i felt like i didn't have much momentum and in fact that's around the time that i started for the first time actually doing any yoga and meditation kind of stuff and i had never really thought of myself as that kind of person but i had Taken a little time off. Gone on sabbatical in spain. When i came back and i decided to give it a try but i was really intimidated so i went to my local gym and i said listen you have kind of a beginner class and they actually put me in this class with this guy who is using his fifties maybe and he had a big pot belly but this guy could stretch unbelievable and so he was great because he met me where i was and helped me get going and you know by the end of the summer and and in the end of the year i was doing the head stands and really seeing progress and i was seeing a lot of improvement in my flexibility in my health. My mental sort of state but every time in those classes when we would start the class they would always say set. An intention and i always had the same intention. it was because i felt stock. I felt like other than my yoga. Practice not much was moving forward in my life and so i would always say momentum focus a momentum and that was the word and i did that for a number of years and then as all of the things that i was doing in my professional life and personal life start to move forward again from that negative experience. I remember a couple years later getting really busy. And i'm good. I'm momentum now. I've hit the momentum. Now i just need i guess serenity or something like that so i started to think okay now. You're going a little crazy. Calm down a little bit. And and that's what i did. And so just knowing what momentum felt like after not having it made me appreciate it so much more but also made me realize you have to control it. You can sort of just let momentum takeover without having some sense of what's important to you because then you get into fomo territory former territory and indecision and all the problems that we try to combat fomo sapiens. We are of course we are predisposed to these potential challenges so we need to fight them very aggressively from the outset. At qualcomm we believe in staying connected and you can see us wherever five g is helping transform telemedicine supporting remote education empowering mobile. Pc's the invention ages here. Learn more at qualcomm dot com slash invention age. Okay so that's good. I had all my serenity work in my favor. I felt my momentum. Everything was smooth and then twenty twenty comes around and all of a sudden screech. Not at all right. I mean there was no momentum. There was improvement. There was learning right. I felt like. I learned a lot in the process of being locked down and living pandemic and figure out what's important and all the kinds of things that many of us have been doing in the last year but i just kind of i mean let's face it you don't leave your house. How how can you have momentum and so that has been something that i think. Many of us have struggle with sorta like you had all these big plans right. I remember of course you know. You got the the old lockdown coming around and there was some tweet That was out there. That said that you know. Don't worry about lockdown. Because shakespeare road king lear when he was under quarantine and so you know i guess the rest of us should be writing are magnum opus. His well well. I don't know anybody who wrote a king lear while they were in their lock down a lot of people watch succession or watch the tiger king or meet some brad but there weren't that many people who did truly great things in their quarantine and that's okay is what it is but as we emerge into the world and we have the opportunity to regain momentum. This is a huge opportunity. And so as i think about momentum in twenty twenty one and i'll be about it and talking about it some i just wanna put it out there the way i think about it. Which is this. you've been stuck. You've been in one place you're gonna be able to move again but when you do that. Remember everything you learned. Remember the key things that you learned in twenty twenty right him down. Even you know. I'm a big believer in that as you know and try to keep those core values in your mind as you get going again so if one of the things you learn last year is you. Don't need to have seventy million friends. You wanna have ten really good friends. Don't try to resume your pre covid social life. If you learned that you need to get more sleep and you need to exercise and eat better again. Momentum doesn't mean you throw those things away and so that's what i'm going to focus on and i know it's going to happen. We're all gonna have these moments. We realize oh my goodness i've completely lost control. I remember there was a period this summer when things were really calm in new york and kobe cases were down and i went to four events in one night and that was normal for me at one point in my life but i just kinda jumped in a little too far deep into the pool loyalty much momentum and so that's what i'm going to work on focusing on for twenty twenty one so i would love to hear what you're thinking. What is your word or concept of the year. How are you thinking about reentry into normal life because listen who knows what it's going to look like but it will certainly be better than it is right now it just has to be with vaccines coming and with weather getting better. We're going to see we're going to see rays of hope so think about that you can contact me at. Let's connect at patrick mcguinness dot com. Reach me on. Twitter mcginnis on instagram at patrick mcguinness. I love hearing from you. And if there's anything particularly cool or interesting. I will share it here and your questions are always welcome. We can from here in after hours until next week. Take care fomo fo- savings and after hours head over to foam savings dot com. Listen to past episodes. Learn more about the show and find out how to advertise. You can also connect with me on instagram. at patrick. j mcginnis on twitter pj mcginnis.
