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Integrating Omni Channel In Automotive
"Hi everybody welcome to Talking Automotive my and name John is my co-host Sinclair Mark Palvestra . Thanks John. Today we've got Michelle de Novian the chief marketing officer from rhode. Stay in the us at right. Sta are omni channel digital platform for the auto industry dealerships and michelle. Hsieh's some very powerful information with the insights that have that she saying from the covid situation change and move to more digital transactions of more importantly h transaction is different sets not just a pure one hundred percent digital plight it is interacting digital with the dealership experience and actually improving efficiencies with the sales put units unit sold per south consultant has moved from ten units units and customer satisfaction has increased significantly some very powerful information that she shares all support bossom. Very strong data is fascinating for me. Is that the sales price as Longer linear where thousand works with one. Customer from beginning to end delivers a vehicle. He's not working with multiple customers at different touch points. And it's happening in the customers on tomek when the dealerships close very exciting think. This is the way things are going to and such. It's a really with listen for this jump into talking automatic analysis identification and implementation of profit opportunities for the automotive ak system with thirty years experience in logistics and started the out locations in five major shrines. Cities breakout fleet services is an independent. Division of prayer services offering specialty flake. That's for commercial applications ranging from simple try and taiba statements to fully bespoke service body and accessory installation with quality issued safety compliance and standardization of vehicle builds. Breakout fleet. services are a premia in one solutions provider for commercial vehicle fleet operators leasing companies and original equipment manufacturers for further information on. How breakout fleet. Services can assist in solving your commercial vehicle fit aetna aids. Please visit pre-cut dot com dadu and click on the link to flight services. John talked about Just yesterday assist really powerful stuff that really raise the as the way we way we need to go as a as a as an industry in. That's what you guys in the adoption in the. Us is much faster than bank. This is us. He still thinking that online listings. For years cazes a good thing in a net cutting edge raisin haram do you to have the omni channel and what is on the channel that main the word is out there but that really comprehend. What does that make I was having a conversation with a Dealer here in the states earlier today. We're doing some research on sort of their they're buying journey for digital retailing. And it's interesting to hear how the progressive dealers have been all about. You know how do i. How do i modernize customer experience. And that seems to be where a lot of people were leading the conversation in their own organizations until covid. And then everybody's like oh wait this could be really great for productivity to hours talking hats. Never like that immediate hurt. You know that we're all responding to but it's that moment that's sort of what the omni channel steph. I think brings Beaches what we've what would they added. That way would be spending a lot of time. Educating not to seal us but even just people who worked within the ends that would be countless thomas guys for different organizations and you'd have to read trying not retrying but just get people up to speed. This is how dealer works. You'd get inflexible. A williams were really good at bringing. Fm cj to into the auto industry but then the deal is wouldn't were liked to the principal's side. We found that we would spend all his time. Just got through. This is had the business thinks this is how consumers upright at mrs Comes but just a reeducate but then the downside also is that there were people now games. That are so blinking into thinking. This is just how estimate and something new comes in nightcap. adjust to it with a whether it's a pivot or even just a mind move The thought patented by should go down that road because now we've always done so therefore we must do it this way. So you Al mission if you like without series is to it's one of enlightenment But this one. Also you'll come as i should with with david that was an autograph mesa. Yes gotta get shell on on the shire to give your insights and your expertise because the journey that use shea is the journey that many needs to be undertaking Oh actually i should have been undertaking five years ago. But if you're not on that right now you hear it's yeah it's it's tough. I think that. I know we talked to mike. About how the pandemic has been a bit shorter of a time period for you guys than it is here at this in the states but i think it was a forcing function for the future so that was a big wake up call. Thank for even dealers here. I don't think it's just internationally. I think in general change is hard and it's hard to contemplate in until after requirement. You know there's a lot of people that will just sort of sit
Hi-Performance Heritage - 1969 Dodge Charger Daytona
"This week's projet carve. The week was the nineteen sixty nine. Dodge dart posted on the moped hunter. Facebook page on tuesday january fifth at nine a. m. let's read the ad nine thousand nine hundred sixty nine dodge dart sixteen thousand five hundred dollars. Nineteen sixty nine. Dodge dart very well built four forty. Tci seven twenty seven dana sixty with four fifty six in spool fiberglass front rear deck lead from bumper. Just put down the direct floor. Liner front end has been completely rebuilt. Everything has been changed including the torsion bars retires or hoosiers that don't have fifty miles on them. Amnesty distributors six. Al box brand new holly xp carb too much to list completely rewired with ron. Francis wiring also have the box with the extra wiring for other applications plus instructions also frontiers new and converted over to kelsey hayes. Four piston calipers shocks in front or new shocks rear. Our new drag shocks car is very fast. Title status is clean. I know what you're thinking. You're thinking here he goes again with another dart drag car. And you're right. I can't help that. I love dodge darts and i can't help that. I love drag car projects. They're just cool. I really do enjoy them. I think they're awesome. And i think that great project cars and this car just happens to be another dart. The reason why. I like this one so much is because it's pretty much ready to go to me. It looks like it just needs a few finishing touches and you're off to the races. I should say that like with any race car project. You'd go through this thing from top to bottom. But just based on what i see. I think it's a great candidate for a drag car project especially at under twenty grand. I mean this thing sitting sixteen five. I think there might be a little bit of room but you know just looking at the car and comparing it to other things that i've seen out there for maybe half the price the seems like a good bye. I will say this though. It may be kind of a handful on the street. And that's only because of the spool and the rear end ratio for those of you. That don't know a spool is a fully locked rear diff unlike locking diff the school locked at all times. So when you're turning you're gonna feel the rear end grabbing and gripping the road because the wheels will be unnaturally turning at the same rate of speed so it's kind of impractical parking taking turns and stuff. It might feel a little bit weird almost like if you're a four wheel drive on the street you know and you crank the wheel all the way and you try to turn. You're gonna feel that rear end like skipping almost The other issue that i saw was the four fifty six years. I think it would be really fun. Obviously light to light on the street. But i'd imagine if you're on the freeway a lot of could be an issue but that said you know a lot of people run these gears all the time even on the street so i guess it just depends on the type of driving. You'll be doing and if you're willing to put up with it it might be okay if you only take the car out occasionally on the streets but at sixteen thousand five hundred you have a great headstart to a fun strip car. That can possibly be driven on the street. It's a big lakhdar with some bigs and littles also has what looks to be centerline. Auto drags on it. So that's that's a plus in my book. I love those wheels. So big and little auto drags cool in my book. It's gotta side exit exhaust aluminum radiator. It's got a nice racing shift in it. Some cheap racing seats grant steering wheel. You know this things got some potential you know does it have its flaws sher- but we can work around those and we can take this platform as you get it and then make it your own. You know there's still room to improve and you know that's sure to tickle anymore. Part theseus fancy especially mind the thing even has really bars too so if you did drive it on the street the only addition to make it even more intimidating would probably be a parachute but discards cool has a ton of potential and it sure to turn heads on both the track and the street got nice orange paint a black bumble bee stripe. It's got a giant hood scoop on the front like the old school. I don't know what you call it like a pro street hood scoop. I guess I think that's the word i'm looking for. I think that's the description i can give. But it's not the typical hood that i would like to see on a mo- par but i guess it works. I like hemi hood scoops or six. Pack hood scoops. I think those are cool But it's got four. It's got the fiber last trunk so it's got four pins on that to hold it down Like i said it's got the whealy bars so cut that bad ass aesthetic to
Matt's New Garage Plus GM Logo Change
"Do you would you. I know you get the short timeframe. And and i know you push yourself hard. Do do you set certain expectations. Like what you need to do in in three weeks or four weeks like just i don't know physically or something except the number one. Don't get hurt between now. And then it right marty hurt you. Can't i had this conversation with somebody yesterday. And you know all joking aside once you look at it. It's like it here throw auto analogy. It's like get the car ready for seema and ten days I it's like getting a car. A bill ready for you. Know the reveal shot on a reality show but in this world. I had the conundrum that i have. Is you have unlimited time right so you what. How much do you portion out for. Strength for stretching for you know. It's it's a conundrum because there's so much to do in such a short period of time and then if you overload in one area you're you're your negatively compensating were in the other areas like if i trained too much then i'm going to hurt myself right but if i don't train enough then i'm not ready so you know i mean this is how is your how is your. Here's things like. Everybody wants to look good when they get into the ring as you get older suitable you know. I can't within four weeks. It's not possible so you just try to figure out how you can say face with either yourself or the i mean it's just it's a weird and we've we've talked about this before when you're doing it's like obviously you're when you're in there you wanna put on the best show possible not. It doesn't always go that way. It's still very taxing physically mentally but you wanna put on the best show for the fans possible that are watching but the training regimen has to be much different. I would imagine. Yeah you gotta look good. You wanna get big. You wanna get you wanna get cut. But i really like. How about flexibility bad. I just feel like just like all. My son is lifting morley team. Yeah so yeah. I spend most of my time in the gym in the gym at d. one fitness with him training everyday. Just stretch it man. He's i mean. I'm just trying to be pliable. Yeah so i miss. Don't want to snap in the ring. I'm not talking about my head. I'm talking about every ended. You know no. Let's move on okay. But that's important. Because is that's how you're gonna that's how you're going to be able to survive to put on a good show is going to be can you. Can you move around and not get injured in the however many minutes you need to be in the ring or you know what i'm saying because it ends very quickly and very quickly if something pulls her tears or injured or whatever in the first thirty seconds it changes the whole match sixteen when i went back and then russell rocket wrestlemainia my growing within the first ten seconds. The bill well. I don't know how you did that. We don't need to get into how so i mean. Yeah hey you know. I'm not gonna sit here. I do this every week. You know it sounds. I'm crying but yeah there's a lot. There's a lot to lot to happen in a very short period of time. And you try to prioritize stuff and you know is more important to be of as a more important to be big. What you realistically do in three weeks. Attaining that goal am i going to hurt myself a day yesterday in squatting i get it but i. I'm their interest driving my trx. We're just interested in it because it's part of the job right and it's just a big part of of your career for so many years and what you're doing what you're doing now and honestly the bill the car for sema or even the reality show. -nology is the biggest difference is is we can fake it at the last minute and you don't you don't really get to do that. I don't have that luxury get to do that. Well all right well at least so far so good. You're getting into it. I i see you got listen. I i know you've also got the big garage going on and the gym's going to be amazing up there as well. I hope. I hope you don't look at a guy. I don't wanna use net. Jim gauge will use it. That's for sure but Just for myself. But now since i can't all your hey listen. There's there's nothing better than to be able to go in to the gym with gaijin kind of act as coach instead of partner and that be perfectly listened to me. Well he's fourteen is listening. Your truck looks great. You know we'll segue to it as i spill my coffee overplays but the truck looks
