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Interview With Model, Actress, Dancer, Activist, Leyna Bloom
"So you're a dancer. A model an actor an activist. You were the cover model on. The sports illustrated swimsuit cover It's a famous pop cultural institution. But it's one that's historically been seen. I think in the mainstream through a straight male gaze and in this year's edition there was like an intentional effort to celebrate an inclusive spectrum of women. And i think i understand you shot it before you learn. You made the cover along with tennis player. Naomi osaka and rapper meghan stallion. But what were your hopes going into the shoot and what did you want to convey images. Well anything that i do sense. Being in these spaces of representation is fairly new to argos system. All around the world. I think for me. It has to be some type of cultural shift. Has the part of something that is not just based around vanity orc gluttony. It has to be something that has a message in yes. I have beaten suit on. Yes i'm in. My muslim informed bites what i stand for. And why i was chosen to be part of the issue and then be on the cover was because of what i wanna do with everything i do in the bible being In the past a lot of the models are beautiful. Yes what is a story what is fighting for. What are they really rooted and makes them who they are. And the reason why. I've gotten up to this. Point is not because meek just being beautiful. It's me fighting the system it's me. I'm being blacklisted. It's me saying no. I don't wanna do. This is saying it's not what you say. Yes you is what you say no to that builds character. So what we doing. And what i do with this issue is to invite people who think differently. And that's why i was session for a moment winning a transient on the cover. Because are every single. Day being brutalized murdered sexualize. Harass already has been thirty three on some of cases of trans women especially of color being murdered in america so when that is happening society is imperative in his responsibilities to have moments like
More Than 9,000 Anti-Asian Incidents Occurred in US Since Pandemic Began
"Despite months of out reach it appears that thousands of attacks against Asian Americans keep occurring in the U. S. the national groups stop A. A. P. I. hate says there've been more than nine thousand incidents from taunts to physical attacks in the U. S. since the pandemic began with people of Asian and Pacific Islander descent in some cases being treated as scapegoats for a virus first reported in China there have been countless social media campaigns training sessions and public rallies to try to counter the trend and president Biden signed the covert nineteen hate crimes act to expedite justice department reviews of anti Asian hate crimes still about forty five hundred incidents were reported last year and about the same number this year I am Jackie Quinn
They Call Us Seoul Sausage
"Hello and welcome to another edition of call us bruce unfiltered conversation about what's happening in asia. America i'm phil you and i'm jeff yang and we are here with some very special guests fresh from reality television and maybe a window serving delicious food near you. We're talking here to ted. Kim yong kim and on one of seoul sausage who competed just now in the great food truck race all-stars season and we'll talk a little bit about that finale which just happened What it was like being on on the all stars of this competition whereas like winning season three of that competition and just in general what. It's like to be trying to sell sausage or things other than sausage in a pretty rough environment for selling any kind of stuff right now. Welcome to the show guys It's so good to have you guys here as you guys know. I've been a fan and a supporter of sociologist Since before day one. I think yeah i knew guys before you guys didn't started in was a huge fan of season three and everything you've done of course have been a big consumer of your your wears a since then fan of your sausages know. I was wondering maybe we could start by. Maybe talking about 'cause 'cause when you guys compete in season three this season that you won you guys had never actually run as a food truck before and i'm kind of wondering like and we still don't know how to do can't jump into that like i i. I do starting this venture even before the food truck race. But what was the impetus to get started. Where you up the short story version or the long version cast on the show and you know We want a food. Truck aussies three so. It was never part of our plans. But here we are. You know We open our store and we have a truck and a and a store at the same time. So yeah that's how we started
Author Chat with Emiko Jean
"And we are here with emiko gene. The author of will never be apart impressive. All seasons and most recently tokyo ever after emiko so nice to have you on the podcast. Thank you for taking the time to speak with us. Thank you for having me today. Yeah congratulations on your recent book. Launch of my girlfriend has already re-regular. She read your book before. I even had a chance to receive your book. I think she's very excited. I'm talking to you right now. So we usually like to ask our authors like if they were always a writer if it's a passion that came later in life. I know that like i was looking at your bio earlier and it seems like you've juggled a lot of things in your past in your past life. You were an entomologist. You were a candle maker. You were a teacher. So how did you become a writer. Yeah so my road to writing and publication was really windy and long always been a really voracious reader. Remember getting stacks and stacks of books from the library on my mama. Take me there like every weekend. And i would get you back then. I think libraries have limited to now. But back then you. It was as much as you could carry over like rain. Myself down with books But i never really saw myself in any of the books that i read. I looking back now as i am. Kind of examining my adolescents. I i had never read a book. By japanese american author or even an asian american author. Add never read a book as a young person that featured in asian american protagonist And so i think that was really formative The clothes that pathway. So although i loved reading i never thought that i could be a writer
Interview With Actor, John Cho
"How's it going. thanks for. thanks for coming down. Thanks for doing this. Yeah john we were thrilled when you said yes. What was it about our podcast that made you wanna come on l. a. times. It's my hometown paper. Secondly i listened a lot of podcasts. I just become really interested in the medium. And then thirdly i was Few months ago. I was listening to divvy chang's podcast and he had I can't remember the guests now. But he's had a few asian americans on and when they got into culture was so unique. Or i realized it was very foreign to hear asian speaking to one another in media and i realized also called a buddy of mine and we who had the same reaction he was so excited to hear it and it wasn't anything explicit. It was just like the tone was different. I realized also at that moment. I've been talking about being asian my whole career to white people and i thought oh i have to make a concerted effort to talk about these things that come up To asian americans. And i i would like asian americans to hear that conversation. Well we're going to start out by talking about. I guess your childhood your life. Well so your family came to the us in the seventies you grew up in a bunch of places including like monterey park and went to school in glendale what was that. Like which component of that Growing up in monterey park. I did i was there very briefly as born in seoul was there till i was six years old and then came to houston texas went to elementary school in houston then the roaming started we went to. I think seattle daly city san jose monterey park We settled in glendale so the year. You kinda went off to college was was nineteen. Ninety-two right. ninety
Interview With Writer, Nicole Chung
"Thank you so much for joining us to call. Thank you tracy john. It's good to be here. Let's are at the beginning. You were born to korean immigrant parents. But you're adopted. As an infant into a white catholic family in a mostly white rural town in oregon. So how did you first start developing your own sense of identity. Sure sure so. I will say i lose the only korean that i really knew until i left home and it was formative and ways and at the same time. That's really hard to see when you're growing up there when you're in the midst of it when whiteness is just kind of the default around you as it was for me and did grow up in a very white area and it wasn't just like my family. It was my neighborhood. It was my school every school. I went to pretty much. you know. It was definitely the church we went to. It was one of those things where i definitely noticed from a young age. I noticed i didn't look like everyone and also like it was pointed out to me and like many different ways by different people. I will say that i. I don't think. I began really noticing a lot or feeling self conscious about it until i was old enough to go to school so my early years and how many of us has that many memories of our early childhood right but the memories i do have. It's like well of course. I knew that i was adopted. I don't remember being told so. I must have been told like around the time i was two or three. Is my gas like when i was actually verbal and i remember a few discussions like my. My main memory is asking my adopted mother. My mom likes to tell me the story of my adoption. And i would ask for this over and over when i was a kid and i remember like sitting in her lap and hearing the story and it never changed but growing up for me it was so impossible and honestly still isn't possible to separate like my asian my korean identity from my adoptee item. They are so bound together.
