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A highlight from Ep. 397 - Grappling with the Hawthorns
"Consider buying a copy of my book in defense of plants, an exploration into the wonder of plants, some of our customizable merch or our stickers. They make great stocking stuffers, or just gifts in general for the botany in your life, and it helps keep the show up and running. I couldn't be doing it without everyone that supports the show financially. So thank you to everyone that's done it and consider doing it if you haven't. But today is a very special episode because it's a group of trees that I've been meaning to tackle on this podcast for quite some time and I found the perfect person to do it. We are talking about the hawthorns, the genus critiques, and if you grew up trying to identify plants, you picked up, say, a Peterson's guide, you flip to the hawthorn section, you go, oh, there's not really a treatment in here. They just kind of say, well, they're confusing. And here's some general leaf shapes, but good luck. And then you're just kind of set adrift in a sea of botanical confusion. Well, that did not dissuade botanist Ron Lance from taking a deep dive into this genus. And truly helping us understand the genus critiques a lot better. And in far more detail, as you're going to hear Ron got bitten by the bug early and he hasn't looked back since and he has made major contributions to our understanding of this genus. Ron is the kind of botanist I absolutely love talking with. He's got so many great insights and context to put plants in their place and he's a true believer of Noah plant. You got to grow that plant. But I don't want to steal any more of his thunder. Let's just jump right into it without further ado. Here's my conversation with Ron Lance. I hope you enjoy. All right, Ron
A highlight from Episode 245: houseplant botany with Dr Scott Zona
"Into the plant kingdom, accompanied by an expert guide. Botanist doctor Scott zona. He's here to reveal some of the secrets of his new book a gardener's guide to botany. And I've got a response about fluvial stratum for the Q&A section. I've always been a great advocate of learning as much as you can about your plants, hence the botany strand of this hair podcast. So I was delighted to get a copy of the new book by doctor Scott zona, called a gardener's guide to botany. And I liked it so much. I did a blurb on the back of the book for him. And he's joining me this week to tell me all about the book, how we all need to venture deeper into the plant kingdom. To understand our plants, but also because it's really super fascinating. And helps us look after our plants better, which is also really vital. My name is Scott zona. And I'm coming to you from hillsborough, North Carolina. Good morning, Scott. Well, it's very morning for you right now. Thank you. For a great talk to me about your new book, which I'm very excited about. It's called a gardener's guide to botany. And this is much needed. I mean, actually, I should say from the outset I'm actually quoted on the back cover. So I decided, and I do say, this is the book I've been waiting for. This is a must read for all gardeners who want to expand their knowledge of understanding the plants they grow. And I stand by that. I think, you know, as anyone who's listened to the show for a while will know, this is one of the things I'm passionate about is educating people about botany. And I learned loads from reading this book. I have to say, so I'm sure listeners will too. Why do you think though, that it's important for us like me and other inadvertent commerce amateur, which I kind of I'm not sure about that word, but hobby growers, why do we need to know about this stuff in the first place? And what kind of things can people expect to learn from your book? Well, I think as with anything in life, knowledge is power. So knowing plants knowing how they grow knowing what they're doing, I think translates into making us better growers. That's at least that's kind of my hope, but it also, I think learning about plants connects us to our plants and I would also hope that it would connect us to the natural world in general, the natural world outside our homes because, you know, we need to care about that. And I also find that learning something is, I don't know, maybe sort of keeps me young. I learn loads while I was doing the research and writing the book. So it satisfies some curiosity. And I think that's a good thing. Absolutely. I mean, as you say, if you can just understand what's going on with your plant and how the basic processes are working, it helps enormously I find. And in the intro to the book, you talk about this idea of going into the plant kingdom. And exploring it. And I love that idea that you could actually kind of imagine yourself heading into this amazing plant filled domain kind of a metaphor, but also kind of literally too. But it's trying to be that for a lot of people this is a mystery domain, a place where we don't necessarily know as much as we should. Have you come across any sort of misconceptions along the way of teaching people about botany about how plants work that have made your eyebrows raise? Oh yeah. Loads. And, you know, for me, it's kind of hard to imagine not being interested in plants. I've been growing plants since I was 6 years old. And but over the years, teaching courses, botany courses, I would be out in usually in the botanical garden, looking at plants, and I'd be talking about it. And students would be, you know, there'd be a dozen students, and they'd all be like 6 feet back. And this was before social distancing, you know? They'd be way back there, and I'd be talking about the smell of the plant. And they, you know, if somebody was telling me about the smell of my nose would be right in there, but you know, there are a couple of students would come forward and smell the plant, but most of them would kind of hang back, and they seemed very, I don't know, maybe fearful of the plants or some sort of, I don't know, out to get them poisonous, delicate, I don't know. And I think for a lot of students, that's, you know, it takes a little effort to kind of overcome this idea that plants are something you look at, but don't touch. And then also, for some people, I think plants are just sort of the green backdrop of life.