TSLA is The Chosen One Says Morgan Stanley, Price Target to $810
"Everybody rob power here and today. We're talking about a new note on tesla's stock from morgan stanley. They have increased their price targets significantly. Today after hours. We also have some news on the full. Self-driving beta report on monowai gross margins from china and some news that riven may be raising some more capital taking a look at the stock tussle. Today finished up zero point seven percent to seven hundred and thirty five dollars eleven cents that actually did trail the nasdaq which was up about one percent. But hereafter hours worth. Things have started to get more interesting. After morgan stanley released their updated tussle note. Tesla has jumped by about ten to fifteen dollars. One and a half two percent to read around seven hundred fifty dollars per share otherwise news on tesla was fairly light today. So we're gonna spend most of our time here looking at that note. And as i always say when we look at analyst notes a lot of this is just contextual and it gives us good jumping off points for discussion and things like this also gives us good perspective and insight into the kind of information. That's being circulated around the street. So right off the bat here. This morgan stanley note comes with a great headline. They title the no quote the chosen. One tesla industrializes internet of cars target two eight hundred and ten dollars and quote. That is a huge fifty percent increase over the previous price. Target of five hundred and forty dollars per share. They write quote. We update our forecasts and long-term assumptions. Following better-than-expected cue for deliveries sixty one percent year over year growth and five billion dollar capris raising twenty thirty volume to five point. Zero million units versus three point eight million and taking the price target two hundred ten dollars. Tesla is richly valued for a reason reiterate overweight and quote. Okay so what has changed. Here with morgan stanley's assumptions that has led to this fifty percent price targeted increase while they say they had better than expected volume this year. You four specifically. There's been a significant capillaries. And of course tesla was added to the s. and p. five hundred. So they beat morgan stanley's projection. They have risked and they've been added the s. and p. five hundred which has reduced the float effectively reducing the supply of tesla shares as for the actual changes to their model driving this higher price target. They say that quote the majority of the price target increase comes from the impact of our higher volume assumptions in our model and quote as i said they have increased their twenty thirty delivery forecast from three point. Eight million vehicles to five point two million vehicles and they say that they have now added to factories to their forecast for twenty thirty bringing their total tesla. Plant count to ten. I think that factory count is actually probably pretty close but that would only be you know. Five hundred eighty thousand vehicles per factory by twenty thirty. But it's become very clear. That tesla actually has ambitions of producing two million vehicles or so per factory per year. At least in the case of texas and dig your berlin shanghai. They've said one million plus so even just those factories plus fremont if can hit their production targets in those factories. Gets you to more than five. Point two million that jonas projecting here for twenty thirty as for their earlier year forecasts for twenty twenty one they have increased their projection from seven hundred seventy eight thousand previously now to seven hundred ninety two thousand and as a reminder just as recently as july they had actually been projecting just six hundred and twenty thousand four twenty twenty one so they've actually up that by about thirty percent in just the last six months for twenty twenty two the forecasting one point one five million. I'm not sure what that was previously for. Twenty twenty three. Then they are up from one point. Three five million previously now to one point seven million the fun thing about these increased volume targets from morgan stanley. Is that a few months ago. They did what they called. A great tesla rating. They started including things like mobility services as a recurring revenue from autonomy in their price target. So they're sort of having this ongoing opera moment this year. That as they now add vehicle volume into their forecast they now have to add additional services and revenue margin as well and that is where the game changes in terms of valuation for tusla. And the thing is you. Don't even need a fully autonomous robot taxi type of service to start adding that services revenue in when tesla's starts offering full self driving as a subscription. I think that is going to open a lot. Of analyst is to how tesla's business model is structured and will be increasingly structured going forward leveraging software. It's already easy to say. As i've said in the past that if you want to compare valuations show me another automaker that is selling a ten thousand dollar software option then we can make those comparisons but because that is all sort of right now lumped into the same revenue the same margin line on tussles earnings. People just aren't willing to recognize that yet as a separate line of business when tesla's starts offering full self driving a subscription even if they don't break that out on their earnings that forces a change in how analysts are forecasting and modeling tesla they have to start forecasting recurring high-margin revenue right. Now that's basically all just being pulled forward into that simple ten thousand dollar option which is great but it also makes it easier to ignore the other factor making it easier to ignore right now. Is that a big portion of that is still currently deferred revenue. So it's not actually showing up in earnings. But as tessa delivers more features this year less of that is going to be deferred tussles valuation in and of itself is playing a role here too because it has become so massive analysts have to cover this. They have to cover well. They're getting more and more resources to cover it. They're getting more and more questions as tesla's been added to the s. and p. five hundred those benchmarked funds managers. They need to know what to do with the stock so the coverage is just getting more and more intense and again because the evaluation hide they're going to be a lot of analysts running numbers sort of back testing against that valuation. Saying okay to justify this. This is what needs to happen for the company.
Musk Email, Holiday Update, India, Panasonic
"Everybody round here and today. We're just doing a quick check. In episode. As i said my schedule's a little bit up in the air this week as i am taking delivery of my model three this week and celebrating holidays. Thankfully it's been a pretty quiet few days here as we head into quarter and usually that's not the case when i'm off but there are still a few topics i wanna cover shocking to everyone. I'm sure we have another elon. Musk leaked e mail. We have some news on tesla. India and a report on panasonic and tussles forty six eighty cells. Quick look at the stock after a long weekend. The market was closed for dana. Half at the tail end of last week for holidays so today opened a pretty exciting. About six hundred seventy five dollars but became much less exciting throughout the day tussle finishing up just zero point three percent to six hundred and sixty three dollars and a nice sixty nine cents. Nasdaq on the finish up zero point. Seven four percent catching up on volume over the last couple of days obviously market closed early on thursday about twenty two point nine million shares traded hands on that half day and then today monday started the week off with thirty one point four million shares. So those are both much lower than the one month average but pretty close to what we were averaging prior to the s. and p. five hundred inclusion announcement as for this week. The nasdaq will be closed all day on friday january first for new year's day but it will be open all day on thursday. The thirty first new year's eve day aren't so let's start off with this elon. Musk leaked e mail. As we had predicted earlier we should be expecting to see something like this. Towards the end of the quarter that has now come to fruition wishing electric on saturday publishing the e mail in full elon writes quote after today. We have just five days to achieve the historic milestone of five hundred thousand cars built and delivered. Please go all out to make it happen. This is a great milestone to rally the company around achieving. All the critics who as recently as two years ago said that we'd never make it also called our target of half a million in two thousand twenty quote unquote impossible. The heck with them. We are doing it. Particular help would be appreciated at end of the line to ensure cars built now are able to be delivered immediately without any further improvements and beady eye as there simply isn't enough time to do so. Hope everyone was able to spend some time with loved ones. This holiday season and has an amazing twenty twenty. One yuan and quote believe pd either is pre delivery inspection. So he's just saying there's no time to fix the cars after their off the line so make it perfect from the start. These emails now have pretty much become like clockwork at the end of quarters i would say probably the most interesting part about this email is the lack of really anything all that interesting in it kind of what you would expect from him right like. Let's rally around this milestone. If we go all out we can achieve it. Let's make sure these last cars off. The line are really good quality so that we can deliver them quick. I guess what. I'm trying to say here. Is that if things were going as smoothly as possible. This is the sort of email i would expect to see. Doesn't sound like there. Any major fire drills. It doesn't sound like it's a longshot. Doesn't sound like they're having issues delivering record numbers of cars. There's a lot here that is not said that could have been said if there were significant issues like that over the coming days we will of course continue to discuss delivery and production numbers pork. You for all go through detailed forecast sometime for at the actual numbers which should be somewhere between january second and january fourth. But my take going just off this email very speculatively. I think tesla had it in the bag by the time you on. Musk send us email i think. Five hundred thousand is a lock. And i think eon knows he knows this is gonna get leaked out. It has every single quarter for the last. I dunno five quarters out. He knows it's going to be seen. He's specifically rights five hundred thousand produced and delivered if ilan was on the fence about this if he was thinking okay maybe we can hit five hundred thousand produced but it might be a long shot to hit five and eight thousand actually just for logistical reasons. It would have been very simple for him with an email like this to put the focus on production and try to emphasize that narrative around five hundred thousand produced rather than also emphasizing deliveries. Here he's also specifically calling out which i don't know i mean it would be kind of a weird move to call out your critics and not actually hit that number that they were criticizing you four even if that is a good motivational tactic and even if there would be really good reasons for you not to hit it it would just be kind of weird to call attention to that and then go well actually we. We didn't even get there. We were close but we didn't get there so quite a few reasons there. I think you'll on visas lock and again. This was five days out for him to have that kind of confidence. I think they are likely to overachiever. By a relatively significant amount as for what that amount is again. We'll go through that and a more detailed forecasts later on this week. Good spot for a reminder to subscribe because again schedules a bit up in the air right next year i just wanted to briefly touch on at least offer update. That's been going out over the last few days. This is sort of the holiday. Update this is twenty twenty eight dot forty eight dot twenty six a few new features here. We're not gonna touch on all of them. The big changes seem to be a few new games. We have an update to the user interface on driving visualizations and then boombox which uses the external speaker to play either custom sounds or series of pre made ones but of course not all tesla's have that external speaker which meant for pedestrian warnings. Those started being installed. I'm not sure of the date but maybe somewhere between a year two years ago so those updates and then the other big one is probably the super charger display. There's a little bit more information in terms of how those show up on at the map now so reactions to this release have been mixed. I think a lot of disappointment out there that we did not see us significantly wider obese of self-driving beta quite yet based on eons previous tweets maybe a quarter or so ago. This was definitely around the time they expected that to go wider. But anybody is to surprised to see that date slip a little bit
What are the most reliable used cars?