Author Chat With David Yoon
"Hey we're hearing with david author and guess now publisher dvd. I'll stick thanks for joining us on books and boba. Thanks for hopping looking forward to this. Yeah we are here to talk about what we're talking to david about all his great accomplishments but also about his newest book version zero But before he gets that we always like to start because this is a book club about asian american authors. We always like to hear how did you. How did you end up becoming an author like what was your journey as a writer was always something that was part of your life or something that you discovered later on. It's definitely it's. I mean i love this question. 'cause for me. It's definitely been something i've always wanted to do Ever since i was in third grade. I wrote a story in the class and they loved it. They're cracking up. And i was feeling and then a another story interested in it was crickets. Okay okay good feedback gonna try them better. And since then. My favorite classes have been english. I major was in english. I went to grad school for fiction. That's where i met Nikola wife Yeah and yeah and we learned about writing but we didn't learn about the publishing industry so we spent a lot of years just working our day jobs because they paid really well and writing in the mornings or at night and Really the are grad school contacts for members in college was the way we got to be agents and people like that was that was mainly networking. And the the more you write the more you can make your own luck. So when the agent when you friendly do need an agent now i will assume your stuff budgets to sean
Interview With Author, Jesse Q. Sutanto
"And we're here with jesse. Qc who tanto the author of dial a for aunties as well as the obsession. Welcome jesse were so excited to have you here on the show. I thank you so much for having me your full disclosure. We've been trying to make this interview happen for months. I feel like to who calling in from. Are you in singapore. No or carter. Indonesia jakarta so time zones are thing. Yeah well So just starting off. Jesse can you tell us a little bit about when you wanted to become a writer like was writing always something that was part of your life. i heard that it took you like eight manuscripts to get published like it was very long journey for you so if you could expand a little bit on that on my never ending saga yeah i mean i i. I've always loved and bucks. And i think it was around like ten years ago now actually longer than that I was like okay. I'm gonna get a master's in creative righty and my parents were like. Oh you should go to business school and outright ending yet right But they supported me anyway that they're wonderful and and so i did that and then it's a heck of a long time After graduating to even get like one book published so that was that was a really long and twist the during with lots and lots of rejections and for the longest time. I was kinda trying to find my voice. And i think around At that time we didn't really have like that diverse You know push for more diverse city. And so i was writing. I didn't think that you know publishing. Would once stories from people like me. And so for the longest time i was just kinda writing occasion characters and stuff like that. So i'm very grateful for all the authors who you-know-who kind of paved. The way for us
Interview With Musician, Thenmozhi Soundararajan
"We wanted to start by looking at your own journey. Navigating discrimination as an indian american woman. Your parents were delegates from a village in rural india. But you grew up in southern california after your family immigrated to the united states. Can you talk a bit about what your family's experience in india was like and why they chose to come here. I think that you know both of my parents really struggled with tremendous discrimination. My dad was one of the first people educated in his generation that was able to leave to the united states but to imagine the kind of terror that he went through like his village was constantly tortured by dominant caste people who in order to kind of keep the wages low would often come with machetes to make sure that people never got quite settled. The threat of violence was always Looming kind of crisis. That that just kept people kind of contained and when my dad went to medical school people were always trying to find out what is cast was and you know. He tried to keep quiet where he could and so he hid and so he just learned to create and perfect. You know how to be the invisible belet you know excel but never be present and be able to kind of like crack a joke that could disarm people but always keep up the shield to that people would never get to know you you know. My dad went by his initials his whole life so he went by t s s rogen. And i was like this is so embarrassing. You just like tell people what your real name is. And he was afraid because his real name would actually have revealed his cast background
The Silence of Bones by June Hur
"Eighteen hundred chosen korea homesick and sixteen year olds. Whole is living out the ancient curse. May you live in interesting times indentured to the police bureau. She's been tasked with assisting a well. Respected young inspector with the investigation into the politically charged. Murder of a noblewoman. As they delve deeper into the dead woman's secrets whole forms an unlikely bond of friendship with the inspector but her loyalty is tested when he becomes the prime suspect in may be the only one capable of discovering. What truly happened on the night of the murder. I will say before we get started. I'm going to do my best with the korean pronunciations. I i do not have native tongue rear this so i apologize in advance totally fine. 'cause like The thing. I don't know if you have the same trouble marvin but when you use the correct pronunciation with like an english sentence sometimes your tongue. Kind of does like gymnast. Ix and it's very hard to be consistent with the pronunciation because stiffer and it's also just proof of how globalization and colonization has like screwed with our mind. I know when i meet someone. Who's last name's lou. That lame extra khalil. But i still say lou because it's easier in my mind and it's just where we're we are living interesting times like I was thinking about this In terms of the legacy of colonization and howard like mess the world up and like we're all just dealing with the repercussions figuring how to how to best move forward right before we were recording. We were talking about romanisation complaining to marvin. Saying romanisation makes absolutely no sense when it comes to Phonetically spelling korean into english because english is best up and the pronunciation guide is. It's just ridiculous like half the time. I'm like this yawn or is this yoon when it's spelled. Y u n
Interview With Writer and Sociologist, Anthony Ocampo
"Thanks for joining us. Anthony thank you for having me. We just kind of want to start out by asking you a little bit about your background. There's been this kind of gap in filipino academic research. And and i think you're part of the sort of growing number of scholars that is focusing on the lived experiences of filipino. Americans can you tell us a little bit about your own childhood. And what motivated you to focus on filipino. Americans in your work. So i'm a son of immigrants. My parents migrated from the philippines in one thousand nine hundred eighty and then i was born shortly. Thereafter nineteen eighty-one and i grew up in a very robust filipino. American community so i i grew up most of my life in eagle rock which folks Me no has a significant number of filipino. American residents And i also like many filipinos in this country grew up with a very very large extended family that i spend a lot of time with it so most weekends were spent at like filipino. Social gatherings My parents house was the place where when new relatives were migrating from the philippines and getting settled in the us. They'd often stay with my parents for a number of weeks number of years in. So i just had a plethora of filipino reference points and then of course lake because of where i live the school that i went to also had a large number of filipinos in so i guess i've always had the opportunity to just observe how being filipino. American culture is in my everyday life from the food to the inner general dynamics to visits to the home country And that's that's i guess we're all interest started.