A highlight from Ep. 396 - The Secrets of Seagrass Pollination
"Is your host Matt. Welcome to the show. How is everyone doing this week? Today we're heading into the ocean to talk about marine biology with doctor Vivian solace Weiss. She studies benthic organisms like crustaceans and worms. Why is she on this podcast you might be asking? Well, along with her colleague, they have discovered a unique pollination syndrome going on under the ocean involving seagrass, worms, and other kinds of crustaceans. It's mind-blowing and it's opening up a door to a bunch of diversity and coevolutionary dynamics that no one knew existed up until about a decade ago, but I don't want to steal any of her thunder. This is a fascinating story of how passion drives discovery and open so many new doors into scientific inquiry. So let's just jump right into it without further ado. Here's my conversation with doctor Vivian solace Weiss. I hope you enjoy. All right, doctor Vivian solace Weiss. Thank you so much for coming on the podcast. I can't tell you how excited I am to talk about your research today. But first, let's start off with an introduction. Tell everyone a little bit about who you are and what
A highlight from Episode 244: visiting the National Collection of Hoyas
"Well, a very fine day to you all and in this week's show, I'm going to be visiting the national collection of hoyas in Newcastle, curated by the wonderful Felix horne. And I'll answer a question about a languishing lime. Love that a languishing lime. Alliteration, you just can't beat it. Thanks for joining me this week. It's episode two 44. And I do hope this audio is finding you in a reasonable state. Now if you've listened to on the ledge for any length of time, you will probably know that I'm quite keen on hoyas, so no surprises, there are a couple of Hoya episodes coming up in the next few weeks in the first of those is this episode. I traveled to Newcastle to meet Felix horne. Who holds the national collection of the Hoya genus here in the UK. What's a national plant collection? You may ask. Well, this is UK charity that helps to conserve plants by gathering together plants of a particular genus and looking after them. And the people looking after them are a huge range of volunteers who study them, keep great records and generally keep the flame alive for their plant of choice and in the case of Felix horn that happens to be Hoya. So whether you're a Hoya fan or a Hoya disbeliever, I have a feeling that after listening to Felix, you may want a few of these wonderful epiphytic plants. And if you hear a little bit of noise in the background during the interview, most likely it's one of Felix's two cats, one of whom. Got very interested in our chat and joined in delightfully. So a little bit of extra action there for you, cat lovers. My name's Felix horn. I'm the national collection holder for who is. We're here in your house Felix and I'm feeling the whole love here. I mean, how did this come about? I seem to remember seeing the call out from the national collections people saying, we need somebody for Hoya, presumably you just were alerted to that and thought this is for me. Yeah, pretty much. I am very naively. But I could do that. I mean, yeah, so my mom had grown a whole year, which I'm sure lots of people can relate to. That we've had growing in our House when I was little in it, floured all the time and it smelled amazing. And then it's just suddenly stopped flowering and got pushed further and fit in the back in her collection and then kind of forgotten about and then I think probably just before COVID hit I could start collecting them myself and kind of like rediscovered them so when I saw the cool go out she gets to write just magazine and when I saw that Cole go out I was like oh I could do that. And here we are I don't know how long ago that was, but you've got a collection of horrors presumably growing all the time. One of the things I find fascinating about who is just the diversity of this genius there are just so many interesting variations on the theme of the ones that you've got in this particular room. Are there any that are your absolute favorites, you're going to be taking from the house as you go to your desert island? I've got a sunrise off the top of my head I can't remember what its parent plants are but it is a cultivar cross breed and that one I think is really beautiful just with it. So often when joy is have the visible veins there are darker than the rest of the leaf in sunrise as the other way around. And it has this really beautiful flowers that smell amazing as well. And probably lacking those there is always a really safe back that flower is really pretty profusely and has gorgeous flowers. The centered flowers as well. But then I think we're probably most favorite one in here is also the most pathetic one. But it's the one that has its most actively been trying to die on me for three years and that is my Hoya Archibald Yana. I got that as a two leaf cutting that one of the leaves then died and then I spent two years trying to stop the rest of it from dying and then this year it finally rewarded me by growing ten years and all that time. And it's not like it has a grand total of three leaves. With who is it's kind of like it's one of these things where when you have hear those stories, people who don't grow hoyas are like, I mean, why are you getting so excited? But when you've grown boys and you know how that pain. Yeah, that was the one that I always wanted the most and I have no idea why it always really cool to me like it's fine it looks fine. But I don't know why just the fact that it just wanted to text so bad and I stopped it and it seems to be quite happy now. I'm never going to get flowers from it. I'll be lucky if I get like 5 years of it. And I've got other like other hoys in here that are just like huge and super prolific. I like to feel kind of bad for them. It's really poised out competing a lot of them. One of the things you were telling me before I started recording was about growing for the national collection and how you try to as far as you can emulate what listeners rooms might be like rather than growing them into a rarefied environment where you're sort of tweaking humidity and stuff. These are in a regular room and as are the vast majority of your collection. Why is that that you want to kind of promote that kind of growing? Well, I mean, I don't know if it's standard for national collection holders, but I feel like part of what your role is is growing plants for the nation, like that the nation could grow. So one of the things I do is I don't import plants from outside the UK because that seems to be outside of my remit, but also what's the point of having all of these plants if I'm the only person that can grow them, you know, and so I've got a few more specialists areas that are like quote unquote ideal settings for a plant to grow and be I'll also have copies of that plant growing in say like your bathroom or somewhere else to see if they can grow in normal household conditions because you know it's expensive to do the specialist stuff and it's something that not a lot of people are going to have access to and I think that that shouldn't be a barrier for people to enjoy these really amazing plants. They're like, yeah, they should be for everybody. Yeah, but I think that's a really good point. I mean, you have got an Ikea cabinet here or some kind of cabinet of his Ikea ones.