"So i've had an obsession forever about why buying a used vehicle is so much better for your wallet than buying new. There are a lot of people who love new vehicle smell. They want that new vehicle and if it works for you financially. That's fine but for most people buying used is gonna be a much better choice but there are people like a vehicle that feels new. And that's why to me. The compromise has been historically a three model year old vehicle. So right now it'd would be twenty eighteen because the twenty one or what out on dealer lots now so when you buy a vehicle. That's three years old. As a general back of the envelope rule it will have lost roughly a third of its value some models substantially more than that others a little less but generally about a third of the value has been wiped out in those first three years even though the life of the vehicle is so today with vehicles running quarter million miles Not at all unusual. That's like normal now where it used to be hundred thousand miles pretty much. The expected reliable life span of a vehicle but vehicles vary a lot and quality and consumer reports has put out a recommended list of bike category. The most reliable vehicles you can buy depending on size. And i want to start with the most popular part of the vehicle market and these are the most reliable three-year-old suv's based on consumer reports deep dive research and again. These are all twenty eight teens. The honda cr v. honda hr v. The hyundai kona alexis annex the mazda. Five and the toyota highlander. So if you're interested in an suv. Those particular ones are the most reliable. Now when we talk about Cars mid size and large cars the most reliable eighteens the mazda six toyota avalon toyota. Camry accurate t. Lx and infiniti q fifty so people don't buy a lot of cars anymore they specially don't buy small cars. But i'll tell you the ones that are the most reliable small cars the chevy bolt. The honda fit the mazda three the toyota corolla and the toyota prius and the toyota prius c in addition the toyota prius prime. Could there be enough. Prius is on there and the volkswagen beetle so The only american owned company that made the list was chevy bolt but most of these other vehicles are actually manufactured in north america. Even if they're owned by quote unquote foreign automakers that a vehicle. That's very reliable. Starting you're looking at a vehicle that's very reliable is key but not enough. You want to do to other things you want to check the van to see if the vehicle has been in any major accident and it's time of ownership that the van research would show and then the other thing is a condition to purchase. You want to have that vehicle. Checked out by a mechanic of your choosing. I
#2104: Oh, Shut Up
"What are you got. I got here a little. A little story sent to me by my my ex neighbor. Everett miller from that street. I used to live zette. Many moved away screaming here. it is. There's a little introduction here. everyone's been guilty of looking at another person in san. I can't look that old. You know you see someone who's sort of your age and you say i can't look at all you probably done the same thing so you may like this story. It's serious while waiting for my first appointment in the reception room of a new dentist. I noticed certificate which bore his full name. Suddenly i remembered that tall kid with the same name had been in my high school class like forty years ago when i saw him. I quickly discarded. And he's such thought. I mean he was balding gray head deeply lined face. He was really much too old to have been my classmate. Yeah so he came. He looks at my teeth. And i asked him if he school might do. He looks at my tooth. And i asked him if he went to the same high school that i went to and he says yeah i did. When did you graduate. I say he says nineteen fifty seven. I say you were in my class. He looks me stands backs the as he says. What did you teach. That's sad it really. Would you not question about your car or anything else. Number to call is eight. Eight eight car talk. That's eight eight eight two two seven eight five five. Hello you're on car talk. Hi my name is connie. And i'm from rome new york. We haven't ultra beal. Cutlass sierra and my husband. And i drive into work together in this car lately. I've discovered that my husband. And i have very
Collier Collection Tour + Ferrari 250 LM & XC60 Recharge
"In a new engineer right. Yeah i'm an corollas. This car cassettes matt motor de andrea over there. Doing i'm doing well man. How is florida florida. Florida was good eight indoors. Yeah stand up onto the beach. Gotta manny petty eight again indoors. A lot of indoor eating over there. Yeah they're crazy. They they have some kind of death wish or something or they don't have a retarded governor. I can't figure i it's one or the other. Yeah it's good. Yeah it's just read. Florida where people get to make their own decisions. That's what it should rea- shows were. Everybody showed up like what's the rules in. Florida is like texas is half half the people half the seats or The place is full. What they they try to move the seats around and spread it out a little bit But it was fall. That's fine with me. Everybody wears a mask except for you on stage. You get to spit on everybody. Nobody wears a man no mass ever. Not one mask. I stood on stage. And i have a vantage point where i can see every single person in that place because that's other clubs are set up if you stand on stage you you Word to my looking for you Peru's is not the word i'm looking for but you you can surveilled the entire room not a mask. No mass so So get the bodybags. That's what i'm saying. I'm saying it's everybody's here masked up now. We went out for dinner and had ourselves good meal. it was good went to the collier collection And it was a weird thing. So i'd always heard about the collier election and the collection is spectacular and we got a private tour of the collier collection couple of us and club owners girlfriend. Know there's about six seven of us and The gentleman who knew everything about the call your collection in detail kind of walked us from room to room in display from display to display. When you when you walked in the first thing you saw a to fifty l. m. ferrari and i always bring those cars up because there were there were kind of the funky ferrari they they were made. Engine i think the first mid engined ferrari there v eight ferrari. I think i think the problem was is. Everyone was kind of looking at the. Gto's with the front engine. B twelve you know and there were like This cute little baby brother for our i. It also has a style that that i like the. Gto's better looking. Yeah and it's it's not it just doesn't really drip ferrari 'cause because ferrari was always front engine. V twelve long hood kind of. Gt grand touring kind of thing and the two fifty mhz. Look a little bit squatty again. The head the v. Eight and it was weird to have a v. eight and a and a ferrari and back in the day. And when i say back in the day i mean eight years ago. Yeah you say. Va this spec. your says twelve. Oh i'm sorry it is a v twelve. I'm sorry. I'm sorry but it's funny. I started thinking about three point. Three point three yeah. It's a small displacement v twelve but it's a v twelve. I'm sorry buddy. I shouldn't have or maybe i did know it and i just had a brain fart but the point is they're interesting pieces but they were considered kind of cute or quirky are something and i used to see these things. I think max a patah. I think there was one of these two fifties that went at gooding. Gooding would be the one down at pebble beach right. Could ing yes. Yeah not not not at the lodge or not not inboard not not in the bay but down a sorry down next to the concourse yup the hill. Yes and usually at the hotel. Yeah i think that gooding had one of these things feel like eight nine years ago and like the estimates were like five to six five or something like that and and i was like i couldn't seems like a deal depending on the history. The history is going to change the value quite a bit but these cars were reasonable. You know in a lot of people listening going five million bucks at reasonable. Well it is when you're kind of comparing it to gto's yeah at the time and gto's at the time were you know thirty forty you know and these things were sick and i remember just kind of looking at going. I think that's kind of a bargain for this for this ferrari and they have great race history. Remember the most expensive ferrari in the world is not a gto. It's a two fifty or three thirty same car basically gt. Because i think it was the last factory for ari to win livable. Twenty four hours luma. It was the last factory. Want to win. Outright i think and that cars hundred million plus or whatever think canopus town so it is in fact the most expensive car in the world. Most likely is is one of those fifties. Lm's are three fifty alums anyway kind of looking at on a price at six million bucks not too not too bad back then They're you know thirty to sixty five now. everybody goodbye. Yeah i mean it kind of depends on. It's about the history but i was looking at The to fifty at the call your collection and didn't didn't have history didn't win lamont but it wasn't like the targa florio hill climbs and stuff like that and i was like forty million bucks about. Yeah so again. I don't know about this. I think it was a yellow one. Maxa and i'm pretty sure it was gooding. I'm positive. It was gooding and it was yellow and it was somewhere between six and eight years ago or six nine years ago but either way and i don't remember what it hammered for wasn't really paying attention back then but Estimate was like six six five or or some- somewhere in that range and Turns out if you bought to fifty you know ten years ago you you made nice decision because if you bought eighty two fifty ten years ago you most likely paid about five for it and it's probably twenty five now so you did okay and how. How big is that. Call your collection. Like how big is the facility. How many cars and they're just to get an idea of what a collection like. That looks like i think that the gentleman said like eighty thousand square foot area that may have included some other facilities They have a nice resto shop in there. They have different rooms. The porsche room was the first one. We went into lots of five fifty spiders than weird variants of the five. Fifty spider is well. All albeit awful Listed here to the john. Morton scarab yeah. There's some interesting stuff. They had a briggs cunningham room. which is. he's an interesting character. We don't really talk about but briggs cunningham built some custom cars. He was kinda trying to do what shelby did before shelby. He was doing it with cadillac powerplants. And we're looking at that briggs cunningham's if he's trying to build like a street streetcar sports car he he was trying to build a car. That win win lama. He's i don't know the best restored and lamar or something like that. He later on just kind of hooked up with jag and tried to Throws with the jag latte interesting stuff. Saw the scarab and That is the lance rent low company and that guy basically sold his vanish shop to shelby lance prevent. Low was his own custom car. It was a nice effort and it looked good and it and it and it performed well. But i think it broke a lot. Yeah and he just got frustrated. And like i said i'm out. And then shelby came in used a lot of his same guys i think.