Ep 228: How do you know if you can trust the leadership advice you hear?
"You get a more effective leader. We've never really as a workforce spent a lot of time on making sure what developing leaders will be able to share stories experience. Mistakes failures successes packing your leadership. Welcome to hacking your leadership. I'm chris. I'm lorenzo and lorenzo in this episode. I wanna talk about something that has been kind of bothering me recently. And that's it that there. There's a lot of noise out there when it comes to anything now because we we get we get our information from so many different sources and a lot of places they're kind of litmus test that you can use to decide whether or not something is credible you know obviously something that you something on you know. Abc nbc cbs news. You probably can give that a little bit more credibility than something you read on facebook. You know And there's kind of like in general you. You have a hierarchy of credibility. But i don't see a lot of that in the leadership space and there's no shortage of people who are self proclaimed experts in their field. You know top consultants for this bestselling authors for that. You know i mean. We had a series last year year and a half ago about the the ten best leaders you know for their time and a lot of them. They were experts in their time but but if they did the same thing today they would not be in the top of their field. They would not be an expert anymore you know. And so be people change. And because the the needs of the workforce is the needs of the people change employees employees change. It seems like the credibility or the veracity of the of the data. That's out there on people who want to be better leaders and where they should look seems to be changing it. You have you. Have you run into something where you read something or watch something or or saw something. That was supposedly brilliant when it came to the art of leadership. And you went. That doesn't make any sense. And you kind of know from personal experience that it's not doesn't make sense and then you start to wonder how many other millions of people are seeing this and they don't have the context that i have like how. How does that work for you. You know it's funny that you mentioned that. I think that in general kind of the the shotgun approach of content from social media is such that. There's a lot out there. there's a lot of it. Sounds right in in the idea until you start to pull back some of the layers inconsiderate. There's a lot of that is recycled from other people in. It's a great conversation. Because i didn't even share this with you but i really was thinking about highlighting video That i watched the other day on youtube from a self proclaimed leadership coach leadership person. You know a lot of a lot of Like i don't know if fifty thousand subscribers videos with tens of thousands of hundreds of thousands of us. And i was doing research. I was doing research for our youtube channel and i was like what's out there. What do i see. What do i like our people. Approaching the content is it formal. Is it informal doing all this type of stuff. And i'm just searching you know For different leadership type of content and came across this video. And i was about halfway through it and i was like what is this person talking about like this whole video idea about helping up and coming leaders in the advice they were giving them. It felt like he like he heard her. He saw something he thought. There was a detachment to leadership there and then like he hit record and just started like rambling about this and it was very aggressive and it was like it was it was really really like Had to stop it. And i was like like hopefully the by the end of this video. He's gonna bring this around or he's gonna talk about something here we're like what he was doing was different than what he wanted to end it with. And that wasn't the case in in. So i share this. Because what you're saying like there's there's a lot of advice out there. There's a lot of people that talk about. Leadership and leadership theory in while sometimes bits and pieces of it makes sense if you don't have the full context if you don't have the full idea of what this person is trying to share with you explain to you. It can lead you down a really bad path. They'll even outside of whether or not the person is is full of bs or not. Just that advice itself could be damaging if you try to implement something like that so just as an example of of what. I'm seeing a lot more of its out there. So one khanna follow up question on that is this advice where if you put yourself back in the
The Debrief w/ Jocko and Dave Berke #12: Find Out Where The Team is Out of Alignment
"The debrief podcast episode. Twelve with dave burke in me jouko willing dave. Let's debrief right on saturday. Client call me actually just recently. This was a A call ahead from two senior executives with company. We've been working with for actually like two years one of our longest range clients and so they called me in the description they gave me was. They've been working through a communication problem. They had with these two senior executives with a subordinate manager. Laid out the situation. This is an it company. That kinda solves problems who software and their client. Base comes in. They figure out what the problem is. They bill offer solution for them and give it back to him. And we've been working with their executive team for a while. These two folks specifically have been really good with the principals. They've been embracing them. They've been using them. And and this whole idea of ownership from the beginning has been something that's been working well with them so the problem they were describing to me. Was this manager. That one of the managers worked for them was communicated to from a client client reach out to him and said hey. I'm looking for information on how you can solve. This problem would cost. And how quickly could you turn this problem around to a solution and this request and other requests like this had been going unanswered by manager which to them was just. It was borderline impossible to understand why this was continuing