A highlight from Fall and Winter Fragrance With Ken Druse-A Way to Garden With Margaret Roach November 21, 2022
"Many fragrances the plant world can offer, which is our topic today, hi Ken, I'm ready for some nice fragrances. I'm glad Margaret because I know that you have a what is it lower bad sent I do. I have a very perceptive little nose. And so since if I like them, it's fine, but boy. Yeah, but it's funny because, you know, you can come inside and, you know, it's dry and it's hot, you know, it's the heating season suddenly, we didn't have that until this past week where I am, and because it was unseasonably warm, but now it's kind of like, well, except when you're cooking, there's no real fragrance. Do you know what I mean? You're cooking. Here there is because I've got a couple of bowls filled with some unusual fruits. And they smell. Yeah, well, because you're so clever, you always remember to have those sort of almost like potpourri, right? The old days of potpourri. Oh, well. So these are really natural. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. We grow a tree called pseudocydonia, which is Chinese quince. And it has beautiful bark. It's sort of patchy like camouflage. And very late, it still has fall color. It still has almost all its leaves. And it has kind of not that pretty fruit, but the fragrance in the bowl, just you can smell it for about 30 feet away and thankfully it's very nice. But it's very complex. It's like hair with Apple and guava and citrus and violet all mixed up and it hits you like cilantro. You can almost feel it as you smell it. It's not one of my favorite fragrances. Yes. And we could talk about why that is because it's a whole big genetic thing. Yeah. But I just mean that in the way that cilantro, you can almost feel it. So this is a fragrance you can almost feel. And something else that we've been talking about that's so beautiful. I always get them for Ebola on the table in the fall, and then when they start to kind of go, and they last a long time, I moved them to where I got them so that they will be where they might grow, even though they're from the Midwest, and they grow here. Because the osage orange. Oh. It's also called head chapel. It was very popular as defense post material because the wood lasts a very long time. It's very hard wood and they used to make furniture out of it outdoor furniture even. But the fragrance of these bunny gnarly, they're almost like brains and they're gorgeous chartreuse color. Yeah, chartreuse brings the size of softballs. Almost a pound a piece. And they smell kind of like grapefruit and Ginger, but really it's indescribable. It's a wonderful, wonderful fragrance. So that's McClure. McClure. Do you say George? Apple. And so it's funny because the other day I sent you, I sent you the link, texted you the link or something like that. When I saw that Ned freed man, the director of the Arnold arboretum up at heart at Harvard university, he posted a video on Instagram or something posted a picture of in a crosswalk where there's a little button where if you want to cross, you press the button and there's a little metal box that has the button, don't walk, walk, et cetera. And above that on the top lip of the little box with the button, there was one of these osage orange is sitting at a screen brain, as you say, this hedge apple, sitting there, and he said, he's captioned with something like only at the Arnold arboretum. We know it's time to pick that up and put it there. But it is funny because you will see them sometimes at the roadsides. By where there are some trees, you know, you'll see a whole crop of on the ground. Yeah. I worked in Washington temporarily a couple of times and people hated them because they were planted as street trees. And the fruits used to fall on cars, and then the cars. To go back to that Chinese quince just for a second. So that's that plant is, where does it grow? What exactly? Because I think quince I think either a big shrub or a tree or something. So what is that again? It's a tree. Chinese quince. And quince, well, even the fruit quince has a very strange and wonderful kind of pair apple smell. And quinces are still used in perfumes, including spears, fantasy. And now do you grow the pseudo sidonia? Do you grow the Chinese quince treatment? Okay. Okay, and so it's not like where you like with the osage orange you find one somewhere and you grab it and use it for its enjoy it in its fragrance season. In a bowl or whatever. So this is something that you grow. Because it's a very beautiful tree. Oh. You know, it has patchwork like a cornice cusa, you know, that beautiful.
A highlight from 085 Real Christmas Tree Stories - Dr. Mel Koelling
"Your writings and reviews are always appreciated. Doctor kelling, what did the first Christmas tree come about? And how did it spread across the world? The use of greenery that is particularly Conifer, stock, the various species of conifers, which include pines and spruces and hemlocks and cypress and a number of others have always been somewhat attractive to individuals because in the winter they kind of defied the natural processes that were going on. That is when every other hardwood tree lost its foliage naturally, there was still these evergreen trees, hence the name that implies their green throughout the year, winter summer fall and spring. They were perceived by ancient cultures as having somewhat of a unique attribute and maybe some spirit components that were involved with that. There's history, historical events and accounts of Egyptians using palm branches and other evergreen foliage prior to the time of Christ. The earlier part of the current 80s series of centuries, palm branches were used and evergreen branches were used in somewhat mystical celebrations not so much for Christmas. In fact, I should say, not at all for Christmas, but for observance of the winter solstice, that was the darkest, shortest day of the year, and the beginning of winter, really. Here was a celebration that indicated after that things were going to be cold, and yet we still had these evergreen bowels that were going to be alive. It always had some mysticism and some history that was associated with the fact that it was an evergreen and a very dark time of the year. The origins of Christmas trees are a little bit varied on this, again, whether one has a secular point of view or perhaps a religious point of view, but Christmas matter of fact, very frankly, originally it was a Christian holiday, and it still is in the minds of many of us. It celebrates the birth of Christ, some of the tenets of what Christianity is all about. And one of the first observances of Christmas as a celebratory and use of Christmas trees is attributed to Martin Luther, Martin Luther was active in the 1500s, of course known for his 95 theses on the church door at wittenberg, also known for many of the hymns that we sang, including Luther's cradle hymn, which is a way in a manger. It is alleged that as a monk and a monastery in Germany, that in the winter, he used to stroll out in the countryside a little bit on the grounds around the monastery. And on one occasion on a winter night close to Christmas, he saw an evergreen tree, most likely a fir tree, the genus ABC, and it was adorned with small amounts of snow and the moon was out and it sparkled, and again he was made aware of the fact that here is a living tree in the midst of a dead winter scene, otherwise then because of nothing growing at that time of the year. He cut a tree, brought it inside and decorated it because it reminded him of one of the fundamental tenets of Christianity, which is eternal life, regardless of what the winter conditions are. There is an eternal life associated with Christmas. Was a tree that Martin Luther brought into a monastery originally, but it gained acceptance in that community and elsewhere among German inhabitants, German residents, and spread through other parts of Germany. It was adopted quite easily because it seemed to be so fitting for the occasion that they were celebrating. It came to the U.S. during the Revolutionary War with hessian soldiers who were fighting as mercenaries on the side of the British against the American colonists in the winter, the mercenaries, it is alleged, the sight of that it was Christmas. They were from Germany. It was time to cut it for a tree. They were in New England. They probably cut a balsam fur, adorned it with some ornaments of sort, makeshift, I'm sure, and celebrated Christmas. Since there were German immigration numbers that were quite impressive in the late 1700s and earlier on in the 1800s, the others who came into eventually United States utilize the Christmas season and started that with the Christmas tree. Stayed kind of as a quaint folksy image among German immigrants for quite a while. Eventually in the 1850s the president, who I think at that point was the first to do this, put a Christmas tree in The White House. That gained popularity. After that it moved out of New England into Pennsylvania, the Pennsylvania Dutch, so to speak, and it was widely practiced there after the tree was displayed in The White House and there began to be a commercial market for natural Christmas trees. There are some accounts of trees being cut in the catskill mountains of New York and were transported down to Manhattan and what later became all of New York City. Those were for sale. Picked up as other immigrants came across and was adopted and finally became an American tradition, but it owed it origin back to the German mercenaries who fought on behalf of the British, they brought it to the United States and it has spread since that point.