#2103: Acute Tirophobia
"School here in car talk plaza. See it turns out that these combinations not so unusual got pieces of mail addressed to most to both of us. i mean. did you read any of your mail. No i just give it to me. I do all the work you come in. And that's it. Yeah well actually if you do you wanna give a little background here. I mean i. I mentioned a few weeks ago. That that i read something from a menu and in our favourite town was clouds. Live you wanna dylan new york right. There was a combination restaurant or something and furniture store and undertaker funeral pollen and it turns out it was interesting interesting juxtaposition and his one from poff says you commented on the combination of funeral pala and furniture business. This is not unusual. His one rudy's welding service and cold beer. If you're a weld you need a cold beer. Frontal out how it got started. Here's another one out in mo- mo- kina illinois. There's a place called. Al repair and tropical fish says matter clocks from i guess out there. I liked that shans last. Just add a little bit of erudition to the discussion. His a letter from a one of the most brilliant people in the world a phd. Johanna miller louis assistant professor of history at the university of arkansas. I was listening to your most excellent pro. She is intelligent. Your most excellent program last weekend too. When i heard a lot of the letter from the gentlemen wondering about the combination furniture store and undertaker da da da da da da as a college professor who was most interested in broadening. The knowledge of americans everywhere. I
1952 Ferrari 340 America + Gone in 60 Seconds Eleanor Mustang
"Got to get on. The trip is gonna mend it. Get it on and welcome to car. Cast madame corollas matt the motivator the andrea over there low. I doing doing well. My spirited driving around town. Yeah how do you like a run those gears all the time. Now i'm driving the Fiftieth anniversary. I guess to seventy three. Seventy z autographed by paper on the glove box. Well really the dashboard. Cla boxes are getting so low. Now i've got gotta hit the dance. One piece yeah when it gets in the car is always like pete brock and they go to follow up questions about the area and the daytona shelby and full regret. Asks us beat brock. Because they know you're gonna tell a story because why would you sign it if it wasn't a story. Yeah they cited. Tom cruise should be more into things. I agree or at least more into shit. I'm into know. I drive around. I have this habit of always been this way. I don't like eating or drinking things out of like. I don't like drinking a beer out of a plastic cup like a glass. I wet it down. I put it in the freezer. And then i'll crack the beer and dump it into the frosty glass cup. Because i just like it better. That way i feel like i don't know if it's ten percent or thirty five percent but holding a cold glass versus plastic cup. That's collapsing in your hand. I mean if you wanna know the extreme. And i feel the same way like utensils and plates like i. Don't you know when people do like the takeout negate. The steakhouse brought home. I don't wanna eat it out of the fucking box with a spark terrain. And if you if you if you conduct this little thought experiment. I think you'll find sometimes and it's happened to me before where you get like stuck in a bad hotel and you've got your bottle of wine and you've finished a couple of shows here and watch him sportscenter and try to try to escape life and you realize there's in that room except for ceramic mug and it's like okay now you have to drink wine out of a ceramic mugs and everyone would sign off on the fact that that sucks so if that sucks then there's versions of that and so for me. I don't like drinking coffee out of the plastic travel thing. I don't like the flip top. I don't like the plastic. i don't like suck it. I like coffee out of a mug. Yeah and so. What i do is i. Don't have a travel mug. I leave with my mug and drive with my mug and when you're driving a big car. That's an automatic. You can a set the mug on the armrest when you get into the car or even on the dash it'll be flat and then when you're driving you just put it in drive and hold your drink but when you're driving a stick and there's nowhere to set them there's no flat surface on that card so you have to hold the mug the entire time and then attempt to drive with me. They don't want you to have the mug and this is the mug. I drove here with. Yeah no problem. Okay how do you get to have you tried playing with when you're not drinking coffee while driving you can turn the rev matching on and off so i like to hit a few turns with at on and then hit a few turns off to see how i compare to the car. Yeah i've been doing a little bit of that. I've been you know one thing you do kinda miss when you're not driving. The big trucks are just like poland in and out of the garage marking space. Or whatever so much smaller so much easier to so much easier to maneuver and again other than like not a lot of space inside the car even just driving the car. My seats all the way back. I got lean back. My knees are still Good bent i drove Talia and three of our friends around the other night so we packed Five people into the car o and one on a little bonds i run. It's it's interesting because it you're right. The small cars are fun because they're easy certainly easy to park and in la where. Everything's a compact spot whole foods. Whatever trader joe's. But i always think about ground clearance. Yeah out because. I never want to scrape anything. I don't want to scrape the nose on do. Yeah especially with all the press always. Yeah the good news with this cars at has like the plastic sweep in the front so kind of that low pitch thing versus the matal. Yeah but there's always. I literally pulled out of my driveway today. i pull in my driveway. Twenty minutes go has has a steep incline on it. And there's always witnesses. There's always that couple that downing across the street looking at you. I like to stop and look. I like to stop and make sure. I give you the shame. Look like the. I know what you're doing. Got a little scrape scraping going on. But i'm fine all right. We don't want to one of those plastic or a backup Yeah we all know that. Dodge means horsepower muscle. But did you know that.
Matt's New Garage + GM Logo Change
"I know you get the short timeframe. And and i know you push yourself hard. Do do you set certain expectations. Like what you need to do in in three weeks or four weeks like just i don't know physically or something except the number one. Don't get hurt between now. And then it right marty hurt you. Can't i had this conversation with somebody yesterday. And you know all joking aside once you look at it. It's like it here throw auto analogy. It's like get the car ready for seema and ten days I it's like getting a car. A bill ready for you. Know the reveal shot on a reality show but in this world. I had the conundrum that i have. Is you have unlimited time right so you what. How much do you portion out for. Strength for stretching for you know. It's it's a conundrum because there's so much to do in such a short period of time and then if you overload in one area you're you're your negatively compensating were in the other areas like if i trained too much then i'm going to hurt myself right but if i don't train enough then i'm not ready so you know i mean this is how is your how is your. Here's things like. Everybody wants to look good when they get into the ring as you get older suitable you know. I can't within four weeks. It's not possible so you just try to figure out how you can say face with either yourself or the i mean it's just it's a weird and we've we've talked about this before when you're doing it's like obviously you're when you're in there you wanna put on the best show possible not. It doesn't always go that way. It's still very taxing physically mentally but you wanna put on the best show for the fans possible that are watching but the training regimen has to be much different. I would imagine. Yeah you gotta look good. You wanna get big. You wanna get you wanna get cut. But i really like. How about flexibility bad. I just feel like just like all. My son is lifting morley team. Yeah so yeah. I spend most of my time in the gym in the gym at d. one fitness with him training everyday. Just stretch it man. He's i mean. I'm just trying to be pliable. Yeah so i miss. Don't want to snap in the ring. I'm not talking about my head. I'm talking about every ended. You know no. Let's move on okay. But that's important. Because is that's how you're gonna that's how you're going to be able to survive to put on a good show is going to be can you. Can you move around and not get injured in the however many minutes you need to be in the ring or you know what i'm saying because it ends very quickly and very quickly if something pulls her tears or injured or whatever in the first thirty seconds it changes the whole match sixteen when i went back and then russell rocket wrestlemainia my growing within the first ten seconds. The bill well. I don't know how you did that. We don't need to get into how so i mean. Yeah hey you know. I'm not gonna sit here. I do this every week. You know it sounds. I'm crying but yeah there's a lot. There's a lot to lot to happen in a very short period of time. And you try to prioritize stuff and you know is more important to be of as a more important to be big. What you realistically do in three weeks. Attaining that goal am i going to hurt myself a day yesterday in squatting i get it but i. I'm their interest driving my trx. We're just interested in it because it's part of the job right and it's just a big part of of your career for so many years and what you're doing what you're doing now and honestly the bill the car for sema or even the reality show. -nology is the biggest difference is is we can fake it at the last minute and you don't you don't really get to do that. I don't have that luxury get to do that. Well all right well at least so far so good. You're getting into it. I i see you got listen. I i know you've also got the big garage going on and the gym's going to be amazing up there as well. I hope. I hope you don't look at a guy. I don't wanna use net. Jim gauge will use it. That's for sure but Just for myself. But now since i can't all your hey listen. There's there's nothing better than to be able to go in to the gym with gaijin kind of act as coach instead of partner and that be perfectly listened to me. Well he's fourteen is listening. Your truck looks great. You know we'll segue to it as i spill my coffee overplays but the truck looks great. Man i saw your pictures on instagram. Thank you bye. Beautiful house it. We runs fine. It the engine. That's in their stock is. It's it's interesting. Because as i start to build this new engine i start to notice more flaws on the current engine. I know that in the morning it starts right up when it's cold. But when i drive for twenty minutes and then park to run into get pick up packages the mailbox. Pick parts or something. I get back in it. And that's starters struggled y. I tried to get that thing started. Luckily it's happened every time but a couple of weeks ago. I don't know where we're going to some event we're meeting meeting adam somewhere
How Hot Wheels Forged Drag Racings Greatest Rivalry
"Within the sacred pages of the jungle book. By route your kipling. There's a tale of a creature named riki tiki tobbaco a mongoose with fearsome red is who fights a venomous snake to the death. The mongoose is described as having quote ivory fangs. Eyeballs flame the snake at battles as the strike. So fast that no. I can follow its motion animals in the story lament the deadly rivalry between the two predators. Wrote those who kill snakes get killed by snakes in rude yard kipling's tale is the mongers who prevails at least for the day. Our story today is a very different snake and mongoose pairing to drag racers born as don dome and tom mcewen let kipling's mongoose and snake their battles worthy of song or at least a podcast episode regularly reaching two hundred miles per hour in a matter of seconds added to men with humble beginnings becomes snake and mongoose not only household names but a household rivalry to tell you will need twin origin stories stories that one day pit the two racers against each other on the quarter mile drag strip down pass gas. The story of two boundary raking racers. Were also lifelong friends as well as rivals who were defined in their opposition to each other. But who individually brought the sport of drag racing into the mainstream like never before or since who were don dome. Tom mcewan the men who would become known as snake monuments both their lives remark by triumph and tragedy. What obstacles do they face in life and in racing forget to moan and koumba this is shown versus cobra a natural entertainer versus a steely eyed introvert. This is snake versus mongoose. God