to happen. And each time this this situation would arise the viewed as what are they doing wrong. How are they not communicating correctly. Howard not conveying the message. How are they not getting this manager to basically do the things that they they wanted him to do and the frustration was is they were kind of running out of ideas and how to change the way they were communicating. What really in the minors kind of a simple thing. This aligned with the conversation that you and i had had someone recently not just with each other with another client. Which was this communication issue or this issue that fit under the umbrella of the simple law. Actually the wasn't necessarily communication problem. What it really was and we talked about this. As more of a problem of alignment so we kinda took a step back and the conversation was hey. Let me hear how you're explaining it but the real issue is. Why do you think this manager isn't answering. What appears to be very very simple questions. And then we started to kind of peel back. A little bit about the alignment so these two executives. They're really their primary role. Their responsibility is to really grow the company. They're the ones that bring in the clients. They're the ones that have to forecast. Hiring long range strategic objectives. Where do we see ourselves. How do we get to be things. From revenue operating costs all the things the manager underneath them his real sole responsibility is just servicing the clients that he has. He's a salary guy he doesn't get bonuses and so i think what was going on as there is a disconnect between the strategic objectives from the senior executives and the objectives at this manager had about what they should be doing the the deeper part of this. That was why this was such an important conversation. Is that it was one of my first one of the first times. I saw that the principles themselves. I won't get won't give you the answer that you're looking for so if you view this justice a communication problem the way i communicate with you and i keep looking at myself. What am i doing differently. What am i doing differently. It what i needed to definitely. It doesn't matter how communicate if you are misaligned. How articulate. I am or clearly. I'm in my own mind if you and i are going in different directions what i say is never going to get to the outcome that i want and so the cool part about that was that when they took a little bit of a step back the real question. They should have been asking what we needed to ask was. Where are we out of alignment. What is it that getting us to be moving in different directions so rather than view this as a communication problem. This was in alignment problem. Of course that opened up a whole conversation about how do we align and at the at the lowest level of the conversation there is missing linebacker because as manager in his own mind doesn't have a connection of a. Why would i prioritize bringing in new clients that. I don't have a particular benefit to that that i can understand. No matter of fact. I have a negative benefit can bring in more clients have to do more work getting salary so it doesn't really matter. Why would i want to return these calls. And and this manager wasn't like going out of his way to not answer these calls. They were just going into the list of things to do way down at the bottom because he had always other things going. On course senior executives had this different perspective and really all it was was the solution that the implemented was to talk to the manager and go. Hey let's take a step back. What is it that you as a manager. and what is your team. seizes the long range object. What is it that you guys are trying to accomplish and it didn't take very long to realize. Hey there's a clear connection between this manager's responsibilities and the success of the company it just happened to be a little bit of a step above where his focus was so when he was prioritizing executing or thinking about things he was going to work on answering external client calls soliciting for information simply wasn't making the day to day cut. And these calls were going. These questions are going unanswered for days. Sometimes weeks at a time so the cool part about that. Is this idea of finding alignment for me when we talked about this. It was nice to make the connection between the principle itself. Sometimes won't solve your problem. But if you have this kind of narrow view of hey i need to take ownership. The problem is me. The problem is communication. You can kind of bang your head against the wall and never get to the conclusion because the way that they perceive this problem with not explaining what they should be doing. Well or what what he should be doing well and what they actually do. Explain how what the priorities are much more easily understood if we can both be a line and what we're actually trying accomplish in the big picture it makes sense. Yeah and it's I mean this is a decentralized command actually is completely wrapped up in the principles of hey we all need to know what the mission is that we all need to know what the mission is. Now you know what this is that when we get to my turn. I'm definitely gonna talk about alignment and talk about agendas and was talk about all those things and how they fit together but what i find
Your Master Plan: Chris Wilson