Interview With Author, Payal Doshi
"And we are here with pile. Doshi the author of ria and the blood of the nectar. We are so excited to have her on the show. Her her book is a middle grade fantasy adventure. And i'm pretty sure are indian american readers out. There are going to be very excited for this book. It's coming out on june fifteenth pale than so much for being with us today. Hi thank you so much for having me. I'm super excited to be here. Yeah congratulations on the launch of your book. How's it been like i. I saw on instagram stories. Your first unboxing of your the first like print feeling. Oh my gosh So surreal feel like this mixture of relief. Happiness disbelief I've lived with this book or about danielle's took me daniels to write this book. And then to me about two years to sell this book and then this whole last year has been you know a lot of everything just the general situation in the world and then at the same time it was all of these you know highs of book news like your cover coming out and seeing that for the first time and then you know get in your arc out people to read and then getting those are so many of those like insanely surreal moments but i nothing beats holding it in your hands. I feel like that's a before and after before bio and like the oft the book is it my hand. It was incredible. I was so nervous. You have all these imaginations and expectations. About what your would be like and then you hold it. I smell that we all do that. It's like the new book and like i. That's the quality of the paper and had a lovely like oh creamy yellow color. And like i was like all of those Bangle my own book so it was. It was awesome and even more excited for the launch in june. Because i know that it's you know it's a really good-looking book as well. That rita's will have and hold and hopefully love the story as well so it's very exciting. Very very exciting.
What AAPI Heritage Month Means to Ben's Chili Bowl's Sage Ali
"May is Asian, American and Pacific Islander Heritage Month, and we've been celebrating by checking in with recent guests about what this month means to them. This week, we caught up with Sage Ali, co owner of the iconic Washington D. C restaurant, Ben's Chili Bowl. Ali's father. The restaurant's namesake was from Trinidad and of Indian descent, and that was a big part of his identity. Growing up. We were raised Muslim My dad is, you know Muslims, so he's from India, Muslim, and so we even living in D C. We went to the mosque and the mosque was a largely Indian community. In fact, at one point do we went from the Islamic Center in Washington, D. C. To a Caribbean base mosque that was probably 90% Indian. So we were raised with I mean, we loved, you know, Roti and Curry and all of the Indian foods and The music and the culture in general, you know, and in fact, Vida my wife. She's also from Trinidad from the same community. Ali says it being black and Asian American gave him a rich cultural background to draw from it felt to me like Was a little bit lucky because I had a bigger world than most of my friends. Doesn't mean it's not like I just had a little bit more to draw from. You know when we went to Trinidad for a month, and there's my grandmother, and she's teaching us how to do the curry and the roadies and stuff every day and teaching us songs and or doing stuff. You was just a nice addition because it just added something. That's something included Indian films, which Ali says we're a big part of how his father connected to
Getting Ghosted and Rejected
"Talk about rejection because it's been my observation from a lot of different personal conversations. I've been privileged to have From my friends who trust me with their deepest darkest secrets to complete strangers. Who for some reason. Open up their deepest darkest secrets to me. Like in an uber driver or in a i know meeting just getting to know somebody. I've been really lucky And sometimes really overwhelmed and not knowing what to do with it but Been very at the end of day. I think really honored and and Fortunate for people to be so frank with me be very vulnerable with me and i know how much these encounters these everything from like your deepest truest love to like a one night stand to like just attempting to talk to somebody else and getting rejected like how much of a scar. That can leave or how much that can like. Change your entire outlook on life for yourself and it can be really tough to talk about publicly or even to just even like your friend or a person to say out loud. It's really personal. And so i thought that in light of it being asian pacific american heritage month and it also being mental health awareness month which i cared deeply passionately about that share some a in my opinion a pretty funny story at this point to reflect on all those elements combined so here we go garrity for one of my most embarassing moment. I still don't understand why. Keep this story. Keep kept creeping on me and i literally have had conversations like do i really need to share this on a podcast and it keeps coming up. So i'm aligning with my higher calling and gaden myself and here. We go so As i mentioned my first crush was bryant housing kindergarten. He was beautiful brown eyed sandy brown hair. He dressed up dracula in kindergarten for halloween. I was strawberry shortcake. It was adorable and he sat diagonal to me kindergarten glass and i remember he liked candy corn and i thought it was kinda gross and tasted like wax but i ate it because brian haas liked it so i wanted to have a connecting point of interest with him so i to eight candy corn.
Interview With Novelist, Min Jin Lee
"Thank you so much for joining us mention out. It's a pleasure to be here. Tracy and jen and Yes i do have a lotta side hustles. I don't know he do it. And the pandemic even very like on your hustle and very productive seems. Well i'm fifty two. And i'm the sole provider for my family so in a way. I think that i have my priorities. And also i'm a writer. The which means that i'm a freelancer. That's what it is so you kind of have to keep your game on. Well i think for me. This is the biggest question for all writers but why novels i feel like that's one of the hardest storytelling ways that is out there. It started out with a corporate lawyer. Just wine apples while. I'm a big reader so that is really the reason why i wanted to write a novel and has really for me very very difficult. I've only produced two in about thirty years. So i've had to have all these side hustles to basically pay for these things. Because i never wrote a book before on contract and that's really important to share because a lot of people think that you have an idea you contact the publisher and say hey. I want to write a book and it just doesn't work that way. So i wrote it on spec and of course in the film industry guys no i wrote the entire thing and i presented it to somebody and said hey can i get one representation. I'd even have an agent. When i wrote my first book and it took me about eleven years of this kind of beating my head against the wall. Why did i choose novels. Because i think novels can create an incredible world. That's really difficult to do any other media. So that's why i did it but for me. It was a very long struggle. I've met young very talented writers who can just pop out. And i think that's awesome. That was not me.