Owner Survey, Berlin Progress, Gigapress, Waymo Comments (01.22.21)
"Jd. Power with some interesting implications for tesla. We also have some news from berlin as well as fremont a couple of tesla's spotted there under wraps and some insight into new casting machine every month and we have a few stories after that including waymo directing some common seemingly at tesla. Quick look at tesla stock for the last day of trading for the week. Tesla today manage to you after trading in the red most of the day finish up zero point two percent to eight hundred and forty six dollars. Sixty four cents. The nasdaq also flipped positive towards the end of the day. Up zero point one percent before we get into today's episode. I just wanted to point out that if you feel like you're missing episode from yesterday no you're not. There wasn't one as i said on twitter. I just felt like yesterday. There was really not a lot of news and with earnings coming up. I think my time and listeners. Time would be better focused on other things rather than just trying to push an episode out for the sake of having it when that does happen. I'm not just like taking the day off or anything. I'm still working just working on stuff. That's more long-term and actually think that will end up being more valuable for this group. So i dunno. I consider the audience to be either like my boss or stakeholders at least so it's important for me to share. That and i think eventually some of these things will become more clear anyway and of the boring stuff. Let's get into today. I wanna start off with this power survey which some of us may roller is app. But i actually think is pretty insightful. So this is the first electric vehicle experience ownership study by j.d. Power given us limited information here but we can kind of cobble it together to make some conclusions i. They've looked at the percentage of the owners that say that they will consider purchasing an electric vehicle in the future and they've also composed this overall.
Winter Beaters And What Is A Coupe: Rambling About Cars #3
"But how is that. Do any fund drives anything cool. I did of course. I've been in western south dakota one of the reasons that i wanted to take time off We were having tastic weather by that. I mean it's not snowing in cold There was actually about sixty degrees on on wednesday. That's a lot nicer is here. We've had really no winner this year. I mean i'm almost to the wyoming border you get up in the black hills and there's some snow but i i mean it's been nice. It's been warm so we went out for a drive kind of toured around some of the prairie areas I indulged my back. Road desires and found all kinds of gravel roads. Probably like thirty miles. Just just rallying down down the road. I your wife with you with like hurt White knuckling it or was it just you alone with me and she had a good time to good doozy kind of person that i am So i mean i. I took it easy. I mean we're having a good time together right and that's what really matters so But i mean that. Said i mean i was still well above expected speeds or for dirt roads. So you go for the folks who don't quite know where you live. You're kind of your both near mount rushmore. What is it devils. Tower doubles champion tower. I'm in rapid city which is right at the base of the black hills kind of the central black hills. Mount rushmore is about thirty miles. South devils tower is probably. It's about a two hour drive okay But i mean. I'm i'm kind of i'm i'm very close to the wyoming border. I'm very close to the montana border. i'm the kind of hesitant to say this because i don't want people to move out here but one of the reasons i moved here. There are some of the best roads in the world that nobody knows about. I can go over to the prairie. And if i just straight like twenty mile visibility roads i got him. I can go up into the hills just a few miles away and have some of the the greatest switchback hairpins mountain driving kenyan carbon. You could imagine and the scenery is fantastic and we went out to enjoy a little bit of that on wednesday. The
Questions for Q4 Earnings Call, Oppenheimer TSLA Price Target, EU Price Cuts (01.20.21)
"Everybody rob here and because we are now one week out from tesla's q four earnings report say technologies has opened up the ability to ask and vote. Four questions for tesla's q four call so we'll take a look at that and some of the things. I'm wondering about heading into the report next week. We also have new price tags on tesla including a new street high price reductions in europe and some news from competition. Does the stock did finish in the green today. Up zero point seven percent to eight hundred and fifty dollars forty cents but it did trail the broader market. Yes in five hundred dow jones and nasdaq all outpaced. The nasdaq finishing up nearly two percent. While we're on the stock. Let's go through the price targets here. So we saw press targeted increases today on tesla from oppenheimer and deutsche bank will start with oppenheimer which has set a new street high price target of one thousand thirty six dollars on tesla that is up from their previous price. Target of four hundred and eighty six so huge increase year more than doubling. Nothing too crazy in the note that we need to spend a ton of time on. It was focused on tussles opportunity with full. Self-driving with oppenheimer writing quote while we continue to have misgivings about risks related to tesla not incorporating lighter into its vehicles yet. We
Some Math on Teslas New Batteries, Munro 2021 Model 3, Dahn/Tesla Battery Contract (01.19.21)
"Everybody robbed power here and today. We've got quite a few things to go through. We have news on tests. Forty six eighty batteries. Cinnamon monroe has acquired a twenty twenty one model three. So we'll take a look at his first impressions. There's a new full self-driving beta version some news on tesla energy and a few other stories as well quick look at tesla stock after the long weekend. Not a bad day for tesla today. Finishing up two point two percent to eight hundred and forty four dollars fifty cents that was in the backdrop of a strong macro environment. The nasdaq today finished up. One and a half percent. We'll start here with a quick update. Obviously this is widely expected but tesla has now officially started deliveries of the made in china. Why this comes just over a year after the first deliveries of the model three in shanghai the seems to be more than just a handful of vehicles we had started to see newly produce model wise start to stockpile at shanghai towards the end of q. Four looks like tesla's now delivered many of those they had synchronized delivery event in ten different cities across china. Right now. let's move into batteries. We have three different stories here on batteries. The first of which is a new video that tesla's released over the weekend showing behind the scenes of the forty-six eighty battery cell manufacturing process. That's also included in this link to their battery jobs. Page aside from the interesting footage. Tesla also overlaid this with a song. And if you go to about nineteen seconds into the video the lyrics mention a million miles. Now it's pretty unlikely that this would be coincidental. Especially considering the fact that this was mentioned over on twitter by dave lee and elon. Musk liked that tweet. This million mile battery concept is something that we talked quite a bit about leading into battery day. So all referenced those older episodes but the just of those were that tesla has already had at the technology to have batteries that go a million miles. It's really just about balancing the trade offs for that increased life cycle and what that costs elsewhere in terms of actual cost per kilowatt hour or energy density. Things like that and that doesn't necessarily change with these new forty six eighty cells or with tesla's new battery production methods and i'm guessing that's probably why they didn't spend a ton of time talking about it at battery day. I think life cycle is incredibly important for a rebel taxi. If you're not using your vehicle for type purposes only driving ten thousand miles a year. Getting to a million mile battery is inconsequential. So depending on the product tessema optimized for different things model. Three might be more geared toward life cycle for example versus the roadster. That's going to be much less important either way though. The power train is something. Tesla's has been working on developing for a long time last year in the impact report. They talked about how that can lower the total emissions profile for actual production of a vehicle. Which is actually one of the criticisms of electric vehicles. But if an electric vehicle can go a million miles rather than two hundred fifty thousand miles then you're getting four times. The utility from something that produces a similar amount of emissions may be you know ten fifteen percent more emissions to produce a model three than another premium sedan. Sophie spread those missions out over the utility of the vehicle. Your per mile emissions from that manufacturing use phase decreases to just a fraction of what it would be for an internal combustion engine vehicle. I think the only other point here that i would add. Is that tussles move. Towards structural battery makes life cycle that much more important as that significantly diminishes the possibilities of swapping in new pack and sending the vehicle on his wet. Speaking of the structural pack electric has obtained what they believed to be. The first photo of tussles actual forty-six eighty structural pack in terms of new information. I'm not sure there's a whole lot that we can glean from this photo but it does seem to match. What tesla has posted on their battery jobs page in terms of their animation. There that has this battery structure. They both looked to be the same offset grid of cells by forty cells. So nine hundred and sixty in total of the forty-six eighties versus last count. We had of the model three pack long range at least was four thousand. Four hundred sixteen twenty one. Seventy cells tesla battery day said that the new forty six eighty cells had five times the energy of the twenty one seventy s so we have nine hundred and sixty of the forty six eighty cells though should contain a similar amount of energy to about forty eight hundred. Twenty one seventy cells. That would mean all else being equal which of course tussle talked about. Why all is not equal a lot of battery day but if all else were equal that would mean about a nine percent increase in the amount of kilowatt hours per pack. It is important to note. Though that tesla only gave us one significant digit on that five x energy number so depending on whether that's closer to four and a half or five and a half that roughly nine percent increase in energy could actually be as high as almost twenty percent or as low as actually being a loss of energy of down two percent. The line that tesla has that five x energy on they say plus sixteen percent range. So i'm guessing closer to the former than the latter for what it's worth a sixteen percent increase would mean the energy capacity instead of being five expert. Be about five point. Three three x while the volume of those forty six eighty cells as about five point five x the volume of the twenty one. Seventy s so. I think five point three times the amount of energy that would be less energy per volume but would not represent nearly decline in volume metric energy density that simple five point
Crew Show! (Defender 110, Mach-E, a One Take goes weird)
"What's up everyone. This episode is brought to you by butcher box. Yo big game coming up crowd favorites. What are we making. Were making meets. I'm making meets anyway. I always make meets i. I don't even like football or the super bowl but as an excuse to cook it is perfect because like i remember one year me and fad made wings like a hundred wings at home. It was awesome. And when you're buying that much meat it is really hit or miss if the store is going to work out for you. That's why butcher box is there for you. They can make meet arrive at your door and they can't just do it for super bowl sunday or for
Bertha Benz: Was This The First Road Trip Ever?