"I found the mouse. The plan is actually more effective. And phil better when you incorporate other people and not just being transactional you do the right thing. If you care about a particular issue as you move forward in achieving your master plan i found it very powerful to other people and bring people love which you and not expect anything in return. Welcome to the icty. Ou creative confidence. Podcasts a series focused on building your confidence at work to tackle your biggest creative challenges. Join us as we learn insights and lessons straight from ideo and today's most impact oriented design. Thinking leaders allow everyone. Welcome to the creative confidence series. I'm suzanne gibbs howard your host. I'm the founder and dean of idaho. You and i went to welcome you to our creative confidence series podcast where we always have conversations with special guests on topics of creativity leadership innovation and growth. We always want to share things that we hope will inspire and equip you in your own work before we dive in today. I just want to take a moment to recognize that. This has been an incredible start to twenty twenty one a lot of complexity and last week really was an example another example of the systemic inequities that exist in this country and around the world. We want to be clear that these unapologetic displays of white supremacy are not what we stand for in this country and we really do not support anything like that in our universe and in this team myself the people around you who put together this podcast our community. We've been talking a lot about how to move forward. Positively to keep striving for change and some of the things we've been talking about are about listening even more closely about thinking even more critically about leading with empathy and most importantly perhaps digging deep for that resilience that we all need in order to keep moving forward with these changes. And so that's why today. I am so excited to introduce you to perhaps one of their most resilient people i've ever met in my entire life in that is chris wilson. So thank you chris. I'm so glad you're here. Welcome extra had excited. Chris is not only social entrepreneur. He's a businessman. He's an artist and he is the author of an incredible book that i highly recommend called the master plan it about his journey from a life imprison to live full of purpose. And so with chris. Today we're going to talk about where and how he stays. Resilience will talk about some of his principles for how he has made change against all odds and we will talk about healthy crystal help. Each of you get started on creating your own master plan as i thought crispy fun to get started with you with one of the questions that i know. You're kind of famous for asking people which is about their game. What is the question about the end game where it has come from so with the term of thinking about what. My endgame was many many years ago. I think i was around nineteen years old. I was at my lowest point. My rock bottom in my life. Every day that i had tried up into that point head worked out and i was at the lowest point but cool on knew that was a good person and i knew that i was intelligent. I love to read books. So i just started to imagine what my life could be like in the future and so thinking about what my gang would be. I knew i wanted to be Noor i knew. I wanted to be with travel the world and knew that i wanted to help people as so once. I figured out what the endgame was. I started to write down. All of the things working backwards started figuring out is saying it helped me get to let that game goal after. I'm working on it for over twenty years now. I love that idea of going to the big bold vision and then working backwards am who are some of the other people you ask about. When do you ask others this question out. What is their in game. So i ask everyone this question in a genuinely curious to whoever i come in contact with about. Are you thinking about because like once happening gain adding morning that you get up you should be working closer to being able to check that box and say this has been complete so when know that it just gives more purpose of meaning to the work that you do day by day wonderful we are gonna talk more about in games masterplans that it just a warm all of us up. We thought it would be great. It is january and a bright new year so we went to invite each of you chris. I do to write down a few thoughts about your endgame. You know ask yourself the question. What would it look like. If i'm wildly successful ten years from now would you want to be remembered for christopher some other things you tell people to do to get going on there and game. Will this stuff about experiences masterplans slash in game out. When i was very young and some of the stuff up put on. It was places that i wanted to visit so a master plan or in game like it should be balanced. Shouldn't be just like all work work. It was food that i never tried that. I wanted to taste. It was people that i wanted to help. And so a master plan should be ballots like that in that endgame as you work tolls it. It's actually fun dutiful. Yeah i'm gonna give you an a little of chris's background just to set the stage. Chris's been interviewed and captured many different podcasts and articles so i wanna get you guys up to speed so that we can really get into some of the good stuff so a little bit about chris. Chris grew up in extraordinarily difficult circumstances with poverty. Drug addiction abuse. Violence was common in his community in washington dc where he grew up with these incredibly challenging life circumstances. Chris turned down more violent path and at seventeen he committed. A crime was convicted and was sentenced to spend the rest of his natural life in prison while in isolation chris shared with us that that and due to the influence of if you really positive people in his life he committed to becoming a not only a better person turning his own life around but also on the path of doing that help many others who came from a similar background in a similar childhood. So this is what his master plan was all about. He's already told you. Some of the things in it but other things that i caught my eye were he wanted to build a business empire. He wants to be a lifelong learner and to continue to help others all along the way also notably while in prison. Chris not only earned a high school diploma associate's degree in sociology. He taught himself multiple foreign languages. He was a mentor. He started a career center. Book clubs all of these things in after kris rates. Sixteen and a half years in prison. He finally successfully convinced a judge that he was rehabilitated and he could return to society because he was a changed man and then after that he has still continued to fight against so many odds to develop to be a a serial social entrepreneurs. Chris i wonder if you could share with this community. Some
You're Going Somewhere. Are You Going Where You Want to Be Going?