A highlight from 084 - Pearce Butcher - Designing Beautiful Functional Outdoor Living Spaces
"Space that's is to going to make make that them want to space spend more an time out inviting there. We've gone through space a great adventure that's going over to the last couple make of them want to years. spend more Have you time out seen there. We've gone through a great adventure over the last couple of years. Have you seen a lot of changes in the outdoor spaces? Definitely, I've seen a lot more pools. I feel like at least in my area, there are a lot of people wanting to put pools in their backyard and these pool companies have been backed up for months since they weren't traveling. They wanted to create more of that outdoor oasis in their own backyard because they weren't allowed to go anywhere. And I feel like it truly bumped up our design work on hyperdrive because they weren't spending money on vacations. If they still had their job, they had money to spare. And so everyone was wanting to invest in their outdoor spaces during the pandemic. Told us that when you talk with a client that you ask them, how do they want to use their spice? Could you walk us through what you follow that up with and in how you develop the design from now? Yeah, absolutely. So for example, I had a client who lived in a fairly new home. The first thing they said to me was they wanted to put a pool in the backyard. So we met in their backyard. I asked them, what else would you like to have back here? And they mentioned they wanted to shed. They wanted some covered face because they didn't have any covered patio space outside, wanted a fire pit and an outdoor kitchen. And then they wanted a bathroom. So that's a lot of different elements to add in one small ish space. It wasn't a very large backyard and they had two very active dogs, so we needed to leave some loan for those dogs. So my first goal is to figure out the scale of each of those spaces, like how big they need to be for how many people are going to be using them, and then how best those spaces fit in that backyard, and then all tied together. Where's the gate in the backyard? Where's the views from the most used spaces inside when you're standing in that space? What are you looking at? How many other houses around me are looking down into that space? And how can we best position each of those different elements together and then in that backyard so that they all flow together? One of my main goals too is to keep the main traffic flow open and not create any bottlenecks or pitch points in that landscape and really make it flow together nicely. Could you tell us how you discover the big idea for a client? After I get all that information from the client with all the different elements they'd like to see in their dream backyard. I like to start big. Maybe we need to drop the grade down here and create a berm here to help with privacy. Maybe we need to create a much bigger pool pavilion so that we can fit a kitchen and a seating area out there. I really like to play with the grade in the backyard. If there is a grade change to make that grade work for the landscape and make it help to find those spaces instead of it being an afterthought of coming in and be like, oh shoot, well now we have 12 inch drop and how are we going to make this landscape work but actually using that grade to our advantage to really help either create privacy or define the different outdoor rooms back there? A lot of times that's when I'll bring in a contractor and be like, okay, this is my big idea. Do you think this is possible? Is there something that you can see during the construction process that I might not be able to see is just the designer. Remember, there was one property in the north main area of Greenville, which is this really beautiful historic area north of downtown. It was one of those older homes that had been renovated all throughout the probably hundred years since it had been built, and their driveway went up and there was a retaining wall up against their screen porch. I brought the contractor in. I'm like, okay, what if we actually drop this driveway down and move this retaining wall over to the property line so that we're opening up that Supreme Court and it truly changed the whole space. He came and he was like, yep, let's do it. I just gotta pull this one permit. They even had to move some power lines in order to make it happen. Really did change the space to drop that grade out the back of the house and create this much more livable and usable space around the house. Things like that, bringing in the contractor to say, okay, here's my big idea. Is it possible? And getting their feedback on things like that. These are all way before you choose any plants to go in there. Yeah, absolutely. I like to make the analogy of, if I'm going to build a house, I'm not going to go pick out throw pillows first. I'm going to really decide who's going to be using this house. How many people wear in your family? What's your floor plan? Before you ever pick up paint colors or your kitchen countertops, you're going to nail down exactly what floor plan you want for your house.
How Do I Know When to Bring in Pots This Fall?
"Denise send us an email to read at plan talk radio dot com and denise says hi fred. This is my first year gardening. So congratulations to you. And i was wondering how do i know which potted plants to bring indoors when the temperatures start to drop or do i just leave them out over the winter. I'm in zone seven. Thank you okay. No her circumstances are different. I'm going to guess she's probably from Well darn close or even south of the ohio river etc and this gives her different options. We would have here at central. Ohio are certainly north except for people that are having a wonderful display from there Mimosa tree right now that that's just Uncommon good luck or he's being extremely careful but anyhow as to denise. I hope she kept the tags. I hope the tags would have indicated whether these are tropicals or not for example. We made mention his hibiscus again. This this time There is a tropical hibiscus. That's absolutely magnificent. Ina pot indoors in the wintertime. now it's can be out all summer. They're they're full of glorious flower colors. There are many many of them. However here you would have to take that plant in For the winter because the top and the root zone in the container probably would freeze So she might be able to keep a high viscous of the tropical nature outdoors over winter. I would say it's it's pretty if it because where she's zone seven zero to ten above and anything Anything of a tropical nature is not going to like it. Below twenty-eight a book yeah now the reason i say twenty eight is. There's there's some latitude on some plants to live through freezing if it's a light freezing.