"Year was eighteen. Eighty eight. Karl benz had just patented the world's first motorcar two years earlier with the assumption that his incredible technical innovations would lead to successful business but he quickly found that his patent motor wagon wouldn't sell the world just wasn't ready for it. People were skeptical. These loud messy horseless. Carriages would ever be reliable enough to be useful. And so carl's business. Chances look shocked much as they had been on a series of previously failed business ventures. So it's quite the shock. When bertha benz his wife decided to do something about it in secret and completely unprecedented. It ended up changing the way the world look at the automobile today on pass gas story of bertha benzes. Big dr on chasseur back in the day people were like i don't know about these cars man they don't have is. I don't trust it because it doesn't poop i remember. I think i think it was an episode of the dollop like before cars in new york city horse. Waste was like a huge issue obviously but also like horses which is die in the street and they would just leave him there at the beginning. Cars were sort of seen as like a more environmentally friendly option because horses would just poop and then they die and then they rot so near a really depressing way of describing horses life. That's like a really sad horse. Like kind of like a nihilistic poop you die. I just watched the ever horse getting tucked in for bed and he. He grabbed the blanket with his teeth and pulled it over his shoulder. See that's why people are so reluctant to adopt. The autocar took itself in at night when it sleeps autocar. Helius cord doesn enroll. Enrolling is at me. When i'm trying to climb a tree. Is that a trope of a horse. I could see it happening. That's a good horse trying to climb a tree. yeah. I'm not doing it. Real horses like it's not. The first thing that comes to mind. I think a no i mean. It is a trope in children's films where the horse though the protagonist horse usually has like some sorta quirks smart aleck horse So yeah i could definitely see james your horse being like that. I'm the protagonist in the movie of my life. Yeah that's true. I think i would have like sort of like sarcastic kind of horses. I miss my friend. But he's he doesn't he doesn't yeah. He kinda humble yeah. He doesn't let me get away with anything. When i was in so i didn't think i was going to go to college and then like applied to technical school and got in and like the first day i was like is when i turned around.
TSLA Price Target Leapfrog, S/X Check-In, Tesla Solar Inverter (01.15.21)
"Everybody our here and today we're gonna be talking about a new note from wedbush have increased their tesla price target to a new street. Hi ross are going to take a look at the status of the model s. An potential refresh. What's going on there. Some of the rumors that were hearing and then we also have a bit of news on tesla solar as well. We'll start off with the wedbush note. Which despite being a pretty significant price target increase didn't save tussle from finishing in the red today along with the broader markets. But wedbush is now one up to bank of america which earlier this week set a new street. high price. Target of nine hundred dollars per share on tesla's stock wedbush is in greece their price target to nine hundred and fifty dollars up from seven hundred and fifteen previously. Wedbush writes quote. There has been a massive appetite in the market for ev. Stocks led by tesla over the past year as the demand trajectory for the sector continues to move markedly higher. The heart and lungs of the thesis is centered around china as we have seen consumer demand skyrocket and his twenty twenty one not just for model threes but for impressive domestic competitors such as neo expanding we auto and others in this key region and quote wedbush than says that they believed that the ev market which is about three percent today could reach five percent by the end of two thousand twenty one and of this year and ten percent by twenty twenty five. They then go on to write that quote right now. In the market we believe it's tesla's world and everyone else is paying rent and quote so primarily this note points to strong demand for electric vehicles a good outlook in china. Good performance from tesla in china. And then for the us. They say that electric vehicles are quote going to see tailwinds with biden in the white house and quote so for these main reasons. They have increased their delivery forecast out through twenty thirty pretty significantly from their last update. Which again they had a seven hundred and fifty dollar press target aunt so for that delivery forecast four this year they have increased their forecast from seven hundred and ten thousand vehicles up to what i still believe will be conservative. Seven hundred and fifty five thousand for the year. They expect that to grow to just over a million in two thousand twenty two and from there essentially increase at a rate of about half a million each year through twenty thirty that leads to a twenty twenty five forecast of about two and a half million vehicles significantly up from there for low forecast before of one point three five million and twenty twenty five and then looking out to twenty thirty they're forecasting five and a half million vehicles up from two million before so this looks pretty similar to the other notes. We're definitely starting to see this new consensus forum somewhere around two two and a half million vehicles and twenty twenty five somewhere around four or five million vehicles twenty thirty seems to be what analysts are now looking for at least for the analysts that are willing to look out to twenty thirty we still have some on the more bearish and that are only looking out to twenty twenty two for those of you. That caught the interview. That i did on sean mitchell channel earlier this week. This is kind of what i was talking about. In terms of tesla establishing a benchmark over the course of the next twelve to eighteen months that analysts are then going to use to extrapolate out through the rest of the decade. So we're seeing more competence now in targets like this because of what tesla has accomplished and the amount of time that they've accomplished it in accurate factory. Shanghai with has now seen tussle demonstrate that they can break ground on a factory and go to a production rate of two hundred and fifty thousand per year in less than two years. That sets a precedent for tesla to be able to achieve something like that again while street then has seen tesla within eighteen months of breaking grounder. Roughly eighteen months of breaking ground on a shanghai as intesa break ground on new factories. So both of those can follow a similar time line in terms of reproduction ramp. That shanghai did that. Means could be adding production capacity of five hundred thousand from those two factors in about eighteen months after it was achieved with giga shanghai. Then you have giga shanghai continuing to ramp up and it looks like tesla's now at the point where there could be adding you know about half a million vehicles per year so it's no surprise then to see wall street look at that and say okay tuscan may be achieved that half a million in addition per year we're gonna use that and extrapolate that out. This is where the progress Berlin and gigi texas becomes very important because just as investors are using that shanghai timeline as a benchmark today in a year from now two years from now they're gonna be looking and using the gigabytes lynn and giga texas ramps as those benchmarks instead. So tesla can you know a million or a million and a half years of capacity in the course of twelve eighteen months suddenly for analysts that goes from being unprecedented to something that is repeatable and they can actually put that in their models that can lead to a whole new tier of price targets. Which at the end of the day. It doesn't really all that much matter. The fundamentals of tesla's business matter. But it's not just analysts that are looking at things like that institutional investors by side is looking at that those kind of benchmarks have a big influence on the trading range. That tesla ends up in all right moving on from wedbush known.
Complaining About Screens And Loving Utes
"Christopher smith this week were talking a little bit about tech but before we get into that i wanna thank you for listening for giving us a second go. This is just the beginning of something. Awesome whether you're listening to us on youtube on spotify on apple podcasts. please click like subscribe. You know the drill this brand show so we wanna make sure you get the new content every week redoing every friday and yeah this week man. It's all about tech tech in cars. Is it too much. is it not enough. I need to toss this overdue rent. Lean about cars co host. Chris bruce chris. Why don't you walk us a little bit through what we're going to talk about today absolutely so as you. We're gonna be talking about tax today and to do that. We have motor one dot com editor. Jeff perez who. I've known for years and who has been shopping for a car the entire time.