Interview With Rapper, Ruby Ibarra
"Thanks so much for joining us. Ruby johanna hi jan. Thank you so much for having me. it really is an honor for me to be in this conversation especially with asian american pacific islander heritage month coming up. I'm pretty sure you know the conversation that we're about to have is is gonna be relevant to what's been going on in this country. Yeah definitely. we're really excited to have you here. speaking of being asian american. You know you're known around the world as rapper rubio barra you know ruby bar in the belleek. Byron's that's the name of your band and so much of your music is centered on not just your philippine identity but this concept of being a and for listeners. Who don't know what that is. It's it's basically generally speaking of a filipino. Ex pat but there is this sort of larger obligation to feeling the need to give back to your home country or your family because you've left the country and sought out you know better economic opportunities and things like that but you came here when you were really young. At what point did you decide that this was something that you wanted to focus your music gone. And and what is being a buy into you. Those are really great questions to start for conversation to. I answer how. I got to the point in my artistry where i knew that i wanted to discuss or focus on you. Know my background and my heritage. My culture honestly. I don't think that really became a thought until my cirque ninety one album i think prior to that when i was making music a lot of it really involved just me trying to find my voice when we think about identity a lot of it really gets muddled and these thoughts of who am i and how. How do i belong in the space. That i'm in these her constant thoughts that i had in my head even as a young child. I never really felt that. I belonged in the us and at the same time. I never really felt that i belonged in the philippines because i grew up over here and so i think my journey in finding my voice. It's really started in college. I attended uc davis. And even though i majored in biochemistry i took it on myself to take classes that were outside of the scientists and one of them being asian american studies.
Interview With Mommy Legislator, State Senator Stephanie Chang
"Senator stephanie chain wall come to the model majority podcast today. thanks so much for having me. I'm excited to be here absolutely. We are very excited. Heavy on our show as well. We've been tracking your career for quite some time. You're serving as the state senator in michigan right now but i want to begin by starting from the very beginning. If we may to get you know a little about your personal background and even maybe find some clues as to why you are serving in public office today. So i love to hear about. Where did you grow up. How did you grow up and anything from that. Upbringing might have even triggered or contributed to you entering public service today. So i am the daughter of taiwanese-american immigrants who came to this country like so many others looking for better educational opportunity in my parents matches school. They met at the university of notre dame and moved to michigan when my dad found a job in the auto industry which is has is the thing that has brought most families to michigan and I grew up in canton. Which is about a half hour outside of detroit me and my sister mom and dad and we grew up one of the public schools there. I remember feeling very much like there. Were not a ton of asian americans. At the time. I remember going up there. I have think that was the only asian american girl in my class during pretty much almost all elementary school and then it really wasn't until high school that i started to learn more about asian american history through an asian american student group that was there and really had a strong mentor. Who was a teacher out. Who really sort of started to pull me into different leadership positions and encouraged me to learn more about my identity as a nation american and so I definitely think that growing up as daughter of immigrants and growing up in canton and getting that type of experience has certainly shaped to i. Am i definitely think that nobody of the values that my parents came to america believing in you know opportunity Is is something that as legislator that i try to fight for Constantly trying to stand up for our values
Analyzing the Latest Data on Anti-Asian Hate Crimes
"You so much for having me. So we'll talk about the rise in anti-asian hate crimes and incidents. We've seen the recent data that i've seen shows that during the year of pandemic i think this was. The data was taken between march of last year. In february of this year. There have been nearly four thousand incidents of hate crimes at least reported hate crimes in comparison to the previous year. Were there are twenty six hundred for the entire year. I don't know if those numbers are correct but that seems like a significant rise. Yeah since the start of the pandemic we have definitely seen from different sources that there has been an increase in reported incidents with Racial bias against asian americans. But there's also a difference in in gender right in the way that women experienced these hate crimes and incidents versus the way that men are experiencing them. And i want you to parse you some of that data for me because one of the things that i had read in this appropriately wrong and i think there's why there's gulf in how the media is reporting the incident with the data actually says but is it not true that women are experiencing or at least a reporting more incidents than men can parsi data. Sure yeah this. Is i think an important point in the current moment of how we understand both race and gender and the violence that is associated with both so we know that the atlanta shootings in march that that was a white gunman who opened fire on a on an asian owned spa and or asian on spas and that violence was for sure a function of both race of the women's national origin and gender. Those women were in that position because of their gender you know occupations and they were also economically vulnerable. What we're seeing in the
Interview With Elise Go, Singer, Songwriter
"This episode is least go. She's in la based singer. Songwriter and i would also say fantastic producer. You the triple threat girl. I always prepare every guest by reading their books listening to their music waiting through their poetry. And sometimes it's not my thing. But i do it because i want to be prepared. I have been marinating in a least goes music this week. As i've been editing photos for hours and hours. And i want to say at least you really bring all these amazing gifts together and i can't wait for our audience to sample some of your wear. So welcome to the five cast. I can think you so much for having me hello listeners. What's up well you are not from. La in fact. I watched a little bit of your youtube video. Twenty eighteen when you and your mom your piled into the previous for the free is right to make that journey so tell us a little bit about your back story so we can kind of appreciate how you've landed in l. a. as this amazing berkley. School of music graduate talent were awesome So when i was little. I started pointing seattle when i was four. So music has always been in my life and me and my mom are very very close race by single mom so that comes with its own hardships. But she always found time to you know she. I i see now as an adult looking back ever since i was younger. She always made sure. I had all the opportunities that i could to explore extracurriculars to see what i was passionate about to help. Find that passion. So i started playing piano on os for the classical music for really long time and then progressed to really liking to sing. And i always bring up the lizzie mcguire movie. I watched that with my daughter. That's too cute. Dreams are yes that is exactly thong on ironically. Got me into pop music.
How to Pronounce Knife by Souvankham Thammavongsa
"Stories that make up how to pronounce focus on character struggling to find their bearings in unfamiliar territory or shuttling between idioms cultures and values a failed boxer discovers what it truly means to be a champion when he starts painting nails at his sister salon. A young woman tries to discern the invisible immutable. Social hierarchies at a chicken processing plant. A mother coaches her daughter in the challenging art of worm harvesting in todd. Visceral pro style. That establishes her as one of the most striking and assured voices of her generation. Tonka interrogates what it means to make a living to work and to create meaning so at the top like this is a story. A collection of stories about the lao refugee diaspora and laos is a country is adjacent to vietnam. But it's southeast asian like block. That wasn't solved the the vietnam war and because of that were the source of a lot of refugees along with vietnam. Cambodia that came from that area in the seventy s sixty seventies. Yeah it was like The sixties and seventies laos is the only landlocked country in southeast asia. Like you said it. Borders vietnam also borders thailand and is also the most heavily bombed country in all of history in terms of country size and population and most of that is from americans and a lot of the bombs that were dropped. Not all of them have detonated so every year. There is a lot of casualties from these from these bombs. So yeah western colonization and meddling has definitely you. I don't know what else to say.