The Study of Horticultural Taxonomy
"All right. Matthew reese it's great to have you on the podcast. It's an honor to be here but before we begin. Let's start off by telling everyone a little bit about who you are and what it is you do. Hi everybody thinks so. Much on the podcasts. Listening for years now a huge fence. Thanks kudos the a setting this up in keeping it going so long. Yes oh my. Name's matthew reese on the ball tennis and i worked for the royals cultural society. Which is your chess. Shoot all the largest. Uk charity dedicated to gardening. We have about five and a half million members across the country. So yeah that's quite a big number. And so i work in the hold cultural taxonomy team in the science department and i spit raw between plant authentications research on ecosystem services of cultivated plants awesome. I'm really excited to talk to you about your work today but before we jump into the meat of it. What got you interested in. Plants is something you've always had in your life or did you kind of come to it later on through some sort of gardening experience or educational career kind of thing. Yeah it was. I will always love being outside in spending time in nature. I was a kid. We used to spend a lot of time in my grands like area Forest which is actually a site of special scientific interests of only learned that recently back then now makes sense. Spending a lot of time in the forest was was amazing. I'm not really gifted in terms of the actually dropped out of school quite early on no sentencing before finishing my back. More at at this point may specify the native english. I spend most of my life confronts My parents are english. I've been brought up in greenwich in france for about twenty five years. We'll say. But yes. I said so. I kind of dropped out of school. Early wasn't really sure what. I was going to do with my life and ended up traveling to costa rica. Actually where i spent months. And that's why i volunteered. For attorney golden
What's Wrong With My Tomato Plants?
"David is having some real trouble with tomatoes. He says his tomato leaves are wilting. At the very top of the leaf and then a few days later they start turning a botchy blotchy black and then about a week after that. They start dying altogether. He's lost forty tomato plants this way and he wants to know what you think he can do about it now. His problem and mine are very different. And i i laugh only because the difference mine were just flat out eating. They were perfectly healthy. Not a spot on them now. David's problem is very different and it sounds like he may have a problem with them. Called sectorial league spot I kind of wish. I could talk to david at this point but at the same time. I have to make some assumptions. I'm going to guess that in that you have to deal with prophylactic in in considering containing many many diseases you have to prevent it. That's the big word. Prevention starts by buying plants. That have been what's called indexed for v f and that's virus cerium wilt and nematodes and that on top of those three comes one called sectorial leaf spot. And it's a plant where i'm going to bet. David got a busy Started his seedlings either indoors or planted. The seeds early they grew like topsy. We had plenty of moisture in sunshine. This spring for them to just have really rebelled. Now then that makes for a plant has softer skin so to speak which is good in many ways however it allows or organic disease germs. If you will to jump onto them start to grow enter through the softer skin or or flashier leaf if you will and away. They go when he lost that many. I'm going to bet he's using the same spot in the garden for them. More than one year that could leave toria spores right there waiting to get into a new plant each year.
Baked Pears, Listener Calls, Harvesting Garlic, and Chestnuts
"Hey joel hello. It's a beauty out there today. Very nice yeah. And i hope to get up and spend a little time in the garden this afternoon myself. So interesting experience The my son. Jake and his wife nikki where the place we rented has a bunch of Pear trees and we noticed that the pears were dropping. You know it's sort of like apples. Early ones drop and the friday night. I came home to dinner. They had made. And one of the things they made was baked pairs. And these were the dropped pairs. It came down and they weren't more than maybe two inches or maybe three and i was so surprised. I sorta figured well. They were hard and and really unusable but they had they had cut them down through the stem and the seeds. The long way opened them up. They put him in a in a big baking pan and put on now. Oh butter and some honey and put them in the oven. Three fifty for about I think they figured it was about forty minutes and all because they kept baking them and they were absolutely fantastic. They were you know big pairs and i would never have thought. Those little hard pairs would would be edible at all but they turned out to be absolutely delicious and they topped it off. with maple syrup and a little brown sugar of course and that helped but they were absolutely delicious terrific. I did that one year. And i actually could do it again. Now because tapani. The place. Where i where i lived. I mean literally off the huge development behind me and all around me and all that but it used to be an orchard out there and yell it's bay and so there are a lot of very old and Vestigial i guess is apple trees and a lot of them look like a cross between crab apple something else. Small hard little apples long story short. Exactly what you said you know bake them in butter a lot of people sarah sugar and they're delicious
Behind the Scenes at Prairie Moon Nursery
"All right. Caitlin o'connor it's great to have you on the podcast. I'm really excited to talk to you today. But first let's start off by telling everyone a little bit about who you are and what it is you do for sure. I'm a huge fan of the podcast. So it's very exciting to be with you here today. My name is caitlin. And i am the education outreach specialist here at prairie moon nursery and winona minnesota yes So i've been with moon for a little over five years now And i came to curry moon. Because i'm actually a resident of wis- koi valley community land co-op where was started So i was going to college in the winona area winona state university And had gotten my degree in environmental science and my capstone research project at winona state. was with native plants and so i got familiar with Moon at that point in time. And so you know. After a brief stint of going to the big city and doing doing some nonprofit environmental work up there. I came back to the more rural winona county and landed up as the moon. So it's really great to be here.