Requests by Tesla in Autonomy Safety Update, Earnings Scheduled, Q4 Safety Reports (01.14.21)
"Everybody robbing our here. And today we're gonna be talking about a new final rule that has been posted by the national highway traffic safety administration and the united states for occupant protection vehicles with automated driving systems. This might sound a little bit boring. But as a part of this process nitsa has solicited and included feedback from automakers and other companies involved in the autonomous driving space. So they're actually quite a few different comments in here. Directly from tesla about how nitsa is writing this policy. Some of those comments may give us a hint at what tesla has planned for the future. After that and on theme we have an updated safety report from tussle will take a look at and then i do wanna revisit a couple of topics quickly from yesterday quick scheduling update before we get into those topics tesla today did announce that q four earnings report as expected will take place after market close on wednesday january twenty seventh generally tussle post the financial results and a shareholder letter a few minutes after market close and then at three thirty. Pm pacific time six thirty pm eastern time. Eleven thirty pm. Ut see they'll have a shareholder call which generally lasts about an hour so a lot to look forward to their over. The next couple of weeks will definitely be doing a lot of earnings preview. Type stuff you. Four reports are always a little bit bigger because they are the year end report and that means we should get at least a little bit of guidance on their outlook for twenty twenty one. We continue to at this. Point only have rumors on the model s. m. x. in terms of if they are actually being refreshed or if production has restarted. If there is a refresh q four would give them a really good opportunity to talk about some of the key elements of that. So i don't know that's a line in the sand at least a date that we can look forward to in regards to the necks as well all right so first things first on this new policy from nitsa. This is one hundred and forty six page report. I've done my best to read as much as i can. Obviously having gone through all of it yet as with any government paper it can be a little bit dry to read. But there's a lot of interesting stuff in here. So i will put bowling to this in the description. So first off the intent of creating new policy like this is to adapt these safety protocols for a thomas driving future per bloomberg that's as deputy administrator explained in a statement quote with more than ninety percent of serious crashes caused by driver error. It is vital that we remove unnecessary barriers to technology. That could help save lives. We do not want regulations enacted long before the development of automated technologies to present an unintended or unnecessary barrier to innovation and improved vehicle safety and quote. After reading. through a lot of this. I would say the just of it is to create new definitions that are more fitting for how vehicles are going to be used in the future. To then align current safety protocols to those new definitions or in the absence of an applicable safety protocol to then establish new protocols one of the big changes from that and what the media has most picked up on so far is that this will allow for different safety protocols for vehicles that don't necessarily have a designated driver seating position or even any seating positions at all for passengers. Obviously if an autonomous vehicle is being used to transport cargo around there is never going to be a person inside that vehicle it should be held to the same safety interior standards as a car that has passengers. We don't eat airbags to protect your amazon packages if those were required. But there's never ever going to be a human in the car and there's not even seats or there's not even a steering wheel that's just a burden that adds no value. So it's a here is trying to remove things like that. While also during that autonomous vehicles that have passengers in them are held to at least the same safety standards. That passenger vehicles are today. That's where some of these new definitions new terminology. Come into play because right. Now it's extremely clear in a vehicle which shows the driver's seat is and how you need to protect that seat but in the future that may not be so queer imagine if the steering wheel and the pedals are gone. Then you effectively have two passenger seats so using that as an example under this new policy nitsa saying that in a case like that you would essentially just mirror the safety standards for the front passenger seat for what is no longer the driver seat but rather the front left passenger seat. So it's a lot of little things like that that need to be discussed and clearly defined because that provides the regulatory certainty for these manufacturers in the space. So where we're gonna take our first look at some interesting feedback. From tesla is on the subsection on the driver's designated seating position and the proposed changes that nitsa had solicited automaker feedback four. They had
"People. One of our closest friend thaddeus brown is in from dubai sixteen hour flight and many cova tests later. He has been chilling with us for two weeks helping us film cars driving some interesting stuff and we are going to report on all the shit. We've been driving thaddeus brown joining the cruise show on the podcast out. It is in the house we. Oh there's the shot zacharias in the house chairs and fads visiting us from do gisele by the. This is the last day day day nine of ten of a ten day trip. we've done. we've had adventures. It's been fun. We rented a ferrari correct we went. We drove the alpina. Xp seven in the canyons cracked some snow alongside. The ferrari. we went off roading and defender. We drove the machi issued. Our first official shipment of tradecraft farms. Today and boy was that enjoyable experience guys. Fair trade crafts farms are good good. Good people when you talk about being able to place like that and leave with what we left with and just just for saying it. Follow them on instagram guys. Please make us look good. Keep this train rolling. I think it's cool that it's an actual business now also and What else do we do. I wrote down things. Oh and we also drove briefly. That twitter twisted defender which we will have to have another go in because it was a little short short lived. Plus zack has gone a new free. Lithium ion battery also free ish. Holy shit did my car crank up. Yeah like i thought my started was going out before something like this even if he has a lot more cranking power. That's why you know lithium ion they're used for For electric cars like instant power. So yeah legitimately cranked up faster. What's the name of that company. Anti gravity waves sixteen pounds forty pounds later than my other. One two gallons of you've got a a mind. It's that's that's what six fourteen pounds is sixty eight pounds. Okay yeah water. And i guess you're better before it had been ten gallons of milk. Yes six pounds seven gallons. Yeah no eight. Eight seven gadsby nine. Sorry it's just a lot. This is another endorsement for trade. Your math will no longer work people. But it's nice to have that back Get in the super chat. If you're with us live. We're going to do some that in the second. Half of the show but Men we did a bunch of driving of things this week. Where should we start rowlands. Rental ferrari on tarot say we could start with 'em too and the miz the to was in this carbon fiber the what the roof was a different pattern than other parts of that really bothered. You didn't i didn't like it too. I'm an inch. Nine hundred ninety two come on i mistakenly said in the video. It was eighty three which was the base price And i knew that that ceramics. And the dc t. were optional. But i didn't realize how much it was ninety two thousand dollars conversely and zach. We're gonna need to note this for the video. Conversely on the defender. I went the other way. Unfortunately the you know they normally no no they normally give me the window sticker with agreement. I signed together. Marnie and rony or it's left in the vehicle in this case. I i don't know it got it got emailed me the next day except i'd already made the video and so not the him to the doctor. Okay watch our video but the defender. I tried to build one on the configuration. Now it's actually kind of confusing their configuration. And there's a few different ways you can end up in almost the same car almost but not exactly and so. I thought we had the x. Model which is the top of the line. All the off road ship plus all the luxury shit it turns out it was dialed back. It was actually the s. e. model but then optioned up with the extra rhody shit and so i thought we were driving in eighty six thousand dollar defender. When in fact we were driving a seventy two thousand dollar defender. Whoa which really increases the value proposition fucking enormously at does i was. I like the car. I built on the site. It looked just like the one we outside. It looks the same but it. But there's just some different. Like i guess it has like rear seat entertainment and maybe another level up in the stereo in the mid. The leather is a little nicer. And i don't know. I i was off and it turns out the cars cheaper. So zach we're going to have to shoot a sidebar. That's like hey. I've walked up and scratch. Here's the actual actually cheaper a lot cheaper. That thing is a value. Which i think is probably good for them that we value. It feels like it's an six thousand dollar rather than seventy two. We're like okay. Yeah yeah no the. Pr guy was like well. you know. i'm glad it's not the other way. Cloudy didn't think it was eighty five. And it's really hundred but you know Seventy two so the defender is rocks. Was real clear very comes with a when i was in there and had like all the off road settings. Yes does it not have airlifting adjustable suspension. Don't yeah wow it's and it's the four hundred. So it's the the bigger engines six cylinder with all the gizmos turbochargers super charger. And i phone charger. Everything well actually for a couple of things couple of things. I had a little glitchy so to be per. You know. I don't want to be all fucking roses about this thing. The advanced track controls would not respond. And i had we had to restart the car and they fix itself. The What the fuck do you call it. The the the charging pad charging it would charge thaddeus his phone but not mine. It would do more like a flip flop thing on my phone and then also the the the comfort access you park the car. The wheel goes up into way. You know what i mean. Sometimes if you'd start the car but if the door wasn't if you didn't get in the car and close the door and then started if you started it with the door open. The steering wheel would stay up and then when you close the door it wouldn't go down. You'd have to manually do it. Oh so the comfort access would only work in the second half it when you close the door. Now this defender had seventy four hundred miles on it. Seventy three hundred miles on it so like that's a ton for a press card and and so i don't know might be very early build. That's just kind of still kicking around. I think the the steering wheel thing seems like something they could just program and fix i. I could see at the factory. Someone just goes okay. You get a new start the car and they just didn't think about that. Yeah they could probably change that with like maybe wifi. So those are the bad things and then also there's no scrolling knob for stereo for stations. So you don't if you program your favorites then you can quit. Click through using the steering wheel guy. Yeah
Boring Co/Tesla, Solar, Recall, Short Interest, ARKX, Nio (01.13.21)
"Stop at each stop along the way these individual tests vehicles could go essentially point to point without having a stop. You could go from the first station stop. All the way directly to the tend station. Stop without having to stop at stations to through nine. For example they compared to an underground highway system where you would essentially have these on ramps and offer am sorry. I guess on donald off tunnels which would connect what they call their main artery tunnel to the individual stations or stops so anyway they plan to use vehicles for this because there are no emissions. That's obviously critical underground. The vehicles are extremely safe and finally because of the autonomous capabilities. This is really a perfect early. Use case for autonomous vehicle because it is just one lane. Everything is extremely clearly marked. The entire environment should be very well known so getting back to this. Las vegas review journal article the most interesting part about this as they say that quote until the end of two thousand twenty one. The tests will be operated with drivers at the end of the year. The lv cva the system to run autonomously and at that time. The lv cva would renegotiate terms of operations deal with boring and quote. Having now had a fair amount of time to use autopilot on the highway. I would actually feel pretty confident in the time. Line that they're laying out here. Of course alana's said that he really believes that full level five autonomy will be achieved by tesla this year. I'm definitely skeptical. That i don't think that's going to happen. We'll certainly see a lot of progress but for a use case like this. I think it should be pretty much ready to go. I think it's good for them to start with drivers. I or at least someone there that's monitoring that can take control if need be but this is about as simple a use case for autonomous driving as you could find so in terms of a commercialized service from tesla. Even though of course this will be under the boring company name. This may be the first one that we end up. Seeing things seem to be certainly getting close to being operational here the las vegas convention and visitors authority actually has a live webcam showing the construction here so pulling to that and the show notes occasionally you can see tesla's popping in and out of those tunnels. I think the original plan was for it to be ready to go four. Cbs the consumer electronics show. Which started in vegas a few days ago but that went online only so not sure if that deadline moved because of that either way i think we should be expecting to hear a lot more about the boring company and the relationship with tesla this year next year. We've got some pretty interesting information coming. From a tesla job listing. This was found by electric tusla's looking for a quality inspection engineer which they will be asking to quote lead the installation and operations of automation camera inspection systems into existing manufacturing lines and quote under job responsibilities. They say that they want this person to own.