Outgrowing People Pleasing With Kevyn Fong
"Guys. Oh my god jim so. I don't think there's anybody more excited than i am. Because i freaking love you let me just say right. I loved you the most i love you. So how are you doing today. Pretty good actually got to workouts in been very very focused on work and despite the weather being what it is right now. I'm very blessed and happy to stop took. I took a walk. And i'm like good girl. I walk to the fridge. And then i was saying i mean your workouts have been very inspiring which is why i'm so excited to talk to you because we're talking about transformation here right. Oh you better stop. I'm still in the middle we're ongoing. We're we're ongoing work in progress monitoring very excited about it. Well okay so to get situated. It's been really fun having so many awesome guests on first of all and because not everybody tuning in may of heard your incredible episode with me earlier which was like another lifetime ago or he talked about your coming out story right and just everything that made you who you are. How would you. How'd you do your little elevator. Pitch of like what's kevin long story and like a may life story treat tiktok tiktok on animate tiktok. I know. I guess. I am a military brat. Half chinese half filipino. Filmmaker turned digital content creator that focuses a lot on talent management. And that's where i've been. I've been in la for the last ten years. And i think now. I'm like really learning to just help others so i can also help myself.
Biracial Identity With Actress Jade Ma
"Jade ma welcome to the model majority podcast today. Thanks for having me here all right so we have a lot to talk about. Get into your current acting projects and also talk about some current affairs. If you will. But i want to start with your personal background a little bit so people know. Get to know a little bit about you as a person love to hear. Where did you grow up in of. How did you grow up. So i was born and raised in hong kong to british father and chinese mall and Yeah i lived there for seventeen years until i moved to the uk for university there for five years and then moved out to canada. Okay and a what was it like growing up by racially but also a hopping around different places in the world. You know growing up in a very different societies and cultures was really interesting so growing up in hong kong. I found myself in this place. Where because i was mixed. I wasn't quite enough of either to be considered part of either community. So i in asian enough for the local chinese community. But i wasn't wide enough to be part of the white exit community. Luckily for me there is a fairly large community of mixed people in hong kong. Do just like international nature of the city. So i still like grew up around quite a few people who were like me Moving to the uk. That was immediately like berry different. I was immediately viewed as chinese rather than as mix just. Because i know present quite chinese to most people Especially if they haven't been around many biracial like chinese mixed people right So when i moved k. That became quite a big part of my identity to other people
Interview With Mia P. Manansala, Author
"And we are here with author. Mia p monot sala the author of arsenic adobo. She is also the winner of the twenty eighteen. Hugh colton award and the two thousand eighteen. Eleanor taylor bland. Crime fiction writers of color award. Welcome thanks for having me. It's always great to bring award winning for unpublished. But yes good. I mean it still counts. Still mary impressive award winning author. I mean like those awards are for my now soon to debut novel. So i guess you're right accounts it can cam nine like in publishing. You need to celebrate every little thing. So you're right you're right so how are you doing. How's how's covert publishing life going for you. What my book cut like as of this recording my book comes out in three weeks. So it's that weird thing of like. I've been waiting over a year for this to happen and now that it's starting to happen. I'm like oh no what like like people are going to be reading my words and and having opinions and oh you know. It's a weird super exciting and super scary time right now. Your your book is a book of the month choice. And that's like that's a pretty big deal too so congratulations. i think. I think that's also was kind of adding to this weird like inbetween feeling because i see my book like on instagram. People are tagging me and photos but it hasn't officially released. So i'm like is this real like. Is this actually happening. It's called marking. It's called marketing. Not a lot of authors. Get it but you're very lucky. Your book definitely deserves it. Because i had so much fun reading it.
Interview With William Hung, Former American Idol Contestant
"When we started this podcast in two thousand fifteen i compiled a list of what i call the white wales and these were guest that i hope to book someday. People like george decay and margaret show and sonar so forth. And we've actually had margaret and george decay on but one of the white. Whales did eluded me until this very moment is my guest. This episode william hung william. I want to welcome you to our show. Highly meet you oswal for some of our listeners. May have heard of some of these other people that i just mentioned. But maybe they're not familiar with you and and let me just briefly. Explain to the audience. Why you were on my must book on this back. When i wasn't even watching american idol. So this is i think. Season three of american idol. Early in two thousand four. You auditioned and i heard about the audition so not even watching the show. Your audition actually kind of went by role and it sets up the next seven years of your life and then even what you've kind of transition to so. Could you give our audience in idea about what led to the audition san francisco for american idol. And then what happened there. And then we'll talk about the next part sir. So i always enjoyed carry your in my life. I started singing karaoke. Gave the my parents. I was tenuous on the back in hong kong and then in college i studied at uc. Berkeley i studied zimmer engineering I wasn't doing at school. So i thought i needed to try something new then one day. I thought his poster for a school talent show. And i thought watching and studying the music videos from ricky martin's she bangs
What's With The Rash Of Asian Hate?
"All right. You know this is to kansas is exciting to be back online with ya. and cash ken beached white male. Podcast asian american podcast with ken. Fog were together. I love this and you know last time we did this. Can we talked about the targeting of asian americans in this culture. And i mean it was six days after we posted that podcasts that we had this amazing shooting. Remember that podcast can. Oh yeah yeah. In fact everything was so schmooze together when you reminded me that we had recorded that less than a week before this atrocity happened. I had a double check. And i i found myself when i heard this story. I thought oh my gosh. This is terrible because this guy robert aaron long went to at least two asian massage parlors and he walked in he just started a start taking people out and these these girls in in those massage parlors are dead and i and i thought. Gosh we're talking about asians being targeted and here it is. The number was three asian owned massage. Parlours yeah and and In one of them they were not girls to them were in their seventies one was in sixties and what was in her fifties. Oh my god right so it. Just kind of blows up a lot of the horrible memes Incentivizing around asian american women that the young nubile sex workers. As i know these were. May i think hard working wage elderly eh. asian women trying to do what they could to help support their families. Yes and and so. Many issues came out of that story just about the. you know. Sexualizing as women. You know and but then it turns out that this guy tells the people that arrested him that he had a sex addiction. You know as though that was the motive in the cause of these shootings and then the police officer gets on the microphone and he says Yes the the individual committed this crime Admitted to having sex addiction and you know he had a bad day.