A Rallying Cry for Restoration
"All right. Tim christoffersen it is an honor to have you on the podcast. Welcome but before we jump into what you came on to talk about today. Let's start off by introducing yourself. Let's tell everyone a little bit about who you are and what it is you do. Thank you very much matt. And it's a great pleasure to be on this podcast in defense plants. That's great title. So i'm tim. Christopher i'm the father of two wonderful children happily married and i'm working for the united nations to make a difference for my kids. That basically sums it up. I'm a forest by training. Though i've left being an active forester in the field about twenty years ago to work at the national and international policy level. Because i felt that they were changes that we need most stem than those you can achieve at the ground level. I'm still on that journey and trying to aim for that. Systemic change. well it's wonderful to see someone with an actual background enforced going in the direction of policy. Because you kind of understand it on a level that if you just want the policy route you might not have that on the ground experience but what got you interested in forests and ecosystems. I mean you mentioned your children really being the main motivation about working towards a more sustainable in habitable future on this earth. But what got you interested in the environment in the first place. I think that also goes back to. When i was a child. I was spending a lot of time outdoors and in the forest. My grandfather was also forest. I t took me out a lot on his journeys and on replanting And the that has really shaped me. So i've i've known that i wanted to become a forester ever since i was twelve. Think so it's It's been it's been an interesting journey to leave that behind. Sometimes i wish i was still working directly with plans. I try to make up for it in by having bought a little farm that i'm trying to restore and my spat time so that i don't really talk about restoration but also also do it myself. otherwise you can lose that connection that you just described right in what is real and works on the ground and what other policy changes that we need.
Mint Relatives With Ken Druse
"You all know kendrew regular visitor to the show and author of twenty garden books and longtime friend. When he's not managing the antics of two troublemaking but gorgeous canines. He manages his extensive garden in new jersey. Hi ken i changed. Your intro. gorgeous canines oak the their handsome. It's true managing left that part out. So i sh- since we're talking men's today which are often aromatic. Let's have a giveaway of your latest book. The central garden about sent and fragrance and so forth with the transcript of the show of runaway to garden dot com. Okay that's lovely okay. Good good So you know when you said it. As i said in the npr's like what. What are we gonna talk about. And then i really it was kind of. And then you and i both got to sort of digging around reading about mints the mid family and so for so tell us a little bit about the breadth of it. Well i could stand in one place. Just turn and look and see. There's oh there's bee bomb and there's a lemon balm and there's some you know there's so many family relatives and you can often recognize them. Not only because many are fragrant when you rub the leaves but also because many have square stems but there are over two hundred and thirty genera- and over seven thousand species of mint relatives plants in the lenny. Ac family
Trillium Diversity: A Story of Ants & Seed Dispersal
"Dr chelsea miller. It's awesome to have you on the podcast. I'm really excited to talk to you today. But first let's start off by telling everyone a little bit about who you are in what it is you do. Hi it's a wonderful to be invited. Thank you so much for having me Yeah my name's chelsea miller. I recently graduated with my from the university of tennessee and knoxville in their e department. So i'm an ecologist First and foremost. I'm not a botanist. i'm not an entomologist. Although many people think that. That's what i do. I studied plant. Insect interactions so I'm in both of those worlds but Yeah i definitely don't know all about taxonomy plant or insect Only really the the organisms that i work with but a little bit about background i grew up in northern illinois in the middle of the cornfields so very agricultural not a lot of what i would consider to be nature available to me in my backyard for example and as a child. You don't have the option to pop into your car and drive wherever you wanna go. You know i was. I was really used to playing in the little catches woods by my house and i. It was very safe and comfortable. But i really didn't love growing up there on. Inci went to central arkansas for my undergraduate degree. Permit parents Went to school and they have a really great honors program. There that i got into. I had an awesome time in arkansas. I loved it arken. Fuzzy opposite of illinois there-i wild and natural at least the northern half of it in the ozarks and that's that's where i spent most of my time. I just played in the woods. And i hydroxide and i. You know floated the buffalo Is gorgeous natural scenic rivers. And i just did a ton of feels worth so. That's kind of where. I got my start in biology with dairy on the ground. You know the good old southern boy. Kind of research so yeah. That's how i got started in really wear my My research
ADVENTUROUS DESIGN and CIVILIZATION BUILDING
"Welcome david i am just really happy to speak with you about these things at this exact time and i'm really excited to speak with you. Thank you very much. And you know if i were to ask you your current mission statement at this point in your life at this point in your work for your relationship with plants and planted spaces whether that's personal at home or it's also as manifested by teramoto. What would that mission statement be. David you know. I just did a funny thing last week where i was looking at our office profile on our website and we kind of have a think manifesto is too strong a word but we have kind of a a series of paragraphs that kind of outline what you're asking and i actually listeria and i looked at it and i was like. Oh my gosh this is out of date. And so then. I added in a couple of sentences that kind of explained that this manifesto or a this belief system is allowed to change any ball any point in time. So you your questions. Kind of timely. In that when a so i started teramoto with a turnout is not just mind. A it's it's alan for. Roy is my business partner. Jenny jones house partner in our la office and we have a team of about seventeen people at this point which is really incredible and All incredible humans. And when allen and i started teramoto our of guiding principle is a formally and conceptually adventurous office for landscape architecture. And i would say that that very much still rings true and a stand by that and that's like the tag thing on her instagram. That being said the practice has evolved. We the team has grown and time has passed and we've got to build a lot of work in evatt to learn a lot in all of this
Summer Cocktail Tips, Straight From the Garden
"I. I'm not going to talk about a specific cocktail today. But i'm going to encourage people to experiment you know ellen. The mo- hito has been so popular of late. Right and there are several mint based cocktails. And they're fine. They're wonderful and all kinds of mintz can be used for them. So that's delicious. But i would encourage people to experiment with other flavors with any traditional cocktail recipe. That calls for meant whether it's a mint julep or mo hito instead of using the mint think about using other flavors in that same recipe and i would encourage you to try basil. That's a wonderful herb to use for flavoring. I would encourage you to try lemon for beena. Which is a little milder and But also plays well very well with anything that has lime in it. Of course and i would also encourage people to try to stir cham's because using minister shem foliage instead of the mint and even minister shem flowers. You put those flowers and foliage in the cocktail shaker and you mix it up and straighten it out and you've got the spiciness of distortion and you can garnish the cocktail with mr shem flour. And it's it's yummy. I wasn't even thinking on long the substitution line. But last year i had an august a in my garden and at the end of the year i was cutting them back and i dried all the foliage and it's got a wonderful sort of half meant have liquorice flavour and i made some of it into a syrup and i've been thinking what could i. How could i use this in a cocktail so going to go back and look at all the classic mint cocktails and see one. This substitution does for just mixing it up a little bit.