Nio Day vs. Tesla, Tesla India, Model Y Safety (01.12.21)
"Everybody robin our here today. Because we don't have a lot of other tests on news going on. I thought we'd spent some time going through neo day which neo held a couple of days back and i've gotten quite a few questions on so we do have a little bit of news that will go through. We'll talk about the stock right at the start and then go through some takeaways from neo day where they announced a new vehicle. Some changes to you there. At thomas driving plans and infrastructure first couple take a look at tesla stock though tesla bounce back today from the down performance to start the week finishing the day up four point seven percent to eight hundred and forty nine dollars four cents that compared to the nasdaq up zero point three percent there was a bit of confusion today. A couple of places had sent out. That tesla had set a date for their keefer earnings report. Martin vegan twitter did confirm that no official date has been set yet. My expectation is that earnings will be released after market close on wednesday january twenty seventh. And i think we'll hear about that in the next few days. All right moving on to neo then think everyone is familiar with them over the weekend. They held an event neo day in which they had quite a few new announcements including updates to their autonomous hardware a new premium all electric sedan and an update on their battery swap initiative. So i wanna give my early thoughts on this and sort of the relevancy to tesla. I wouldn't consider this necessarily a deep dive into noda more of an overview and strategic discussion. We'll start off with the product. This is probably catching the most attention. So neo unveiled a new premium sedan. The e. t. seven and they expect to begin shipping. Miss in q one of twenty twenty two. It will with three different battery size variants seventy kilowatt-hour one hundred kilowatt hour and then later to come and q. Four twenty twenty to one hundred and fifty kilowatt hour solid state battery. This really is a model s type of vehicle. It would start at around seventy thousand dollars depending on if you purchased the battery or you use nieto's battery rental system and for that one hundred and fifty kilowatt hour solid state version. I did not see a price. Do not believe that has yet been announced so of course all the state always very interesting to people. I don't think neo shared a ton of detail on this other than the timeline. And they also said they're expecting to be able to hit three hundred and sixty watt hours per kilogram in terms of energy density context. It's believed that coming out of battery day. Tesla should be somewhere around. Three hundred watt hours per kilogram in that range. Ilan in an interview back a couple of months ago said that that was essentially what would be needed for an eight hundred kilometer range on the semi truck and they said that they can get and musk said that over time they expect to be able to drive that range up to about a thousand kilometers on the my so if all of that were achieved through battery energy density improvements. That would be about three hundred. Seventy five watt hours per kilogram. Obviously there could be other ways that he sees the range improving other than strictly sal energy density so anyway back to neo that three hundred and sixty watt hours per kilogram number would be strong. But when you get up and you're talking you know five hundred plus miles of range. You really need to start considering cost more than energy density. So the big question that neo would have to answer if they are delivering on the solid state. Technology is okay. What is the cost here. What is the cycle life. What is the degradation and probably not gonna have great answers on any of those things for many many years to come well beyond twenty twenty to you at least from neo without more information. It's really tough for me to get too excited about. And remember the seventy kilowatt hour version of this vehicle. Eighty-seven is gonna start at around seventy thousand dollars so the hundred and fifty kilowatt hour. I'm sure we're gonna be talking one hundred thousand dollars plus so this is a low volume vehicle the other consideration that needs to be made here and this kind of bring us into the next point about battery swap is. You can't just consider the battery cell energy density. You really need to consider the energy density for the vehicle as a whole and this is why tussle has moved towards wanting to do a structural battery rather than packing their battery cells up into battery modules. And then a battery pack and then putting battery pack inside a structure of a vehicle actually want the battery pack to be that structure tesla battery day said that this lead you a fourteen percent increase in range now. Unfortunately it's a bit unclear how much of that fourteen percent driven from just being able to actually fit more batteries or how much of it is driven from weight savings
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I think there's fifteen minutes on sailing somewhere in there It's a good show. It's a fun show. We cover a lot of ground and zach and i are so low in the studio doing q. And a. on this episode of the tire. Podcast a study. A study published a couple years ago. That people who are Wristwatch where's and enthusiasts. Are more considerate than people. Who are not in general presents true. I didn't have a watch for a long time and j. f. when i started working for him he was like you should get watch. You'll s- you'll be more punctual on production and it was totally right. Because it's easier looking to take your phone on your pocket. And i think the sample size and the study was relatively small about one hundred twenty people maybe hundred like not tens of thousands of people. There is true for me nevertheless it does reinforce my belief that what i do makes me better than others. Everybody believed everybody's beliefs We were going to be on time but everything updated over the holidays like every device in here so we sat down. It was like oh shit bro. We were like four minutes late on a saturday other day that we shows to work on. I was already at my first job. And i called you the saturday of after christmas and i said hey. Do you wanna come over so i can do my second job also and you were like yes actually. That's weird that's but okay. happy saturday. I hope everyone had a good christmas zach in i in our lady's as Jews we asian takeout We try to chinese food. Is what new york jews do a lot. More chinese options serving on christmas in new york than there are in venice. Typhoon here yeah. I was born with a tie. Good tie is good the ties the tie is the is. La's chinese food. Starting thai food. I kind of gave up on chinese. Like this is what i watch. Chinese was most of the time. Because it's a little like fresher and more like natural not as greasy right fried But there's some you know like the little fatty like there's chinese. Like like artisan chinese probably. What the fuck in china and not. What the in. Chinatown that like. It's coming back. It's coming in west coast. Chinese food is like more watered down than the east coast. Even so we have. Well that's most mundane interests of the chinese food options. I mean americanized chinese food. You you searching for general tau before the documentary. No it's a documentary called searching for general tau. It's pretty low budget he's really. It's starts about seeking the origins of general charles chicken. It's not it's worthy Worthy pursuit if he asked me But the only really interesting super interesting tidbit in the whole film is that when chinese people came to At both ellis island and to the west the coast of immigration centres. Wherever the fuck they were. I'm ashamed to not know but wherever they were The the chinese Like immigration authority early nineteen hundreds. Encourage them not to like cluster and make a homogeneous community of chinese people but to like go out to america and be like the only chinese family in some little fucking town in some midwestern state or whatever and make chinese food and bring chinese food to america. And so that's how you end up with. That's one chinese restaurant. That's been there for like fifty years in every single town in america that is it was a policy. It's probably the most accessible ethnic food like across the entire country for certainly a while Yeah i mean. I can't think of like you said maybe more but no that's true right. Good point might be more wasn't no. Oh it's a competition misunderstood. Hi everybody again. I hope you all had a good christmas I don't have a lot to bring to the table right now. So i want to hear from you. Get in the super chat. And let's see what the fuck is up I will just start with. Oh there's already some good okay. I We can start with the bmw m. two s Well let me start by plugging. Can you go to road and track dot com zach. I'll plug i wrote. Some words about the porsche's drove the five porsches in one day. And if you didn't wanna watch five videos i understand. It seems like a lot of content. We put out seven videos and seven days leading up to christmas so we worked a lot And so i wrote some words it. It's some isn't it right on top. Oh it was the top story yesterday is it. Does it bump in bumped off the front lot up here really Spaghetti got bumped off the front page already. Boo drive stuff every day. I mean it was only two days ago. Two days in internet time you cross over of a friday and a christmas and a saturday we made. You made three videos in two days. You're you're arguing with yourself. Good point anyway. If you want to read some words. I think i think a piece came out very well. The m to cs is really really. This is the thing about the. Mtc us really good. They make you pay for it though they take out wait. They replace things with carbon Transmission tunnel hood roof mirrors There's a spoiler there's a splitter there's that's all the carbon is really lightweight wheels. There's optional ceramic brakes with which might test car had vaires adaptive suspension And as a full three motor. It's fucking four and forty five horsepower. So it's It's one hundred and eighty pounds lighter than the regular m than the competition Much hundred and eighty pounds lighter. That's pretty significant. It's pretty significant. Yup because there's been like lamborghinis passer like forty pounds different. Well there was one I forget which there was a wanna say it was a mclaren but it might not have been a mclaren. I mean the The m three lightweight from nick ninety five that was not that much rs. america also very very not that lightweight but One hundred eighty pounds is pretty good. And it's fucking lively but the big deal is the the adaptive suspension with the comfort mode. That makes it a lot less like bouncy which is good it's like a magnet system. Do you know not mag ride.