Girls of Paper and Fire by Natasha Ngan
"This is also your standard spoiler warning We are going to talk about. The entirety of girls have paper and wire including plot points and revelations about the climax and twists. So if you have not read the book and you do plan to. This is where you should pause our podcast and comeback after you finish the book and with that said. Let's get to it rewrite. Can you start off with the book. Jacket description each year. Eight beautiful girls chosen as paper girls to serve the king. It's the highest honor. They could hope for and the most demeaning this year. There's a ninth and instead of paper. She's made a fire in this richly. Developed fantasy lay is a member of the paper cast the lowest and most persecuted class of people in kara. She lives in a remote village with her father where the decade old trauma of watching her mother snatched by royal guards for an unknown fate. Still haunt sir. Now the guards are back and this time it's lay thereafter. The girl with the golden is rumored. Beauty has peaked. The kings interest over weeks of training in the opulent but oppressive palace. Lay an eight other. Girls learned the skills and charms that befit kings concert there. She does the unthinkable. she falls in love. Her forbidden romance becomes enmeshed with an explosive plot that threatens her world entire way of life lay still the wide eyed country girl at heart must decide how far she's willing to go for justice and revenge. So this book is an asian themed fantasy a more specifically southeast asian and chinese fantasy. It's an imperial court
Living & Processing #StopAsianHate
"Hey guys welcome to first of all a real unfiltered conversation on career family relationships and culture. Ivanhoe's mingy chang. I'm an actor producer and entrepreneur. And i'm here to share inspiring stories and go through everyday life with you Right off the top. I don't know how inspiring this week's episode is going to be but it definitely is with the intention to walk through life with you because it has been a moment a really tough moment for a lot of folks at least in my universe and for myself to go through and with the full mission of what first of all was from. The very beginnings from his birth was to be space for asian american voices for female voices. And there's a lot to unpack with. What happened this past week. And what's been happening in the asian american community so to get everybody up to speed. If you're new to first of all how is first time tuning in this. Podcast has been an exploration in a place where my experience in the the friends of mine. My universe can talk a lot of different elements of who we are as people whether that's racer or sexuality or geography or whatever. We all have a really diverse background. We're all unique individuals human beings and i'm fascinated by that and i wanted the space to be a place where we can share all those things talk through some things process and things learn and This last year. There's been a huge surge in anti-asian violence This the last administration. The trump administration had been kind of setting the stage in Provoking and planting a lot of hateful hateful rhetoric a lot of hateful attitudes and discriminatory Perspectives and viewpoints. Really like empowering a lot of people that are bigoted and zena phobic and it's been really scary time But in terms of the hate crimes that have been happening. The violence That has been surging. I think we're almost like four thousand hate crimes in the last year It's been a lot for folks to deal with and with what happened in atlanta and knowing the fact that a lot of the people that tune in for first of all are a lot of asian americans asian diaspora a lot of women. Female identifying folks. i just i. My my wish was to create a space for us to to kind of grieve together and process and to learn again all the original intentions of this podcast because there is a lot to unpack here. It's not just pain but that pain is coming from a shared experience of being largely invisible being discriminated against being a being a you know attacked and mistreated and dehumanized in so many different forms. That it's something that's been cracked open in this moment.
Combatting Anti-Asian Racism in Fashion
"Hi this is imran ahmed and ceo of the business of fashion. Welcome to the podcast. It's friday march twenty. Sixth last june former us president donald trump began using racist language to describe the novel corona virus. That by that point had already killed half a million people. There's never been anything with so many names. I could give you one thousand nine hundred twenty names for that right. It's got all different names. Wuhan wuhan swiss catching on corona virus. Right kong flu suv hate crimes against asian-americans began to rise racism in the time of pandemic. young woman. Wearing a mask is attacked in the subway station sanitizing. An elderly woman is chased by a bully trying to squirt hand sanitizer on her time. Man in san francisco who had just gotten his kobe. nineteen vaccine. how celebrated his birthday a father a grandfather walking on the sidewalk. In broad daylight surveillance camera captured his attacker crossing the street shoving him to the ground. He never regained consciousness. During twenty twenty reported attacks against asian americans were up more than one hundred fifty percent in the united states. Many others went on reported and the world looked on in horror last week as the attacks against as merican escalated when a shooter killed eight people in atlanta georgia including seven asian americans. Six of whom were women. But anti asian sentiment is not new in the us it goes back to the eighteen hundreds when chinese laborers i arrived to work on the railroads and in the coal mines official government policy at the time systematically discriminated against asians and this is not an issue limited to the united states around the world asians face overt and covert discrimination over the last few months. Asian fashion industry professionals have been organizing speaking up raising money and awareness about this urgent problem and they have been sharing painful experiences of discrimination within the inner workings of fashion this week. On the beauty of podcasts. I spoke to three leaders from the fashion industry. The designer phillip lim the editor in chief of law magazine michelle lee and the journalists suzanne allow to listen to their personal stories learn from their experiences and understand how we can be better allies in the fight against asian. Hate
Prabal Gurung Discusses the Importance of #StopAsianHate
"Morning vogue. Thank you all so much for joining today. I am here with pro garang. He is a designer who i have been following since all lows his very first presentation and i went back and counted. I've reviewed you forty one times. Can you believe that you just east us completely plaque notes. Okay but i never. I see light nunu all my life you know. I mean ears a dozen years. At least the news will buy. yes anyways. Thank you again for being here. I want to start by talking about the the collection. I just reviewed that you just showed during new york fashion week fall. Twenty twenty one. You called it a love letter to new york. And i wanna know why you called it that well. New york is a city that i love of. It's the city that i found myself when i came here. Two years ago. you know after travelling singapore and all india australia in everywhere. I never been to america when i came here. I literally fell in love immediately. The day i arrived. Because i was also very much charmed romanticized by the idea of what new represented. The new yorkers represented defiant impossible dreamers misfits and also. It is in this summer. This is the city that again amid the pandemic and uncertainty that i found myself again. You know Collection was inspired by my summer spent in new york city and the i would say the revolution of self expression and unity that i saw all over as i am. Can i live near. Washington's my house faces broadway all the marches of protests that i see and i started to attend marches protests and vigils for blacklivesmatter latte transects matter. I saw communities all throughout the city. Rallying together to express themselves and to support one another.