For a Different Look in Your Garden, Try Yucca
"Initially and i'm talking way back in time. I thought that plant doesn't belong here. It looks like the zone plant or new mexico. Plant or whatever i i was. I was a bit of a situation with a class and i turned to the professor to ask question. I must have backed up. Just a touch. I had shorts on at that point in time. And i knew i backed into something. Because the tips of leaves are bordering on being that of a needle. I understand they use the indian people used to indigenous people used to strip the leaves of some of their vantage and so on and use them as wine or minor rope and so on. Yucca is the name of the plant yucca is has been for. I don't know we can have now and going on. It's about i think half over tall boring on four and a half five five and a half feet tall. The leaves are staying at. Oh i don't know need to buy and then up comes this stem gangly looking thing when it first starts up when it starts to flower. It's very different now. Summer white white and beyond that summer kind of a creamy white there is a variegated form. And so i still think the plant belongs in arizona however when it is used here in in all zone five and six it still fits in If it's not just one plant and that one plant can be used in a perennial garden. sticking up background. That's fine but i. I've seen them used wrong or they don't i don't know they don't seem to hold their own visually against we'll call the normal foliage and things around here however i've seen the music groups and a group of yucca. Five plants whatever it might be can be seen. I swear for up to a quarter mile when they're standing tall and saw it. So i put that in there. It's it's the red white and blue time Up up close. The plants are always sending out new flower florence. If you will and and some old dead when so when you're up close you kinda see a mixture but at a distance it's all just a great big four and a half foot stem of white flour. So it's it. It has to be a plan of the week. And since it's about what i call mid bloom period That's it and it does kind of add to our fourth of july red white and
Palms Through Deep Time
"All right. Dr kelly matsunaga thank you so much. For coming on the podcast. It's an honor to have you here. And i'm really excited to talk to you today. But first let's start off by telling everyone a little bit about who you are and what it is. You do all right. Thanks for having on the podcast. My name is as you just said. Kelly matsunaga currently an assistant professor in ecology and evolutionary biology at the university of kansas. And i'm also curator of paleo body in the biodiversity institute which is sort of the collection of natural history museums Here at ku. That's really exciting. Paleo botany to me. Is i have to live vicariously through people like you. Because it's something that was has always interested me but i want a different path with my career. So i'm really excited to pick your brain about this but one of the things that always interests me is how you came to paleo botany in the first place where you a fossil kid a plant kid. Where did the combination of the two really find their way into a fruitful career for you. Yeah so i I would say that. I came to paleo botany through a lot of sort of happy accidents home. I was not a paleo kid. Or a plant kid numb. I got interested in plants when i was in college. I was not a science major. But we all had to take intro. Some kind of intro. Biology works as a general education requirement. And so i took introductory botany in. That's what really got me interested in plants Specifically the the whole evolutionary story of plants that the professor that taught the courses frank shaughnessy at humboldt state university. Who was able to sort of weave through the course of the class.
Natural Communities With Patrick McMillan
"Patrick mcmillan came to herons would last fall from clemson university in south carolina where he ran the south carolina botanical garden and was a professor in the college of agriculture forestry in life sciences he also hosted a pbs series called expeditions with patrick mcmillan and led the development of the botanical gardens natural heritage garden. Which will hear more about so. Hi patrick. I'm so glad to make contact and get to know you a little bit. I margaret. it's it's wonderful to speak with you in wonderful be your. Yeah so i feel like it must have been a bit of like dorothy. Were not in kansas anymore. When you found yourself in the pacific northwest compared to south carolina. it really was. It really still is I've been a little shocked. How quickly of this area has started to just feel like home One of the. I mean herons would as one of the world's great gardens of with some of the best garden people in the world and into the area itself also to me just has this wonderful kind of maternal nece to it Seems to just envelope you and and convince you pretty quick that this is one of the best places on planet earth. Yeah so. I mean it's a distinctively different natural community or habitat from where you were and so besides being shift in zone and so forth. It's a distinguished place in many ways no thousands of different types of plants and so forth but also being i think one of the largest public gardens in the us that's wholly owned by native american tribes does. Did that influence your decision to come there and tell me a little bit about that absolutely You know when i when i was sort of looking around to to sort of slowdown and change and i know you know what that's like to to want to Get away for maybe six job. Titles down to one.