"This is the jaakko underground podcast number. Four with echo. Charles in me jaakko willink good evening echo. Also joining us. Good deal dave good. Evening gave all right. Let's get into the topic of the day. So i know we. We recorded a podcast earlier today. About the marine corps document and Called competing and i of through some stuff at you today. Kind of the in that opening talking about this this leadership and influence continuum so i had neck issues my neck menaka had. I had a problem with my neck. I had woke up one day. This was years ago. I woke up one day and couldn't move. My right arm didn't move So so imagine that you wake up and you can't be right arm. Had some so mean went to the doctor and they started figuring out what to do. Because i had basically some problems in my neck that was causing friction on the nerves. That control my right arm. So i had to do some physical therapy in of and eventually it said they said you know you're gonna need to get surgery to fix this problem. Okay so They gave me basically two options. Well one option was. Don't get surgery in your the longer. It's in this condition the worst chance. It has of recovering. So that's not good but you can't do it if you don't wanna take any chances of getting surgery so the two options so one was called a frame anatomy which they go in through the back of your neck and they basically chip away at some bone and they give the they give some breathing room for your nerves. The other one they gave is the other option. They gave us get a fusion where they go off the front of your neck and they basically carve a bunch of bone out and then they fused your neck together so they can't move that one is considered to be the has has a superior result m- most of the time it's also the last. It's also the last resort. Also you can't escalate from there the other one if you let's say you got the frame and the one going through the back and it didn't go well. I didn't have the impact that you wanted to to have. Well then you could go well. It didn't really work the way i wanted to now. I wanna get the other one so you at least had one more option so as i considered this actually there was a. There's the you talk through the possible problems that you could have one of the problems and this was back in the day so one of the problems that you can have when you get a fusion going through the interior of your neck of the your neck when they're going in there they're close to your vocal cords and they can cut your vocal cords and you can't talk anymore which back then. It's kind of scary to think now. Since the only thing i do for a living is talk. That would not have been cool. And i was thinking at the time. Well i i'm in a leadership position. I need to be able to talk to people that could be a problem. Also there's you can die. You know you can. They can just screw up and you can just paralyze you or they can kill you so as i'm talking to the doctor. Who was the best neurosurgeon in the milit- in the navy on the west coast at the time he was the really skilled guy and i you know he said so. You die you this. And that. And i said yeah you know what are the chances i mean what i said. How many how. Many sides are on that dice. Though said like ten thousand and he goes about two hundred. I said to myself. That's okay not exactly what i wanted to hear. But then i told him i said hey. Listen if i can if my friends can get hit with giant pieces of shrapnel flying through the air and live. I'm sure you would a scalpel on sterilized. Surgery table you can make this happen. And so i ended up choosing the frame and autumn me to go in through the back and the main reason why i chose it is because you can escalate from there i had room to maneuver right. I there was some place to go. If the fusion front fusion doesn't get the desired result. You're just stuck with no with with that. That's what you're stuck with so we don't want to paint ourselves into a corner. As far as i can tell i never wanna pay myself with. Do co. corner. I never wanna leave myself without any options. I don't want to dig in to a particular position. I want to be in a situation. That i can't get out of and this is why it's such a strange thing because that should be your attitude. As far as i'm concerned. I don't know i'm in my opinion. Your attitude should be. I don't want to be stuck in a position. She feel to feel wrong. If you're trapping yourself in a position which is weird because there's a counter to that. Which is you have to be super determined right you have to be. You have to be super determined