Leaving Your Comfort Zone With Helen Wu Of Asian Boss Girl
"St helen. My darling are you your save time. Yeah we've got cousy by going eighth grade next week. So i'm ready for this. You're all said. I actually grabbed a pillow to while you grabbed one. I was like well. I have one year to might as well get comfy. It has been a year We're almost a year now. actually. I think arms. That's coming out at pretty much like the year. Marker can you believe us yeah of quarantine yes all of your what but yeah i am sorry. That's like all that occupies my mind still girl. Have you been recording so much that the student come up at the end of the year. I've not on that. I'm working on it But congratulations like this is the first time you've been on my show which i'm so excited because i know that you've been very busy and gone fulltime with asian girl and like all of that. It's amazing and i want to dive into all of that. Because when we last each other in person of those allies that we've bumped into each other since then but like we got like sit down and really talk. That was like at a off the mike event which was like lifetimes ago. Yeah yeah yeah. so how's it. it's i mean. Yeah that's been a long time ago. it's been good. I guess relatively good. It has been busy but you know with the whole. Kobe thing staying at home not being friends. I think miami someone who is a little bit more extroverted But i think. I'm going to be more introverted. Now with the the whole pandemic thing like i don't mind being home. I didn't hold dry. January and i was completely fine. I think it's mostly like the fomo aspect of it when you know you are at a party and you're not participating that's when the i struggle i've been doing okay with all of that you know since everybody's they're stuck in their corners. It's like it's actually. Yeah yeah yes january. I've never done that before thirty days of of just no alcohol and it feels good to be able to wake up early on a saturday and get shit done. Wow i'm totally random aside. I've noticed that. Friday nights. I go to sleep the earliest. Is that just me you like. I don't know why. Brian nights a few like just like mesh than with every other day of the week. I can't tell when it's a friday. I don't know got it. I was just like why is it. Why do i stay until like two. Am on tuesday. Wednesday whatever right and then. Friday night kicks around in like it's nine o'clock. I'm going to bed because you're tired if you've been sleeping at two. Am all the other days. You're tired by broadening sense. It's just the irony of like the one night that i mike. I can do whatever i want. Only old lady by the crane. I feel you on that. I've been on for a long time. It's nothing new. It's nothing now. But yeah okay. So i i know that there. There's a lot of listeners. Actually i found out that People listen to both of our podcast which is really exciting. And i've definitely intro you and job. 'cause i love doing that for all my guests. I'm everyone's hype woman Because i love all of you guys but how would you. What do you have like your elevator pitch down and before you actually give it. I wanna to do the caveat because you did a a new twenty twenty one episode with a b g that i happened to stumble upon. I was catching up on you guys ever and you mentioned in like your intentions for the year that you are like down to be another people show in that you had a lot of this Like discomfort with public speaking in your life coming to terms without amazing so i was Putting on this. And i'm putting that out there as i'm fully aware of that but i'm really proud of you. I think it's awesome. I'm curious like have you been working on your elevator pitch and like how you would intro your soft on being on another person's show oh man mintier. I'm like that i'm here. I i know. I know i know i do feel very comfortable on. Here's the thank you so much for being being such an amazing person in a hype woman. I really appreciate that But yeah i mean. I did mention this on our podcast. My elevator pitch for myself or for. Abd or yourself. Okay so my name. Is helen wu or now lou. Yes yes i. I am engaged though. I do plan to change my last name and keep my woo as part of my middle name so i will be helen. It's funny because my middle name is also my chinese name so the way in chinese is suna but going to spell it is s. e. e. y. a. h. cea wa. okay. It's gonna be helen via wu wang.
Leading during COVID-19 with Ellen Kamei
"Ellen kamei. Welcome back to the majority podcast today. Thanks for having me back kevin. Of course you were one of my very favorite guests ever but you were here on our podcast back in march twenty eighteen which feels like roughly twenty years ago since then a lot has happened to you. A lot has happened in the world. I want to start with you first a sense that you ran for a seat in the city council of mountain view. Which where you were born where you're from you while your seat. And now you're the mayor of mountain view and just a quick plug for your city. My personal way of characterizing mountainview is the most important small city in the world. Because you have these incredibly monumental companies like google like other institutions intact headquartered there so everybody knows where mountain view is the world and i love to hear first of all about. What was your experience like. We're running in a local election. Really going through the grind and now transitioning to serving on a city government. Well thanks so much again. Kevin for having me back. I couldn't sell my city better than you just. Did you know the way i describe. A mountain view is being in the heart of silicon valley so much of the tech innovation about we discuss now actually was bursting in the city of mountain view Matthew mentioned yes. I iran in twenty eighteen in one actually wasn't my first time running for for office for city council mountain view. I run in twenty fourteen loss and really had to make the decision about you. Know did i want to pursue my passion for public service or or not and four years later decided to to run again Happy to share a In got to move from being on the planning commission to a member of the city council so the transition to city council. I mean there's no other to describe it in fast and furious in my first year. We were discussing the really large policy issues that our city our state i think our country are grappling with which are you know housing affordability of that housing in the generation of housing transportation rates. Getting people to shift their mode of a transit instead of being car. Ranted and gino at the same time. How are we providing the best quality of life possible for all our residents so within the first year we're tackling those going into my second year became vice mayor and two months later we had a global pandemic. And and now you know as mayor. I am trying to navigate our city our community our residents To the light at the end of the tunnel of the pandemic so it has been you know legislating on the toughest issues and dealing with something we only typically have to deal with like once century pandemic straight. There are a couple of things fall on the first thing. I want to drill in and a little bit. More is actually the experience of right so a lot of what we do here on the modern majority podcast is to reach out to asia. Americans are the minority communities to build allah ship. But you really transfer know how i think knowledge about. What is it like to be a public servant. If that's what you wanna do what is it like to run an office. You rent twice. You say you lost the first time you won the second time as in like you came. I believe the first out of like six seven other people right and i think the merger victor is also pretty significant. I remember that night and like checking the whole county original bula alad crush everybody. I was very happy about that. But how did that happen. You think now you have a couple of years removed to maybe reflect that experience. What did you do right. The second time that you didn't quite do the first time that led you to your victory while i would say it's two different things. One is a took those four years. But i also took that you know that year of running Invested in myself which is really trying to build. The skill sets necessary to to run again. So i signed up for work through the public speaking coach and i had taken you know. I did feature debate in high school and took public speaking in grad school but being able to speak Forums for sixty seconds or less than being