Fruits! Berries! Things You Can Grow in Your Garden
"Well. It's been a lot of interest in in the garden. Ever since and the fruits is a really wonderful thing to grow in the garden. It's it's a little tougher than vegetables on some respects. Some are easier than ground vegetables and but all of them are a challenge in their own way. Just like whether it's a broccoli lettuce they. They all have their own challenges. We have a small patch of blueberries about ten bushes or so and We've last year. We had one heck of a of a harvest. It was a beautiful blueberry year. And this year when when i was Back at the house and looking at the blueberries We've always let the The wild Strawberries grow underneath them. That seemed to be a good mulch and didn't seem to bother anything and they both like an acid soil blueberries and strawberries and This year was the first year. I've seen a just a massive amount of little baby. You know well for fully mature tiny little strawberries. Oh yes. I was surprised i was picking a few and of course the the wonderful thing about those wild strawberries is. They are sweet and they are delicious. There are a lot of work. Well i used to go into by my. When i was a kid used to go into my grandfather's backfield and pick a whole court and i think i covered a half an acre. A court again. My grandmother gave me the the old little wooden strawberry boxes the billboard size once you get as many as you can fill it up to that. I wanted to tell grandma. I and even picking even picking them by putting one in the bathroom. I would come back with a court. But i'd also i'd also defoliate a half acre to do but who else was gonna do it anyway. Right
New Naturalism With Iowa-Based Plantsman, Kelly Norris
"Kelly. It is such a pleasure to speak with you. Thank you so much for having me jennifer. So i'm gonna ask you to take us beyond that little resume sheet and described for listeners. If you had a current personal mission statement for your own gardening practice and growth right now in your life what would that personal mission statement. B kelly that personal mission statement for me is to plant the world a more beautiful functional place ecologically functional place that is and that is a course that i have been on for longtime really a of course of some self discovery along the way as well as a sort of marion of various interest in order culture as i have have come to discover them in the course of my career today.
The Foragers Dilemma with Alexis Nikole Nelson
"Wanna ask you about your background. So i know you're not the first generation of of nelson or whatever surname. There is on your maternal side in this in the ohio. You've talked a bit about your mom's relationships with plants and what you learned from her. But i also know it goes even further back than that. So how far back. You want to tell me about how that kind of relationship with the land is part of your family. Oh absolutely so. We're very lucky because not not every person of color especially not every black person in the united states is lucky enough to be able to trace a lot of their familial history back on my mom's side of the family with her father they'd been they've been in the united states since the sixteen hundreds they were farmers in new england after the revolutionary war. And with my mom's mom's side of the family with my my nanna. She was a second generation. Cape verde an immigrant to the cape cod area and with a lot of bigger and immigrant families. A lot of them brought foraging practices with them and i mean my nanna was like working in the cranberry bogs in the nineteen thirties. To help better support her family and bats a whole lot of exposure to plant lice. But you just get to learn about with each passing day while you're out there so tell me more about that. She was picking the cranberries and selling them for a while. Picking the cranberries for a someone else's business which one of many reasons why i think being a forager of colour is very revolutionary as because nine times out of ten historically in even in the present day you're a person of color and are attending the land it is typically for someone else's game and that person tends to be richer and unfortunately often quieter than you and so when you go back far enough has some sort of connection to foraging because none of us would be here wasn't for that action but for the indigenous people who are already here like that. That was food that was eating and then a lot of those indigenous folks in turn taught black people who were enslaved. Those same tips and tricks in about the same kinds of plants because as a black person living on a plantation. You're lucky if you were getting enough to eat to sustain the kind of duress you were putting your body there every day so it was smart to know how to forage. How trap how to fish how to hunt so you could better take care of yourself. Better take care of your family and the rest of your community
Rue-Production in Thalictrum
"All right. Melody saying it is so great to have you on the podcast. I'm really excited to talk to you today. But first let's start off by telling everyone a little bit about who you are in what it is. You do all right so melody sign and i'm currently a phd student at the university of wisconsin. Madison in the botany department my journey into botany was not the most straightforward at all. Let's yes i always hated. Min- was the person that all plants her boring. A coup cares about plant. Just sit around and do nothing so A win in two undergrad wanting to be dinner. So is the premed person wanting to gone dentistry. I'm also the type of person that really enjoys shoe. Have fun and i like to enjoy my life As a during undergrad Started to not. Enjoy what i was doing so much when i got into like the him i was just like is this i want to do and then i started thinking about you know dennis school like it's just like more ambitious cramming knowledge nutting for ted. That's all it is. And so i let my cell venture into the fact that i really liked reptiles amphibians. So i kind of transitioned in the middle of my undergrad During into my sophomore year into herpetology. Linda thoughts of okay. I think i would like to do
Fred Highlights a Couple of Plants Everyone Should Consider.
"Already had a couple of other plants. You wanted to highlight. I definitely do the one that has been highlighting itself for perhaps up toward two weeks and then again like all other tree families groups and so on. They don't all bloom at one time. Now they gather up at one time. But i have been enjoying immensely my own and then dozens of other japanese tree lilacs. They are technically lilac. They have relatively little fragrance. Unfortunately it's it's not unpleasant but it's just not much there. They are anywhere from a creamy white flour to Well whitish. I don't i don't know about snow-driven but at the same time they're they're very remarkable and you can see them literally if you turn a corner on a city street and they've used as a street tree you can see in three blocks away when you turn the corner. They're they're quite remarkable for a period of roughly two two and a half weeks there quite a sturdy tree. I have seen them now and now being the last x. number of years where they're being known well enough to be used as a retreat. I've seen them from. I'm going to call them saplings. On up to about ten inches in diameter and then i have to tell a quick story about driving the countryside many years ago when i thought i knew what a japanese tree lilac was and hadn't paid any attention. Anyhow i'm trying to get on county roads from one town in northern ohio to another. And i'm i'm i'm kind of beaten it on the road and i came over a rise in his. I looked down there. Were three of them. Yeah that i could see honestly for quarter-mile with up being any attention. I kinda hit the brakes. So i get a better look. I forgot there was a guy behind me. Yeah i don read sign language that remarkable though march they add and their their their finishing up right now but even after the glory of the flower and the little little flower