able to adequate we express who you are the candidate. Your policy ideas in under a minute is really tough so i would say that. That was pretty instrumental in being able to formulate a good communication plan. And then the other is. I got some time off of work so i went from fulltime work. Two part time works. That could really get knocking on those doors because they knew that having that face to face interaction is still key to winning a local election so those are the kind of two things they did to invest in myself which is like make the the true commitment to to running giving everything i could and then the other was i would say really committing to the residents and and that is to say you know having his door to door conversations but also trying to meet people where they are which is really trying to be on every social media platform really trying to. You'll be out there in other languages as well as a multi-lingual Being able to have forums where people could ask questions. In their native language i think created inaccessibility. That hadn't been there before over. Thirty percent of our population in the city of mountain view identifies as asia and so that really competed opportunity for me to reach out to the asian american community to make sure that their voice was being heard and twenty teen. I think that there was a lot of policy issues. That were happening both nationally locally. Where the i could see that. Api community getting engaged. In a way that i hadn't seen before
Sharon Kwon Addresses Asians Being Overlooked IN America
"My guest today is sharon kwan. She's a psychotherapist. For asian american bi coastal and immigrant individuals and families struggling with racial trauma and identity at yellow chair collective. She's also a psychiatric social worker at an la county. Department of mental health contracted nonprofit agency serving foster families and youth. And the reason why. I invited sharon to rush to the microphone and And come out on. This episode is because she recently wrote a piece for huffington post about what a lot of people don't understand or appreciate about what. It's like being an asian in america in twenty twenty one and that piece that she has written has really gone viral. I posted it. A number of my Facebook friends have shared it on their walls and a number of them have said sharon has expressed what i been feeling lay entire life but didn't know how to put into words. So that's a pretty grand introduction for ucla that at your relatively young age that you have been able to put your finger on something that a lot of us. Asian americans feel. But we don't know harder articulate. So i want to welcome you to our show. Thank you so much. I feel honored to be here. I want to begin by you sharing the story that you start off your peace with and we'll see where it goes from there so tell us this story so my friends and i. We got recalled an uber to go to a laker game. And we're a pretty diverse group. You know is very reflective of the diversity of los angeles and immediately when we got in the car. The driver asked us all where we're from and it was very casual and we were all just like you know around here. But then he singled me out. He said a weight but not you. And he pointed to my eyes and did the whole like slanty. I think yeah which again i have been. I've received that so many times throughout my life and it was just the similar feelings of discomfort and just like why this again and then he says you know not you. You're not from here. Where are you really from. Which i feel like is a question that a lot of asian americans identify with as just like by asking that question. It automatically asserts that you're not from here in the circles that i run in That's called being a perpetual foreigner. Right i mean you were born in great came here at three years old. My grandparents came in the early part of the twentieth century. Okay so i. My parents were born here like i only have one language english. My dad fought in world war. Two and yet. I still get asked that question right. And for those who aren't asian american. Who are listening. This is what sharon and i are talking about. Is this no matter how long you've been here no matter how american you are because we don't look anything close to white Then we're always going to be seen as you're not really a true america. You're not really from here. So where you from. Because of this i have spent so much of my time here. Just trying to prove to everyone and myself that i am american. It's led to some inevitable whitewashing inevitable assimilation that. You know. I'm not proud of. But i also feel like i had no choice. I wanted to fit in. I wanted to be seen as an american. But got to the point. Where i realized wow no matter what i do no matter how perfect. My english is no matter how you know that. Been to school here. My entire life like no matter all of this. No matter who my friends are people are always going to see me as
Dealing With Uncertainty With Kulap Vilaysack
"Abandoning trash. I'm really really thrilled. Because go to make a unlike a ways through this podcast but you've honestly been on my list like a dream guests for a long time. Yeah accessible to you yes. We are all very busy. And for a lot of amazing reasons which i would love to like dive into because your career honestly i mean in my direct circle of of humans that i know like i truly admire and want to emulate your path really. Yeah oh that's very here especially when like last you know now. Three four years. I just haven't been able to like do the next thing. Things haven't worked out so really feel that way because you know maybe there's hope for me yet i will. I'm going to go off my vibes. I think i think i can't see anything not going for. Its ultimate highs. Good with you. I think my god in your mouth to the university. I'm channeling okay. And i'm putting it out there because i don't know it's just something about when got to meet you and then spend more time with you in our eight-plus group which i wanna get into a little bit in our in our shot but just like honestly like having witnessed what you've been able to do with like gazillion dollar properties in link and acting in like your ability to adapt and like your openness and the now your podcast like i'm basically prefacing this entire conversation right right up front yellow billboard a baby we're billboard out of this but it's just honestly there's a lot that kind of come up in my in my podcast that i don't even know how i got here because i thought it was like if i do. Ten episodes were good but like a big theme. That's emerged out of a lot of these conversations. The the the value of persistence and the ability to be resilient and pivot. And just keep going you know f. It's like completely like. I don't know what the hell is happening right now. Where we're just gonna go with. Yeah so i mean you do that to me. That's like the vibe. I get from you and just a lot of like joy and positivity and like let's handle us well for some. I think it's a it's a. it's a add. Certainly been around folks. have career trajectories have skyrocketed. It by the way all those people are hard workers with like with ability and Material to like take them up there But for me it's more of a long game. It's a steady you know. Isn't it for all of us. Seen folks they do you know and that is that is they're weighing in. It's you know it's part of my by doing is an end discipline is just. It's not mine. You're not my way and they are things you can't change for sure. That's the okay. I'm recognizing i would love to know how you've been navigating twenty the the joy that was twenty twenty I mean you know navigating you know if you know if there's just a boat that's not sinking but it's still as humanly possible makes it sound like there's like you know we're heading. We're on our way general floating. Yeah mine is more just sort of like a rafts that has not sell. No ores getting imagery right now. There's a point where the tide get really rough and you're like i got nothing man just going to end up where we end up was really boring if again not be ocean. Oh i should be clear. It's not the ocean we're body daughter. Is this what did this. Euro said health anytime. I laugh off after last year's been like i'm digging man. I'm digging. i'm digging up old. Sean spicer melissa mccarthy videos too like spark showing who i really do i really
Fighting Invisibility And Speaking Up With Bryan Pham And Maggie Chui
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